The Book of Scorpion (Hanzo Hasashi)

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Ronin

I could run a couple more games with changes tomorrow or Wednesday.

Thanks, chap!

Originally Posted by Tornado

A win with Death is impressive. Though that was a favorable matchup for the Undead.

Yeah, Death's actually pretty good when preying on squaddies, particularly stronger ones (LexCorp would hate him). It's just heroes he's toothless against.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

Thanks, chap!

Gonna do the Yakuza first, but then I'll circle back to Scorpion, unless someone else has the time to hit him before tomorrow afternoon.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Gonna do the Yakuza first, but then I'll circle back to Scorpion, unless someone else has the time to hit him before tomorrow afternoon.

Thanks, again, sirrah! This is what I reckon I'm looking at:


NAME - SCORPION
SECRET IDENTITY - HANZO HASASHI

SPECIES - UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS - UNIQUE HERO
CLASS - NINJA
PERSONALITY - VENGEFUL
SIZE/HEIGHT - MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 210

"GET OVER HERE!"
After moving and before attacking with Scorpion, if Scorpion is unengaged, you may choose one small or medium non-adjacent figure within 4 clear sight spaces whose base is no more than 8 levels above Scorpion's height or 8 levels below Scorpion's base. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 13 or higher, the figure receives one wound and you may place the chosen figure on an empty space adjacent to Scorpion. The first time you attack that figure this turn, add 1 skull to your attack roll. Figures placed by "Get Over Here!" do not take leaving engagement attacks.

HELLFIRE VENGEANCE
Add 1 to Scorpion's "Get Over Here!" roll for each Unique Hero you control with one or more wounds and 1 for each destroyed Unique Hero in your army, up to a maximum of plus 6.

COMBAT TELEPORT 3
After attacking an adjacent figure with Scorpion, if you rolled at least one blank you may place him on any empty space within 3 spaces of his original placement and attack one additional time. When Scorpion starts to Teleport, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

[Lazy Orang]

Hate to bother you, @Ronin , but any word on those tests?

[Ronin]

Didn't get a chance to run any games yesterday. Still working on Yakuza. I'll get to Scorp this afternoon.

[Lazy Orang]

Thanks, chap!

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Scorpion (Hanzo Hasashi)

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Scorpion(210), Cap(240), Star-Lord(250), Hand Ninja x 2(85), Angel(90) (960)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Wolverine(280), Shang-Chi(230) (960)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R3T3: 5 wounds(3 are excess) on Iron Fist, kills him. (height + Cap + S-L + GoH)
R4T2: 1 wound on Luke Cage, kills him. (height + Cap + S-L + GoH)
R5T2: 3 wounds on Wolverine, kills him. (height + Cap + S-L + GoH)

Get Over Here:
R2T2: rolls a 12 and fails
R2T3: rolls a 4 and fails
R3T2: rolls a 4+1=5 and fails.
R3T3: rolls a 15+1=16 and pulls Iron Fist to height disadvantage, putting 1 wound on him.
R4T2: rolls a 19+1=20 and pulls Cage to disadvantage, putting 1 wound on him.
R4T3: rolls a 12+1=13 and puts 1 wound on Shang-Chi, killing him.
R5T2: rolls a 14+1=15 and pulls Wolverine to disadvantage, puts 1 wound on him.

Notes:
R2T1: Cap puts 2 wounds on Iron Fist, then 1 wound on Shang-Chi.
R2T3: Cage puts 2 wounds on Cap.
R3T1: Fist puts 2 wounds on Cap.
R3T3: Shang-Chi kills 2 Hand Ninja.
R4T1: Cap puts 3 wounds on Shang-Chi.
R4T1: Shang-Chi kills 1 Hand Ninja.
R4T3: Hand Ninja puts 3 wounds on Wolverine.
R4: Wolverine heals 1 wound.
R5T1: Cap puts 2 wounds on Wolverine.


Cap with 4/5 wounds, Star-Lord, Scorpion, and Angel all unwounded with 3 Hand Ninja left.

Just a complete massacre. Scorpion was well above his point value here, and he was only getting a +1 to his roll. The Hand Ninja + Scorpion combo is super good, add in the boosters to his attack and he's insane. It didn't help that the Fighters couldn't seem to kill off Cap, and lost initiative every round I believe.

