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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

Besides Frankenstein, who else currently benefits from the blanks?
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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

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Besides Frankenstein, who else currently benefits from the blanks?
Occult Batman and Swamp Thing II do. Not sure if there are others.

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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

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Besides Frankenstein, who else currently benefits from the blanks?
In addition to Bats' list, Hannibal also likes the blank, which was intentional.
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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: (Frank Drake)

Army Test
Map: City Park (modified).
Units: Frank Drake(200), Frankenstein(320), Spider-Hulk(310) & Man-Bat(170) vs. Ms. Marvel, Captain America, Punisher & Kraven [1000].
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Army Test
Map: City Park (modified).
Units: Frank Drake(200), Frankenstein(320), Spider-Hulk(310) & Man-Bat(170) vs. Ms. Marvel, Captain America, Punisher & Kraven [1000].
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Army Test
Map: City Park (modified).
Units: Frank Drake(200), Batman (Occult, 230), Hellboy(II, 340) & Zatanna(II, 220) vs. Frankenstein, Wendigo & Dragon Man [990]
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Feels pretty good. I think he just needs a few more friends to benefit from the blanks.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Interesting and thematic design. The Zatanna and Occult Batman combo has some real potential for auto wounds that will be awesome in some match-ups. Was not so great against the high Life Creatures.

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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

Thanks T! 1 more set of results and I'm thinking we may be good to move forward here.
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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: FRANK DRAKE
VERSION TESTED
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Team Test
Map: CITY PARK
Units: Frank Drake (200), Hellboy (II) (340), Buffy (210), Wasp (I) (50) (800) vs Wrecking Crew (800)
Unit Summary: Frank survived a bit but didn’t do anything productive here for his team otherwise. Dice mildly favored the Wrecking Crew but not by much and largely because they were rolling a lot more of them.
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [0] wounds
  • HUNTING PARTY: Changed [0] dice into blanks.
  • EXORCIST GUN: Was not usable here
  • MOVING TARGET: His strongest ability, making him tough to hit or hurt in endgame.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Piledriver with Full Life, Bulldozer with Full Life, Thunderball with Full Life, and Wrecker with 1/6 Life win.
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Team Test
Map: DARK DIMENSION
Units: Frank Drake (200), Zatanna (II) (220), Batman (Occult (230), Wolfsbane (130), Etrigan (320) (1100) vs Trigon (680), N’Garai (x9) (405), Hellfire: Fireball spell (x3) (15) (1100)
Unit Summary: It felt like he had more potential to do things here, but both his first two abilities are so niche and limited in effect that things didn’t break just right for them to be relevant and he didn’t do much with the rest of his stats and abilities, even in what seemed like a more thematic match up.
Game Summary
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  • Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [1] wounds on [Trigon [1]]
  • HUNTING PARTY: Changed [0] dice into blanks
  • EXORCIST GUN: Rolled [0] times to stop figure movements
  • MOVING TARGET: Saved him from two wounds.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Trigon with 7/9 Life wins.
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UNIT SUMMARY: I’m not sure what the right builds are for Frank Drake, but the ones I used here didn’t feel like them. Hunting Party’s blank effect is limited due to needing the ally close to the enemy first and then only producing one blank, which doesn’t offer very consistent or high level value considering the class restriction. I didn’t roll for Exorcist Gun at all in either match because it was in the wrong match up for the first and in the second, Trigon didn’t need to move by the time Frank was in range to use it. And then Trigon just KO’s Frank with a fair amount of ease. Frank has OK attack and defense stats, but not at 200. I’m not sure he’s terribly draftable as is with the nicheness of his abilities, especially at 200 points.

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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

What if Hunting party let him change a die to a skull/shield/blank instead of just a blank? Then he has more universal synergy.
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Re: The Book of Frank Drake (Public Playtesting)

What if we swapped the effects and made it so it's harder to trigger but worked for everyone?
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