The Book of Titanium Man

[Hahma]

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[Hahma]

ERB from David:

Titanium Man

I just finished my second Walkthrough on Mage Knight Board Game. Loads of stuff to remember, but I’m loving it so far. Will I love Titanium Man? Let’s Giggity!

Cloaking System

Pretty sneaky. Batman (Terry) has a Stealth Mode that’s similar, but that is based on a revealed Order Marker. This stipulates any turn, even through bonding. This is a bit of a thematic improvement.

I wonder if Titanium Man stole this from the Romulans?

Tractor Beam


Speaking of Star Trek…

Due to the ruling that a Move of 0 is still a Move, perhaps this should say “Instead of moving and before attacking…” Too late… Spider-Man already has similar wording. I think the wording is clear as written, so I’m not going to cater to the rules lawyers on this one.

Spider-Man’s Web Slinger is wicked fun, so I know this is a winner. Yes, I’m still grinning madly at the Star Trek reference. I wonder if Spider-Man is a Tholian?

Magnetic Flux Rings

I wonder if the latter part would read better as, “the figure may not be moved using a special power or a glyph.” (or: “the figure may not be moved.” per Jean Grey’s wording) That depends on if you don't want the figure to move at all, or you want to allow normal movement without the use of any powers.

Another possible issue the wording presents is from “special power on its card”. Example: Jean Grey uses Telekinesis to move Cyclops, who is within 4 spaces. The opponent begins to move Cyclops using Jean Grey’s ability, but Magnetic Flux Rings states that Cyclops can’t use a special ability on his card, not Jean Grey’s. Then again, this might be intentional.

Final Thoughts

I do like the design. Tractor Beam is going to be fun, particularly when using knockback rules. Sorry about the confusion over Magnetic Flux Rings, but the current wording seems to leave some openings for certain types of movement not intended.

Live long and prosper!

[Hahma]

ERB from 1Mmirg:

Wow, very fun design. I know almost nothing about this guy (and neither does the Marvel Wiki, it appears). But the powers look quite fun. I'll trust you that they are thematic.

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Originally Posted by Hahma
Gentlemen, here's Titanium Man for ERB.

Thanks a bunch in advance.

Hahma

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NAME = TITANIUM MAN
SECRET IDENTITY = BORIS BULLSKI
SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENES = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MERCENARY
PERSONALITY = MERCILESS
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4
MOVE = 6
RANGE = 5
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6
POINTS = 240?

CLOAKING SYSTEM
If Titanium Man has not taken a turn this round, he cannot be targeted by opponent's non-adjacent figures for any attacks or special powers that require clear sight.

[Very cool power. If it's been used before, I'm not recalling it, so I'm going to give you kudos for it: This is a solid, thematic way to represent a cloaking system--nice, very nice.]

TRACTOR BEAM
If Titanium Man did not move this turn, before attacking, you may choose a non-adjacent small or medium figure within 4 clear sight spaces of Titanium Man. Place the chosen figure adjacent to Titanium Man. If Titanium man attacks the chosen figure this turn, the chosen figure rolls 2 fewer defense dice. Figures moved by Tractor Beam will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

[Fascinating. I worry a bit about him standing next to a lava pool, that kind of thing, but the power seems quite solid. Glad it's limited by not moving.

Not sure he needs to reduce the defense by 2, that seems a bit harsh--I'm assuming he's going to be putting them lower or otherwise messing with them plenty with this power--I'd suggest 1 being enough. Unless, of course, this power shows up in the comics a being a full-on paralyzing power.]

MAGNETIC FLUX RINGS
Any time an opponent would begin the movement of a figure they control within 4 clear sight spaces of Titanium Man, you may first roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 8 or higher, the figure may not use a special power on its card or glyph to move this turn.

[Hard to word this one, but I like what you're doing. You might consider:

If you roll 8 or higher, the figure may not use a special power on its card or glyph when moving this turn.

Or

If you roll 8 or higher, the figure may not use a special power on its card or glyph in order to move this turn.

Or

If you roll 8 or higher, the figure may not use a special power on its card or glyph while moving this turn.

But I trust the C3G Heroes to be able to iron out the best phrasing. Just some thoughts to consider.


FLYING

SUPER STRENGTH


After reading this guy, I'm curious. I'll need to learn more about him. Sounds really fun!

