The Book of Carrion

[tcglkn]

I kinda like a 3A/4D line here with a price drop.

[Ronin]

Put armies together, but haven't started my games yet. If you're keeping the points the same and just tweaking the statline, just let me know what to test with.

[Karat]

I'd go ahead and try 3/4 Attack & Defense @155 and we can adjust further after your tests.

[Ronin]

Okey doke.

[Ronin]

Version tested:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = CARRION

SPECIES = CLONE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = STALKER
PERSONALITY = INSANE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 155

LEVITATION
Carrion is considered to have height advantage over any figure without the Aerial Advantage, Flying, or Levitation special power whose base is no more than 2 levels above his base. Carrion does not take falling damage and may ignore all effects from terrain tiles he moves onto or occupies.

DENSITY CONTROL
Carrion can move through all figures and obstacles such as ruins, and is never attacked when leaving an engagement. Carrion cannot be targeted by opponents' non-adjacent figures for any attacks or special powers that require clear sight. Carrion may not be moved by any special power on an opponent's Army Card.

DEGENERATIVE TOUCH
If a figure receives 1 or more wounds from Carrion's normal attack, roll a combat die for each wound that figure received this turn. For each skull you roll, that figure receives 1 additional wound. Androids and Constructs are not affected by Degenerative Touch.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Carrion @155 points

Army Test
Map: Everglades and Evergreens (ARV)
Units: Carrion @155, Harley Quinn (I), Shriek, Carnage, Skrullx2 (435) vs Kingpin (I), Doc Ock (I), Black Tarantula (735)

Spoiler Alert!

Carrion got a fair amount of action in this one, but had some poor luck. He did manage to take out a 2 Life Doc Ock (hitting him for 1 wound and then having Degenerative Touch finish him off), but failed to really put a dent in Black Tarantula, who's a bit of a toughie. Didn't help that Carrion whiffed a couple attack rolls that he had on Tarantula while Shriek was still around to knock a die off Tarantula's defense. Plus all 3 of his Degenerative rolls against Tarantula failed.

When Tarantula finally turned his attention to Carrion (he'd been preoccupied with a 1 Life Carnage that kept dodging), he knocked him out in the space of a round, drawing the match down to a full Life Harley vs Tarantula.

I just called that one a win for Tarantula - Harley had already used Smilex so she was stuck trying to chip away at Tarantula (a 5L/5D CCE healer) with her melee attack of 3. It would have taken awhile, but eventually Harley would have whiffed and Tarantula would have taken her down.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): 0 wounds to Kingpin in 1 attack, 1 wound to Doctor Octopus in 1 attack, 3 wounds to Black Tarantula in 6 attacks
• Degenerative Touch: 4 rolls, 1 wound to Doctor Octopus (destroyed)
• Damage Taken: 4 wounds from Black Tarantula in 3 attacks (destroyed)

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Harley Quinn with full Life, 2 Skrulls cede to Black Tarantula with full Life

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Army Test
Map: Everglades and Evergreens (ARV)
Units: Carrion @155, Harley Quinn (I), Shriek, Carnage (715) vs Cyclops (I), Blink, Phoenix, Angel (Warren), Jubilee (715)

Spoiler Alert!

Sent Carrion up against a team with some slightly weaker figures to prey on... unfortunately, Team Carnage caught a couple rough breaks. Shriek got one-shotted before she could accomplish anything and Harley whiffed on Smilex.

Carrion got a couple licks in, but then Phoenix blew him away.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): 0 wounds from Jubilee in 1 special attack, 1 wound to Phoenix in 1 attack, 2 wounds to Jubilee in 1 attack (destroyed)
• Degenerative Touch: 1 roll, 0 wounds
• Damage Taken: 1 wound from Psionic Blast, 3 wounds from Phoenix in 2 attacks (destroyed)

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Phoenix with 3 Life, Angel with 1 Life

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Army Test
Map: Everglades and Evergreens (ARV)
Units: Carrion @155, Harley Quinn (I), Shriek, Carnage (715) vs Cyclops (I), Blink, Phoenix, Angel (Warren), Jubilee (715)

Spoiler Alert!

Ran one more game just to try to get some more data. Played Carrion a little differently and had him run out first and try to rack up a few wounds on a bunch of different figures, to tee em up for Carnage. He had slightly better luck and spread some wounds around before going down.

Carnage managed to clean up after Carrion and Harley did some initial damage, and the Carnage Family won the day.

Unit Summary:

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): 2 wounds to Cyclops in 1 attack, 1 wound to Jubilee in 1 attack, 0 wounds to Blink in 1 attack
• Degenerative Touch: 3 rolls; 1 wound to Cyclops, 1 wound to Jubilee
• Damage Taken: 1 wound from Psionic Blast, 2 wounds from Phoenix in 1 attack, 1 wound from Jubilee in 1 normal attack (destroyed)

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Carnage with 3 Life

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: He's solid as a filler Insane guy. Levitation/Density Control gives him a lot of ability to no-sell enemy shenanigans. Enjoyed the interplay with Shriek and Carnage.

[Karat]

I'm assuming his team was 735 and not 435 in that first test

I'm thinking he's probably good, but I could see dropping him just a hair more to 145 as he seems to be losing more than he's winning and gives them a little more of a points buffer.

[Lazy Orang]

I've just had another look at this guy. Would Tormentor be a valid class for him? He seems to be bringing some horror tropes through with him, and it doesn't seem far off Stalker.

[Ronin]

Stalker is a better fit, I think.

I think he could stand a small drop for sure. Maybe just take him down to 150? Our other two Carnage Family types are 150 and 250.

[MrNobody]

What’s a good estimate on Demogoblin’s points? Feels like a 1,000 point Carnage family build is within reach.

[Ronin]

Probably 1100 would be the target to hit for an even-point build. They can fight the Valiant guys. That puts Carnage at 350 and Demogoblin at 200. Trying to make em work at 1000 would require some lowballing.

[Karat]

Yea, Tormentor is not really one I'm interested in here. Stalker is definitely the better fit. This isn't really a guy who should be running with Demons.

I can buy 150. I propose we move to Final Editing @150

[tcglkn]

yea