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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

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FORCE OF ONE
When Iron Fist attacks an opponent's figure with his normal attack you may either:
  • roll 4 additional attack dice, and while attacking he is considered to have the Super Strength ability
  • roll attack dice as normal, and after attacking you may attack two additional times
This wording (other than SS bit) is modeled after Hawk Swoop.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 11:46 PM
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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

Yeah, that change looks great. I really like Focused Chi as is and I like the Stealth Leap on him. That looks like a good change to the third power.
With Focused Chi together with Force of One, I think his normal attack should probably be lowered to 3.

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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

You'r right, a potential 3 attacks of 6 or 1 attack of 10 is too much firepower for a 240-250 point figure.

A base attack 3 would feel a little off to me, but I think that's a good change.

Absorbing Man's base attack of 2 felt strange at first when viewing the card, but after playing him the design is spot on. Just an aesthetics thing.
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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

Yep, then he'd have 7 attack with Force of One if he used his Chi, or 6 if he didn't use his Chi. Or if he wants to take on crowds or otherwise benefit from multiple attacks, he could be looking at three attacks of 3 or three attacks of 4 with Chi. Three attacks of 4 could be simply brutal ... I wonder if we shouldn't limit that to different figures? Being able to hit the same figure three times on the same turn with an attack of 4 would make him better at that kind of thing than Flash.

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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

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Three attacks of 4 could be simply brutal ... I wonder if we shouldn't limit that to different figures? Being able to hit the same figure three times on the same turn with an attack of 4 would make him better at that kind of thing than Flash.
I think it is true to the character though to be able to attack multiple times similar to Flash.

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He was able to hit a large monster over a hundred feet tall, nearly a hundred times, in the span of a few seconds at speeds faster than the human eye can track/see[5], move faster than a bullet[6] and so on.
I can tell you I've had plenty of games with Black Canary where she's attacked the same figure 3-4 times in a turn with 5-6 dice.
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Three attacks of 4 could be simply brutal ... I wonder if we shouldn't limit that to different figures? Being able to hit the same figure three times on the same turn with an attack of 4 would make him better at that kind of thing than Flash.
I think it is true to the character though to be able to attack multiple times similar to Flash.

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He was able to hit a large monster over a hundred feet tall, nearly a hundred times, in the span of a few seconds at speeds faster than the human eye can track/see[5], move faster than a bullet[6] and so on.
I can tell you I've had plenty of games with Black Canary where she's attacked the same figure 3-4 times in a turn with 5-6 dice.
Sure, but the difference would be that Black Canary needs some luck in order to get those multiple attacks, whereas Iron Fist would be getting them as default. Something to consider and watch during testing if nothing else.

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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

Sorry maybe it wasnt DOs but knockback considerations
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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

I really like that Force of One special power GP. 12 attacks of 5 or 6 was over kill.
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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

Comic Art option (since yours has another person in it and we try to avoid that.):
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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

One thing that keeps Iron Fist attack in check is the timing of Focused Chi. It is at the end of your turn. So Iron Fist would never get the benefits of Focused Chi on the first OM. If you wanted to play him aggressively you'd need to put all your OM's on him to make the most of his attack potential. This has some risk associated with it.

I think he'd be a good unit to get Captain America's boost as an Avenger, but it would be tough to coordinate OM's.
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Re: The Book of Iron Fist - Design Phase

Is the OP current?
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Is the OP current?
No. I've got a lot of changes I'm planning on moving in (below), but we have that new 48hr rule.


LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 240

FORCE OF ONE
When Iron Fist attacks an opponent's figure with his normal attack you may either:
  • roll 4 additional attack dice, and while attacking he is considered to have the Super Strength ability
  • roll attack dice as normal, and after attacking you may attack two additional times
STEALTH LEAP 12
Instead of his normal move, Iron Fist may Stealth Leap. Stealth Leap has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Iron Fist's Stealth Leap movement, ignore elevations. Iron Fist may leap over water without stopping, leap over figures without becoming engaged, and leap over obstacles such as ruins. Iron Fist may not leap more than 12 levels up or down in a single leap. When moving with Stealth Leap, Iron Fist will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

FOCUSED CHI

After taking a turn with Iron Fist, if you reveal the X Order Marker on his card, you may either remove 1 wound marker from this card, or add 1 to Iron Fist's move, attack and defense numbers for the remainder of the round.
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