All best, V

[Hahma]

David remembered Web Slinger and how Tractor Beam compared and I mentioned it to 1Mmirg for him to know that there's precedence for that power and the -2 to defense. It's not always easy to pull off and he's a single attacker, so while it can be nasty, it can be situational and besides, he needs something to give him a little umph and different from the Iron Man units. Range of 4 will allow many ranged figures to blast him from beyond that range.

I'm sure the wording for the last sentence of Magnetic Flux Rings could use some fine tuning. I explained the theme of it to David, so he knows now that it's not to stop them from being moved by others like JG's throw, nor totally stop their movement. It just messes with concentration or electronics or whatever to possibly keep a unit from moving a certain way that turn.

[tcglkn]

I don't know why I didn't say this before, but I think Tractor Bean should only be minus 1 defense. I know it's supposed to represent them fumbling trying to figure out what happened, but I think that Web Slinger should have more of a defense reduction because they are stuck with Web.

I'm no good at wording usually so I'll let Griffin, Bats or SirG help you there.

[Hahma]

Couldn't be that like the web, they are stuck in the beam he's using with one hand while he's smacks the snot out of the with the other?

I have all but 1 army test done with him with the -2 for Tractor Beam.

He beat Green Goblin twice (230)
Split against Blade (230)
Split against Submariner (250)
Lost twice vs. Iron Man (Hasbro) (240)
Won twice (with 3 wounds both times) vs. Iron Man (250)

Lost to Parademons x 3 with 3 of 6 surviving

Lost to Lex Corps Security X 2 with 2 of 4 LCS surviving

Army Test 1 with Titanium Man and C3G Abomination vs. Superman and Batman. Abomination survived with 4 wounds. TM put 2 wounds on Batman after Tractor Beaming him and Bats missed ES. TM missed Superman after Tractor Beaming him with a 3/3 attack. TM only put 2 wounds on Bats for the whole game while Abomination did all the rest of the damage with 2 auto throw wounds on Supes and 1 auto throw wound on Bats.

He's a single attacker with no special attack, no special defense other than a situational Cloaking System and Magnetic Flux Rings. Tractor Beam isn't always easy to set up and unlike Spider-Man, TM can't use Webswing to leave engagement w/o attack. So once TM is engaged, he can't use Tractor Beam again unless there's another opponent close by.

[IAmBatman]

So maybe 240 thus far? I say keep that -2 because he needs it! I'd hate to see his cost go under 230.

[tcglkn]

Fair enough. It was just a suggestion. You justified the current design so I see no reason to tweak that. Just something I wanted to get off my chest.

[Hahma]

I understand Tickle and there's nothing wrong with you bringing that up. I had just figured from the get go that being caught in a tractor beam you are kind of helpless like in a web. Like Bats said, he needs it. He's only a single attacker and can roll bad defense to go down quick with bad defense rolls like Iron Man/Men, so w/o double attacks or special attack, this give him a better chance of dishing out some big damage once in awhile. It also is more of a threat to force the opponent to think twice about positioning. A -1 isn't really nearly as scary and not so much a deterrent for many units.

[Hahma]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT TITANIUM MAN

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS-

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit too powerful or too weak.
PASS – Possible with future Mercenaries

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS-

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS –

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS – .Even if he doesn't get to use a certain power, the threat of a power like Tractor Beam or Magnetic Flux Rings can alter placement of their figures, which can be helpful to Titanium Man's team.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS -. There is certainly strategy in trying to set up Tractor Beam. Also, getting into position to affect opponent's with MFR is neat too. Placement and OM use on Titanium Man can affect how well Cloaking System works to not allow ranged attacks on him or force opponent's to engage him to attack.

