D2 - changes in the base size

[JairEmia]

Originally Posted by theGuru

I was at my FLGS the other day taking a look at the D&D single minis they had available.

I realized that with the new bases, I wouldn't be surprised if you started seeing Heroscape figures in those cases available for singles purchases just like the D&D and SW minis in some stores.

Well that would be a very very positive change indeed!

After I get my head around the issue maybe I can come to terms with it...

[chas]

Its no big deal either way, but here's the obvious question from us non D&D players. In what way do smaller bases fit other game maps/boards/spaces etc.?

[Takanuva]

I've never seen one in person, but apparently D&D boards have little squares that are to small for Heroscape bases.

[Greyelephant]

Originally Posted by JairEmia

Well that would be a very very positive change indeed!

After I get my head around the issue maybe I can come to terms with it...

Agreed! That would be very welcomed indeed. I like the fact I can us Auggie for some singles here and there, but a store I could actually walk into and find them would be a neat change.

[Pygon]

Originally Posted by chas

Its no big deal either way, but here's the obvious question from us non D&D players. In what way do smaller bases fit other game maps/boards/spaces etc.?

DnD is usually played on table maps that have 1 inch squares which represent 5 feet. The default small bases in Heroscape are too big to fit in them. The new smaller bases, however, will fit.

This isn't the case with the double space figures. Large figures in DnD sit on 2 inch circular bases. I'm not sure how the double space Heroscape bases fit in that, but determined players will manage.

[Agent Minivann]

For the most part I'm OK with the new bases, but I really don't like the inconsistency between old and new bases. There could be a whole lot of positioning flexibility that the new have that the old won't. That could make a big difference when checking LOS. I would love to see them all one or the other, but I'm OK with the implications these have for the game as a whole and its future. I wish the old could be retrofitted to the new bases, but I know that just isn't going to be possible for some units. On the other hand I wouldn't be too upset with a future "throwback" re-release of the D2 figures with the old school bases. I would still be upset, but not too upset.

[insomnimaniac]

I actually like the smaller bases as it will assist with storage. It seems like the bases are in the way when I throw them into the tackle type boxes that never seem to have enough room.

Now you can get the figure even closer to the jungle tiles (in the bush) and be more difficult to see.

I feel the changes are beneficial for scapes future. The mechanics of our game is the same with new and different figures for scape. I can see getting mad if they reused current scape figures for new and different units.



I do like the Rockers and Squash figures along with the promos, just sayin!

[Ace Histoli]

Meh. I think we've got bigger fish to fry than worrying about the based. When it comes to existential threats to the future of our beloved game, this is pretty weak sauce, especially with Guru's dropped hint that when older stuff is re-released it'll have old school bases.

For me, by far the biggest effect will be that it's easier to fit a squad of figures into a tackle box section.


Edit: ninja'd by insomnimaniac

[KenM]

IMO the real reason for the base size change is simple, money. If WOTC is now handling heroscape and they are putting Scape minis out based on the old DnD minis they have, then they don't have to pay someone to rebase what they have. Just repackage and done.

[Dad_Scaper]

Originally Posted by KenM

IMO the real reason for the base size change is simple, money. If WOTC is now handling heroscape and they are putting Scape minis out based on the old DnD minis they have, then they don't have to pay someone to rebase what they have. Just repackage and done.

Except the bases are still different from D&D bases, as I understand it.

I really couldn't care less. Truth's "official" explanation seems perfectly reasonable. Why the hell shouldn't other gamers be able to play with our figs?

I'm not a bit bothered by the new bases but I am *very* excited that the preview hints that, at least in Truth's mind, there are rereleases to come. Come back, Aubriens, Heavies and Werewolves!

[Darkmage7a]

The Base change is a great idea and I'm glad they did it.
I actually play 1inch grid games from time to time. I also play 1inch hex stuff from time to time. The normal bases didn't fit on those formats. Just like we enjoy making customs for heroscape, other gamers enjoy making customs for other games too. If you have ever used a figure from any other game to make a custom for heroscape then you should be able to acknowledge that someone might want to do the same thing for another game.

I've used DnD minis in heroscape before they had ever talked about MS3. I also used HS minis for DnD before MS3 was ever a thought. The biggest problem was most people found it really annoying to have the HS base slightly too large for the normal grid. You couldn't pack a squad of blade gruts into a small area the way you wanted too.

This is great news. Now I can get a bundle of little dragons in a single package, or open a dungeon door chuck full of goblins and actually get them to fit in the room. All while spending half as much money as I used too becuase I don't need separate minis for each game anymore.

The bases have changed, you loose a minor asthetic of the HS game but the change is so worth it!

The new bases are not DnD bases
The new bases fit on ladders
The new bases will without a doubt help sell the game. (I don't care why someone else is buying it as long as it keeps the game alive. HS is my primary concern here.)

The new customs look great. Keep 'em Coming!

[IAmBatman]

I honestly didn't even notice the base thing in the pictures until I read the text pointing it out. Not really a big deal to me.
What I do find interesting is that we seem to be moving in a direction (changes in so many things over time from card stock and styles to figure styles and theme to bases and so on) where it will be an increasingly easy transition to a fully community custom Heroscape game when the game ultimately does stop being sold.
I really look forward to seeing the game continuing to grow and develop even when official product eventually ceases.
The need for so many changes in order to try to keep the game economically viable does help open eyes to the realism that nothing is forever - no matter how much we love this game, it too shall pass at some point. Maybe it's the one in a million Monopoly type of game that lives on in official releases for generations, but that seems a highly unrealistic expectation, especially given all the developments of recent years.
I'm glad it's here now and still going strong, but I'm looking ahead and seeing what the next moves for this community can be after the official product is done. I hope a lot of you guys are still around when that happens. I know I will be.