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Army Test 2 (rematch)
Map: Custom
Units:
Scorpion(210), Cap(240), Star-Lord(250), Hand Ninja x 2(85), Angel(90) (960)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Wolverine(280), Shang-Chi(230) (960)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2: 2 wounds on Iron Fist in 2 attacks. (Cap + S-L + Combat Teleport)
R2T3: 4 wounds(1 is excess) on Iron Fist, kills him. (height + Cap + S-L + GoH)
R4T2: 1 wound on Luke Cage, kills him. (Cap)
R5T2: 2 wounds on Wolverine in 2 attacks. (height + Cap + Combat Teleport)
R5T3: 1 wound on Wolverine. (height + Cap)
R6T2: 3 wounds(1 is excess) to Wolverine, kills him. (height + GoH)

Get Over Here:
R2T3: rolls a 15+1=16, pulls Iron Fist to disadvantage putting 1 wound on him.
R3T2: rolls a 6+1=7 fails
R4T3: rolls a 7+1=8 fails
R6T2: rolls a 14+3=17 pulls Wolverine to disadvantage putting 1 wound on him.
R6T3: rolls a 6+3=9 fails

Notes:
R2T2: Iron Fist puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord.
R2T3: Fist puts 1 wound on Star-Lord, then heals 1 wound. Cage kills a Hand Ninja.
R2T3: Hand Ninja puts 2 wounds on Luke Cage(botch).
R3T1: Cage kills a Hand Ninja.
R4T1: Wolverine kills Star-Lord.
R4T2: Wolverine kills a Hand Ninja.
R4T2: Hand Ninja puts 2 wounds on Wolverine.
R4T3: Wolverine kills a Hand Ninja, then heals 1 wound.
R4: Wolverine heals 1 wound
R5T1: Cap puts 3 wounds on Wolverine.
R5T1: Wolverine kills a Hand Ninja then heals 1 wound.
R5T3: Shang-Chi puts 3 wounds on Cap(botch).
R5: Wolverine heals 1 wound.
R6T1: Cap is killed by Shang-Chi's MMA.
R6T2: Shang-Chi puts 3 wounds on Scorpion.
R6T3: Shang-Chi puts 1 wound on Scorpion.
R7T1: Shang-Chi kills Scorpion.
R7T2: Shang-Chi puts 2 wounds on Angel.
R7T3: Shang-Chi kills Angel.
R8T1: Shang-Chi kills last Hand Ninja.


Shang-Chi with 1/5 wounds.

Scorpion was once again pretty nasty in this build. With these specific support units, he really is a force. However, the Fighters just managed to come back and eek out a victory.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Scorpion's attack power is very good. Get Over Here can be tricky in some instances as he can't be engaged when using it, so you risk having no target to attack if he fails the roll. If he gets the roll though, it's going to be big damage between the automatic wound, the auto skull, the likelihood of him having height, the potential double attack, and then the Hand Ninja attacks from height. Very high potential. Not even reaching his potential, he still feels quite good. I'd be comfortable seeing his Hellfire Vengeance being capped at a +3 or +4(it's rare we've even seen his potential maxed yet he's still dominant, so this is just a safeguard), and his points come up to 215. He'll still be more than worth drafting at that value(higher than I wanted him going, but we're here now). He's not someone to be slept on, as you will want to take him out as early as possible.

[Yodaking]

In addition to capping the bonus at +4, I'm starting to think the auto-wound should be pulled back to an unblockable attack die. Pull them to you, place them on low ground if able, roll for a 50/50 wound, attack with +1 skull, if you roll a blank you attack again. That's still a pretty good combo that can be triggered on an 8+ when letting your allies go fight the enemy first.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

In addition to capping the bonus at +4, I'm starting to think the auto-wound should be pulled back to an unblockable attack die. Pull them to you, place them on low ground if able, roll for a 50/50 wound, attack with +1 skull, if you roll a blank you attack again. That's still a pretty good combo that can be triggered on an 8+ when letting your allies go fight the enemy first.

I'd be concerned about the risk of him being a damp squib/too high variance like that. He's already got a risk of effectively wasting your turn if you flub your GOH roll (plus, I feel I should point out that Invisible, Intangible, Tiny, Large, Huge, Density Control and Immovable figures basically hard counter him).


I'm happy moving forward with a cap of +4 at 215.
Thanks @Arkham ! I'll move this guy forwards this evening (BST) if there are no objections.

[Scapemage]

I like 215 with the +4 cap, but I don't think the wound needs to be scaled back for the reasons LO said. A fair amount of figures have ranged power immunity, plus if you do miss the roll, you've nearly wasted a turn.

[Arkham]

I wouldn't change the auto-wound. If anything, it's the auto-skull that's overkill, IMO.

That said, perhaps an overall game recap is in order. How many wins vs. losses, what were the remaining figures etc. If that is compiled maybe we'll have a better picture to finalize on.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Arkham

I wouldn't change the auto-wound. If anything, it's the auto-skull that's overkill, IMO.

Hmm... what if we made that something like 'one blank counts as a skull' or '-1 defence' and brought him in at 205? I don't desperately care either way, but that's a dial I don't mind turning.