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 240
- Give a brief overview. .Titanium Man was able to use all his powers, but at various times and not in every HH test. Cloaking System forced Iron Man to engage him on 1st turn of a round, but that was it and it will likely be more useful in army tests to either lure enemies to him or force them to attack others. Tractor Beam was useful but opponents can bypass it at times. Magnetic Flux Rings also helped at times. He's only got 4 lives, so bad defense rolls will cost him, especially against multiple attackers. When he can get Tractor Beam to work, it's pretty cool. He does have a nice normal ranged attack of 5, but only a single attack and range of 5 helps keep it from being too nasty with range of 6.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units:Titanium Man vs. Green Goblin (230)
Titanium Man wins with 2 wounds on T5R1/Titanium Man took 2 wounds from Pumpkin Bomb when Magnetic Flux Rings failed to stop GG from flying over him, but GG missed normal attack. Titanium Man had put 1 wound on GG earlier and then Tractor Beamed him on T5 and rolled all skulls (6) vs. GG's 2 shields on 3 dice to kill GG. Lucky all skulls roll.
TEST 2
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Green Goblin (230)
Titanium Man wins with 3 wounds on T1R3/.TM failed to stop GG from flying over him for Pumpkin Bomb attack and took 2 wounds from that and 1 more from normal attack. TM Tractor Beamed GG for 2 wounds and then just had height advantage and kept GG from flying because of Magnetic Flux Rings. GG is at disadvantage because of needing to be pretty close to TM to use PB or normal attack and Goblin Glider doesn't help him defensively because TM can fly.
TEST 3
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Blade (230)
Titanium Man wins with 2 wounds on T3R2/ TM Tractor Beamed Blade for a couple wounds and then Blade put a couple wounds on TM with normal attack as Daywalker missed after TM rolled 6 for MFR. TM had height and finished off Blade with a huge 5/0 attack.
TEST 4
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Blade (230)
Blade wins with 3 wounds on T3R2/ Blade didn't get Tractor Beamed this game but his Daywalker was stopped by MFR. But Blade did well with his normal attacks to take TM down.
TEST 5
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Iron Man (240) Hasbro
Iron Man wins with 1 wound on T1R2../Double attacks and good defense rolls were key for Iron Man in this game. He has a range of 6 to stay out of Tractor Beam range unless TM got within 4 spaces at end of round and won initiative for next round, but that didn't happen.
TEST 6
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Iron Man (240) Hasbro
Iron Man wins with 2 wounds wins on T1R3/ This one lasted a little longer. Iron Man got to height first and took advantage of double attack. Titanium Man couldn't use Tractor Beam again and his single attack wasn't good enough vs. Iron Man's double attack.
TEST 7
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs Submariner (250)
Submariner wins with 3 wounds on T5R2/ Slugfest that Submariner did better at.
TEST 8
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Submariner (250)
Titanium Man wins with 3 wounds on T6R2/ Titanium Man got height early and took advantage of it.
TEST 9
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Iron Man (250)
Titanium Man wins with 3 wounds on T2R2/.Iron Man had to engage on T1 R2 because of Cloaking System and then put 2 wounds on TM with special attack and moved him down. But he shouldn't have moved TM because that allowed TM to Tractor Beam Iron Man on the next turn to an adjacent same level space and finished him off with a 3/1 attack. Mistake by IM most likely cost him, but TM would still have had an attack of 5 that could have put final 2 wounds on IM anyway, but not as easily.
TEST 10
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Iron Man (250)
Titanium Man wins with 3 wound on T6R1/ Slugfest that was nothing special. TM just outlasted IM.

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 230-240
- Give a brief overview. .With only 4 lives, a single attacker can't do too much when getting auto wounds from these Parademons who had some good rolls.

Map: . The Broken Skyline
Units: Titanium Man vs. Parademon Shock Troop x 2 (240 points).

Spoiler Alert!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? 3 of 6 Parademon Shock Troops live to win on T1R3.

Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 240
- Give a brief overview. . While Lex Corps Security aren't worth as much without a Criminal to bond with, they are still pretty good against a single normal attacker like Titanium Man. LCS have great defense to thwart Titanium Man and have a good enough attack to chip away at TM.
Map: . The Broken Skyline .
Units: Titanim Man vs. Lex Corps Security x 2 (260) .

Spoiler Alert!

Who won and how many wounds did they have? 2 of 4 LCS live to win on T6R2.

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?.YES
- What should be the unit's point value? .240
- Give a brief overview... Titanium Man was able to Tractor Beam Bats and Supes down from the central tower, but only put 2 wounds on Bats. It did help to get them down so Abom could get at them without having to lose attack dice from leaping.
Map: The Broken Skyline
Units: . Titanium Man (240) and Abomination (360) C3G for 600 points vs. Superman (400) and Batman (200) for 600 points.

Spoiler Alert!

Abomination leaped to side tower early while Titanium Man moved toward central towers as Supes and Batman did too. Titanium Man had a chance to attack Bats early but didn't want to risk a wound from ES since he only has 4 lives. TM did Tractor Beam Supes adjacent and lower, but missed with a 3/3 attack. Supes got to same level and missed TM. Abom jumped down and walked to attack Supes for a couple wounds but failed Throw. Supes and Abom went at it for awhile and even Titanium Man attacked one more time vs. Supes, but didn't wound him. Abomination was nasty vs. Supes as besides his normal attack wounding Supes, his throw put 2 auto wounds on Supes. While Supes and Abom went at it, Titanium Man Tractor Beamed Bats for 2 wounds when ES failed to help Bats. But that was all the wounds TM would put on as Bats finished him off from the 3 wounds he took from Supes. Abom wounded Bats normally for 1 wound and finished him off with a wound from throwing him.

