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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
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Honestly.... it's a tough cut, but I wouldn't mind cutting the full on switch or the D20 boost to make his fall have an actual impact on the Turtles. Quote:
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~Lazy Orang, keeping you guessing. |
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
Reading from my phone, but it looks like Phoenix and Beast teamed up and were both attacking Splinter for three turns in order to put him down? That sounds like pretty solid survivability to me.
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
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I'll try running him against a Foot Clan build, though, probably on Thursday. |
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
He might not have been particularly flashy, but the X-Men spent the equivalent of a full round trying to take him out, and he put out 3 wounds on his defense in the process. It's a pretty solid performance for a guy who wasn't taking a lot of turns. I don't think it's so thematically wrong for Splinter to have a significant-but-subtle influence on a match either. I'd give him another game or two before changing anything.
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
Army Test 2
Map: Sewer Labyrinth (Because I had to...) (No Glyphs) Armies; Master Splinter (230), Leonardo, Raphael, Donatello, Michelangelo (930 points) vs. Shredder, Kirigi, Ubu, Foot Clan Ninja, 3x Hand Ninja (940 points)
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Spoiler Alert!
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#126
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
This confuses me:
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Or am I misunderstanding Breaking Balance? |
#127
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
AH, I forgot you need to roll more skulls than shields. I thought it was not the same number of skulls and shields.
I like the proposed changes BTW. |
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
I'm glad you played him vs. the Foot, as it does point out a big flaw to the passed version of Father's Devotion. I agree it makes it much useful and should be changed. I'm just not sure I agree with the new version either. Basically if goes from the Foot being the perfect counter to Splinter to Splinter completely owning the Foot as every time they score a 3 skull hit (which should be a good thing), Splinter jumps in and auto kills them via Breaking Balance. I don't think the Foot player should be hoping not to roll 3+ skulls anytime they are in the general vicinity of Splinter. They already don't want to attack Splinter directly, not letting them attack the Turtles as well makes them not worth much.
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#130
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
Okay, if no one objects, I'd like to try out this version vs the Foot next week:
MASTER SPLINTER RODENT UNIQUE HERO SENSEI WISE MEDIUM 4 4 LIFE MOVE 6 RANGE 1 ATTACK 4 DEFENCE 6 WISDOM OF THE RAT Once per round, when an Order Marker is removed from any Ninja Army Card you control, you may immediately place that Order Marker on this army card or any Ninja Army Card you control. When you roll the 20-sided die for a Ninja you control, you may add or subtract 1 from the roll. FATHER'S DEVOTION Once per turn, whenever an opponent’s figure targets a Ninja Turtle you control within 3 spaces of Master Splinter for an attack, if they roll 3 or more skulls, you may, if possible, switch Master Splinter with the defending Turtle. Master Splinter is the new target of the attack. Switched figures will not take leaving engagement attacks. If Master Splinter is destroyed, all Ninja Turtles you control add one to their attack and subtract one from their defence. BREAKING BALANCE When an adjacent opponent's figure rolls attack dice for a normal attack against Master Splinter, or rolls defense dice against an attack from Master Splinter, if they roll more skulls than shields, you may add one automatic shield to Splinter's roll and if Master Splinter is not destroyed, that figure receives a wound. ******************** The change in Life and Defence is because I've been thinking, and I reckon really playing up his reflexes at the expense of his constitution is more fitting for the character. |
#132
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Re: The Book of Master Splinter - Initial Playtesting
I don't want you to be eternally disappointed with how Splinter ends up, we already lost Tornado for a few years over how he feels about Judge Dredd & Judge Death and as a result I have tried to not get to overly involved with other's passion projects as a result, but I'm not really excited about this latest direction you have gone in.
As others have repeatedly said, it seems as though you are stuffing multiple cards worth of powers and themes all into one card and that isn't working for me. By my count he has 8 distinct major and minor powers/effects going on in the one card. With 700+ C3G cards now created I'm certain you can scour the books and find other cards that appear to have 8+ different effects on one card, the specific number isn't all that relevant here it is now messy and disjointed this design presents those 8 different powers/themes. I've also previously voiced a lack of enthusiasm for 6 def., that doesn't just make him better in melee fights but also better vs. ranged and AoE attacks. The news isn't all bad as the 6 move makes a lot of sense to me, rats are pretty quick so a humanoid rat ninja certainly qualifies as above average speed. I can't in good faith vote yea on the above card, if I'm the only one who feels that way I'll just abstain and stay out of it, however based on previous comments I suspect you may have trouble getting the other 4 heroes to vote yea. I wouldn't give up on the design in frustration though, just maybe take a step back and ask yourself what is your priorities for the design then come back at it with a more focused approach. |
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