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Old November 24th, 2012, 06:45 PM
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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So he could have 40 wounds on his card, but can't be destroyed until the following happens:

1) The Crow Marker is on an opponent's figure's card, the opponent receives one or more wounds, transferring the Crow Marker to this card (but it can go off this card if an opponent's figure destroys one of your figures);

2) The Crow receives one or more wounds, you roll 1-4 on d20, remove all Wound Markers from the card and the Crow Marker from the game.

3) The Crow receives 4 wounds without the Crow Marker in play.

Yikes. I don't know that I'd ever want to play against him.

And you haven't differentiated between common/unique or squad/hero. Does he get the attack die against all the common squad figures if one of them destroys one of your common squad figures?
I can easily add it just for Unique Heroes or something similar.

His durability doesn't seem that bad to me, especially considering he's a practically unkillable character anyway. I'm assuming you can get the theme now, so if you have any suggestions, I'm up for it. Personally I'm not seeing any problem other than he's hard to take out, which he should be.
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Old November 24th, 2012, 06:51 PM
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

I think it should be Unique or Event for placing the crow marker.

Also, you could introduce the marker like this:

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At the start of the game, choose a Unique or Event Hero and place the crow marker on that figure's card. The Crow rolls one additional attack die against the figure with the Crow marker on its card. Whenever one of your figures is destroyed by an opponent’s Unique or Event Hero and the Crow Marker is on this card, you may place the Crow marker on the card of that opponent’s figure.

Also, should The Crow be an Event Hero?

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Old November 24th, 2012, 08:12 PM
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

If he can take limitless wounds and not be destroyed until those certain circumstances are met, I would say yes he should be an Event Hero.

Or maybe he shouldn't be that hard to destroy.

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Old November 24th, 2012, 11:36 PM
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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Or maybe he shouldn't be that hard to destroy.
I believe we have a "bingo."

This guy just doesn't seem like he would be fun to play against.

Also, could Zatanna instant kill him by removing his Crow Marker from play?

There's a lot about the mechanics I just don't understand here ....

I'd rather see something where the presence of the Crow Marker prevents him from taking more than one wound from a single attack (ala Magical Defense).

Also, what's the point of removing all of his wounds right before he's destroyed? That seems like some unnecessary extra mechanics without any game impact, unless I'm missing something.

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Old November 25th, 2012, 01:50 AM
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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Or maybe he shouldn't be that hard to destroy.
I believe we have a "bingo."

This guy just doesn't seem like he would be fun to play against.

Also, could Zatanna instant kill him by removing his Crow Marker from play?

There's a lot about the mechanics I just don't understand here ....

I'd rather see something where the presence of the Crow Marker prevents him from taking more than one wound from a single attack (ala Magical Defense).

Also, what's the point of removing all of his wounds right before he's destroyed? That seems like some unnecessary extra mechanics without any game impact, unless I'm missing something.
The character is literally unkillable until the bird is dead. The point of removing the wounds is because he takes wounds to potentially kill the bird, and if those are still there, he'd be instant killed.

Ugh, my brain is still fried from Manchester. I'll sleep on it. I like the mechanics. Didn't think he was that powerful, especially with his base stats. I dunno, I'm tired.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

Remember, destroying a figure in the game isn't killing them. It's just taking them out of the battle.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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Remember, destroying a figure in the game isn't killing them. It's just taking them out of the battle.
Considering his only "power" is immortality, I'd like to represent that best I can.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

Give me a little bit, I think I might have an ideer.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

I think we could probably go down that same road just tweak the likelihood. Increase the odds of his death.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

Here's a slight touch that makes him a bit more vulnerable. He can't take wounds while his crow marker is on anther army card but while it's on his card, he can. If a 1-4 is rolled, the marker still leaves the game but he can take wounds before that if the marker is on his card. I also changed it to "your crow marker" in case there is more than 1 The Crow in play.

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While your Crow marker is on another Army Card, The Crow will not take any wounds. If the figure with your Crow marker receives 1 or more wounds from an attacking figure, after that figure’s turn, place your Crow marker on this card. While your Crow marker is on this card and The Crow receives 1 or more wounds from an opponent’s attack, roll the 20-sided die. On a 1-4, remove your Crow marker from the game.

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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

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Here's a slight touch that makes him a bit more vulnerable. He can't take wounds while his crow marker is on anther army card but while it's on his card, he can. If a 1-4 is rolled, the marker still leaves the game but he can take wounds before that if the marker is on his card. I also changed it to "your crow marker" in case there is more than 1 The Crow in play.

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While your Crow marker is on another Army Card, The Crow will not take any wounds. If the figure with your Crow marker receives 1 or more wounds from an attacking figure, after that figure’s turn, place your Crow marker on this card. While your Crow marker is on this card and The Crow receives 1 or more wounds from an opponent’s attack, roll the 20-sided die. On a 1-4, remove your Crow marker from the game.
Hey, I really like that. Might not even need to permanently lose the marker then, either (Have to write something so Zatanna can't make him invincible, though).

I'm working on some figures right now (Getting close to being done, Bats. ), but later tonight I'll take a closer look. Awesome.
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Re: The Book of The Crow ~~ Design Phase

In that version, Zatanna doesn't make him invincible because the marker isn't on another Army Card.

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