Who won and how many wounds did they have? Abomination with 4 wounds survives to win on T4R4.

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? .YES
What should be the unit's point value? .240
Give a brief overview. .Titanium Man had a more active role in this game as he went toe to toe with Iron Man for the most part but affected Iron Man and Iron Fist with Magnetic Flux Rings and scared them into less then ideal positions so they could avoid being within 4 clear sight spaces and get Tractor Beamed. Cloaking System kept him from being attacked by Iron Man from a position IM wanted to keep, so he'd have to give that up to move down and adjacent to TM to attack but left vulnerable to other things, so he stayed put and attacked someone else.

Map: .The Broken Skyline
Units: .Titanium Man (240) HYDRA Agents x 3 (240) Red Skull (220) Baron von Strucker (210) Hawkeye II (160) and Skrull Infiltrators x 3 (30) for 1,100 points vs. Luke Cage (190) Iron Fist (260) Iron Man (250) Spidey (250) and Moon Knight (150) for 1,100 points.

Spoiler Alert!

R1 – Moon Knight is picked up by Frenchie
Hydra Agents and BVS move up left side
Iron Fist and Luke advance
Hydra and BVS move, bringing some more agents from rear.
Spidey and Luke move but Luke can't go too far as he needs to be close enough to move IM next time.
Titanium Man moves toward tower on right side.



R2- Iron Man and Luke advance
Agents move and one gets adjacent to Luke and he takes 1 wound from 3 attacks while Iron Fist blocks 1 attack. Baron von Strucker moves and misses Luke with his normal attack.
Iron Man flies to side tower and can't attack Titanium Man because of Cloaking System so he attacks BVS for 1 wound with ranged attack. Luke kills adjacent Hydra Agent but that Agent is replaced by a Skrull Infiltrator to keep Luke engaged and not climb ladder.
Hawkeye carries Red Skull forward and orders RS to remove wound from BVS and put it on Luke Cage (2) and then RS puts 2 more wounds (4) on Luke with Dual Lugar special attack.
Iron Man attacks Red Skull for a wound to get the Cube on the other side of the central tower and then IM attacks RS again for 1 more wound (2). Luke kills the adjacent Skrull Infiltrator.
Hydra Agents move and put final wound on Luke and 1 wound (1) on Iron Fist. Then BVS caon only move adjacent to Cube and attack with range vs. Iron Fist but misses.



R3- Iron Fist moves onto Cube but doesn't pick it up yet as he doesn't want to lose it right back toward the enemy. Then he attacks BVS with height for 1 wound (1).
Hydra Agents attack and miss Iron Fist and then BVS misses Iron Fist with Satan's Claw.
Iron Man can't fly to other tower because of Titanium Man's Magnetic Flux Ring roll of 13 and he can't attack Titanium Man from height on the tower because of Cloaking System, so he walks one space over to be out of TM's sight and manages to attack Red Skull for 1 wound (3).
Titanium Man can't see Iron Man anymore to be able to Tractor Beam him, so he flies to center space with height on the tower and attacks Iron Man for 1 wound (1).
Moon Knight Airdrops onto central tower and puts 1 wound (2) on BVS below with Crescent Dart but misses a Hydra Agent.
Hydra Agents move and one is on ladder and adjacent to Moon Knight but misses attack, while 3 others attack Iron Fist for 1 wound (1) and then BVS misses Iron Fist again with Satan's Claw.

R4- Iron Fist picks up Cube and Stealth Leaps adjacent to Spidey and passes the Cube to him for safe keeping. Then IF kills a Hydra Agent and heals a wound (0). Dead Hydra Agent is replaced with second Skrull Infiltrator.
Hydra Agents miss Moon Knight, Iron Fist and Spidey, who swings up to top of ladder. BvS misses Iron Fist with ranged attack.
Iron Man attacks twice vs. Titanium Man on higher adjacent space but misses both times.
Titanium Man attacks with height vs. Iron Man for 1 wound (2).
Moon Knight misses adjacent Hydra Agent with Crescent Dart but puts a wound (3) on BVS with it.
Hydra Agents move onto ladder below Spidey so he can't Websling BVS there next turn and they attack Moon Knight and Iron Fist but miss all attacks, while leaving Spidey alone this time to keep him from swinging away to Websling someone..BVS puts 1 wound (1) on MK with Death Spore but misses Iron Fist.



