The Book of Detective Chimp

[Karat]

Yea
Some edits.

DRUNKEN DETECTIVE
At the start of the round, after Order Markers are placed and before rolling for initiative, you may view an unrevealed Order Marker on an opponent's Army Card. For the entire round, if you viewed the:

• • "'1"', add 1 to the Defense numbers of all figures you control.
  • "'2"', after taking a turn with a figure you control, you may remove the "X" Order Marker on an Army Card you control to take an immediate turn with any other figure you control, and you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
  • "'3"', figures you control add 1 to their Attack numbers when attacking the figure who's Army Card the Order Marker was viewed on.
  • "'X"', Detective Chimp may not move, attack, or use his Ape Escape special power till the start of the next round.

APE ESCAPE 12
If Detective Chimp is attacked by an opponent's figure, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, Detective Chimp takes no damage and you may immediately place Detective Chimp on an empty space within 3 spaces of Detective Chimphis current placement that is no more than 12 levels above Detective Chimp'his base, and is not adjacent to an enemy figure. Detective Chimp will not take any leaving engagement attacks when using Ape Escape.

For pasteability:

DRUNKEN DETECTIVE
At the start of the round, after Order Markers are placed and before rolling for initiative, you may view an unrevealed Order Marker on an opponent's Army Card. For the entire round, if you viewed the:[list]
• '1', add 1 to the Defense numbers of all figures you control.
• '2', after taking a turn with a figure you control, you may remove the "X" Order Marker on an Army Card you control to take an immediate turn with any other figure you control and you may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
• '3', figures you control add 1 to their Attack numbers when attacking the figure who's Army Card the Order Marker was viewed on.
• 'X', Detective Chimp may not move, attack, or use his Ape Escape special power till the start of the next round.

APE ESCAPE 12
If Detective Chimp is attacked by an opponent's figure, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 12 or higher, Detective Chimp takes no damage and you may immediately place Detective Chimp on an empty space within 3 spaces of his current placement that is no more than 12 levels above his base and is not adjacent to an enemy figure. Detective Chimp will not take any leaving engagement attacks when using Ape Escape.

One other thing that may need some clarification. Right now if you choose the 2 you must take a turn with any other figure. I'm pretty sure your intent was a figure other than the figure that took a turn (which is how I played it) but looking at it again it could be interpreted as the figure you removed the 'X' from potentially allowing a double turn with the figure you just took a turn with. Basically just want to make sure we cover our bases here.

Also probably needs a once over from @johnny139

[Arkham]

@johnny139 can you check the wording? Thanks!

[johnny139]

Basing on Predator and Sandman as precedent, the Order Markers should probably be as follows:

DRUNKEN DETECTIVE
At the start of the round, after Order Markers are placed and before rolling for initiative, you may view an unrevealed Order Marker on an opponent's Army Card. For the entire round, if you viewed:
• Order Marker 1, figures you control roll 1 additional die when defending.
• Order Marker 2, after taking a turn with a figure you control, you may reveal the "X" Order Marker on an Army Card you control to take an immediate turn with any other figure you control. You may not take any additional turns with other figures you control.
• Order Marker 3, figures you control roll 1 additional die when attacking a figure with Order Marker 3 on its card.
• the "X" Order Marker, Detective Chimp may not move, attack, or use his Ape Escape special power.

The fact the sentence starts with "for the entire round" means we don't need the bit at the end of the X pip. I shuffled some wording around to make it a bit more consistent... tried to avoid the possessive who in OM3's pip, because it was wonky to figure out, which led to changing to rolling an additional die, then I changed OM1's pip to match, and yeah, it was a headache.

But I think that should be good.

[tcglkn]

Kinda bothers me that we use different formatting for the X OM versus numbered ones. Would prefer to have them match on the same power at least. That looks terrible to me.

[johnny139]

Yeah, I don't love it either, but we have a pretty strong precedent for both - way stronger for "X" Order Marker, less so for Order Marker #, but at least 3-4 uses in the past.

Personally I think "2" Order Marker looks weird, though, so I don't think I'd be happy either way.

[IAmBatman]

There's also official game precedent for doing the same mechanical effects in different wording on different cards. Like it's not that common, but it happens. Would it be so wrong to go "Order Marker 'X'" for the last clause?

[johnny139]

I mean, there's a difference between phrasing and vocabulary. ("X" Order Marker) is a singular thing, so it's different than, say, using "Ninja Turtle" instead of "Turtle Ninja" on the TMNT. Those are two vocabulary words, (Ninja) and (Turtle), so the ordering isn't really relevant.

Like, it's not a big deal, we all know what it means, it's all nitpicky stuff either way. Comes down to personal preference - do we want one of the pips on this card to be weird, or do we want one card that uses the X to be weird? I'd prefer the latter, but it doesn't really matter.

[IAmBatman]

Turtle Ninja would sound like trash. The ordering is 100% relevant.

I kind of dislike how it says "the "X" Order Marker" like Loki doesn't exist. lol

[Arkham]

Not bothered by it personally. Cards are up.

I propose a vote to move to On Deck. @johnny139 @japes @Lord Pyre @Soundwarp SG-1 @Yodaking @Arch-vile

[IAmBatman]

Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.

This guy is fun! Glad to see him wrapping up.

[Arch-vile]

yea

[tcglkn]

I mean I hate that its different on the same card, but I'm not gonna hold this up over it. Yea