R5- 4 Hydra Agents advance because of BVS's Terrorist Network. Then Hawkeye carries Red Skull to 2nd rung of ladder to be able to attack with height vs. adjacent Iron Fist. Red Skull puts 3 wounds (3) on Iron Fist and allows BVS to take a turn with Motivator but BVS is still having bad luck and misses IF with a 2/2 attack.
Iron Fist Stealth Leaps to ladder above Red Skull and kills him with a massive attack with height and then heals down to 2 wounds.
Hydra Agents put 2 wounds (3) on Moon Knight but miss Iron Fist. BVS puts 1 wound (4) on Moon Knight with Death Spore but misses Iron Fist.
Iron Man attacks Titanium Man who has height for 1 wound (1) and knocks him off tower and out of sight. IM uses second attack vs. BVS and kills him.
Titanium Man flies back onto previous space and kills Iron man with a 4/1 attack from height.
Moon Knight kills adjacent Hydra Agent with Crescent Dart (which is replaced with last Skrull Infiltrator) but he misses Hawkey with CD.



R6- Hawkeye uses Quick Shot against Iron Fist but misses and moves 3 spaces onto side tower and carries Hydra Agent with him and places it on adjacent ladder..
Iron Fist can't Stealth Leap because of Magnetic Flux Rings but since IF is within 4 spaces of Titanium Man (with 2 Oms) IF doesn't want to get Tractor Beamed next turn so he moves normally to get 5 spaces from TM and kills a Skrull Infiltrator and heals down to 1 wound.
Titanium Man flies to top of ladder to get closer to Iron Fist for next turn and attacks him with height for 2 wounds (3).
Iron Fist can't Stealth Leap so he walks to ladder rung under Titanium Man and attacks with attack of 7 and kills Titanium Man.
Titanium Man is dead so no turn.
Spidey swings to tower that Hawkeye is on and uses Cosmic Cube to take a wound from Iron Fist (2) to put on Hawkeye (1) and Spidey takes a wound (1) and loses CC then attacks and misses Hawkeye.



R7- Spidey swings onto Cube and takes a wound off himself (0)and puts it on Hawkeye (2) and then takes a wound (1) and loses the CC again and puts 1 wound (3) on Hawkeye with normal attack.
Hawkeye puts 1 wound on Spidey (2) with Quick Shot and moves onto CC. Removes 1 wound (2) to put on Spidey (3) and then takes a wound (3) and loses the CC.
Spidey uses Webslinger to bring Hawkeye to him and kills him.
Hydra Agents miss Moon Knight and put 1 wound (3) on Iron Fist.
Iron Fist kills last Skrull Infiltrator and heals down to 2 wounds.
Hydra Agents all miss Moon Knight.



R8- Hydra Agents put 1 wound (3) on Iron Fist.
Iron Fist Stealth Leaps adjacent to 2 Hydra Agents and kills 1 and heals a wound (2).
Hydra Agents concentrate attacks on Iron Fist and put 2 wounds on him (4).
Iron Fist Stealth Leaps and kills a Hydra Agent.
Hydra Agents attack 3 x to get last wound on Iron Fist but miss Moon Knight.
Spidey moves onto CC and removes a wound (2) to put one on Agent and kill it, then he takes a wound (3) and loses CC and then kills another Agent with his normal attack.



R9- Moon Knight kills 1 of 2 Agents he attacks with Crescent Darts.
Hydra Agents move so 1 is on CC to block it from Spidey and they they attack and miss Moon Knight and Spidey.
Spidey Webslings Agent off of CC and kills it.
Last 3 Hydra Agents move with one going back onto CC. They all miss their attacks.
Spidey kills another Agent with Webslinger.
Agents put final wound on Moon Knight and miss Spidey.



R10- Last 2 Agents attack Spidey but miss.
Spidey attacks with height to kill an Agent.
Last Agent puts 1 wound (4) on Spidey
Spidey Webslings last Agent and kills it.


Who won and how many wounds did they have? Spidey with 4 wounds wins on T4R10.

[Hahma]

I'll link to OP and complete the test sheet after I get my kids some breakfast. So get off my back