The Book of Prometheus

[IAmBatman]

Seems worth figuring out, yeah. The negation lasts until the end of the round, though, so it could just be after another Player reveals an Order Marker on a card they control you can choose any of their figures to negate.

[Karat]

"After an opponent reveals an Order Marker on a card they control...."

Bats

[Lord Pyre]

Ooh good call. You have more flexibility then also. Does this look good?

Start the game with 8 Download markers on this card. Once per round, after an opponent reveals an Order Marker on a card they control,before an opponent takes a turn with a Common or Unique figure within 8 spaces of Prometheus, you may choose an opponent's common or unique figure within 8 spaces of Prometheus and immediately place a download marker on the text of a special power on that figures army card. That figure may not use that special power while a Download marker is on that power. At the end of the round remove any of your Download markers on any opponent's Army Cards.

[IAmBatman]

I would specify that it's one of that opponent's figures for the sake of multiplayer. Otherwise looks good.

[Lord Pyre]

Cool, good call. I still have to update the SP here so I'll try to gather all changes.

I'm pretty sure this passes, but I'm in no rush. Want to hit some public stuff first yet before testing this anyway.

[Karat]

You missed a comma in that strike-through. As long as you make sure not to include it, it'll be kosher. Otherwise you'll just have a double comma.

{Edit}Though it looks like you're missing one in the last sentance. It should be "At the end of the round,..."

{Edit}{Edit} I need to stop or I'll just end up FEing the whole card now but "figures card..." should be "...figure's card..."

[Lord Pyre]

Alright looks like I got all of Karat's and Johnny's edits. I didn't split out the double attack since I still don't like the look of it, but again we can debate that stuff as we go on. I'll hit this after some public testing.

[Lord Pyre]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Prometheus

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Prometheus, John Stewart GL, Blockbuster, Atom
Vs.

Fan Four

Spoiler Alert!

R1: Blockbuster chooses Thing for Blackmail. Both teams move, with John carrying all of his team. Prometheus negates Sue’s Force Field. Thing attacks Prometheus, and Prom uses a marker to block a wound. Blockbuster deals 3 wounds to Thing. Torch misses Prom, Thing misses Prom, Reed hits Atom for a wound. Prom hits Thing with blanks, and a normal wound.

R2: Atom misses Red, but jumps on his card. Johnny Flames On, dealing 2 wounds to Prom, Blockbuster, and GL, but takes 3 wounds. Sue misses, and Thing slams Prom, but he uses a marker to cut it down to only 1 wound. Reed misses Blockbuster. Prom attacks, and Johnny and Thing both completely whiff defense. Sue and Reed miss. Blockbuster hits Reed for 3 wounds, dropping Atom off of him.

R3: Sue, being negated, has 0 defense, so Prom obliterates her. Reed misses, and Blockbuster takes out Reed.



Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Prometheus with 3 wounds, Blockbuster and GL with 2 wounds, and Atom with 1 wound. .

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Prometheus, Graviton, Mar-Vell (1200)

Vs.

Magneto 2, Mystique 2, Blob, Archangel, Avalanche, Destiny (1210)

Spoiler Alert!

R1: Both teams move with little else happening.

R2: Prom stops Mag’s Magnetic Assault. Mags misses Prom with a normal attack. Prom attacks Mags, and Reactionary Combat deals a wound. Archangel misses his Wing Slashes, but deals 3 wounds to Marvel with his normal attack! Marvel misses Archangel. Blob engages Prom, and Prom uses a marker to block the attack. Graviton throws Magneto and deals him a wound.

R3: Prom negates Blob’s Blubber. Prom attacks Blob, dealing a wound with RC but that’s it. Magneto throws Graviton for a wound. Marvel deals 3 wounds to Blob. Blob hits Prom for 2 wounds, but is killed by RC! Grav deals a wound to Angel. Mags’ Throw is stopped by Grav. Mystique misses Grav.

R4: Prom negates Mystique’s Outcast Assault, then deals 2 wounds to her. Grav stops Angel from moving, but he deals 2 wounds to Grav with his normal attack. Marvel misses Mystique.Angel deals a wound to Grav with his Wing Slash. Mystique brutally kills Graviton!

R5: Prom negates Mystique’s Outcast Assault. Prom deals 2 wounds to Mystique. MAgneto throws Marvel twice and kills him! Angel deals 2 wounds to Prom. Prom kills Mystique.

R6: Prom negates Magnetic Assault. Prom deals 2 wounds to Angel. Prom is throwing around many autowounds, but too slowly.

R7: Prom negates Magnetic Assault. Prom burns his last marker to protect from Mags’ normal attack. Angel finally finishes Prom.
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Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Magneto with 4 wounds, Angel with 3 wounds, Avalanche with 1 wound, and Destiny with 0 wounds.

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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Prometheus, Commander Rogers, Nebula, Ragdoll

Vs.

X-Men

Spoiler Alert!

R1: Both teams move, Rogers blocks an attack from Iceman. Prometheus shoots Iceman for a wound. Nebula moves, carrying Ragdoll and shoots Iceman for a wound.

R2: Iceman misses Rogers. Prom deals a wound to Iceman with blanks. Cyclops deals a wound to Prom, and Beast deals 2! Rogers hits Beast for 3 wounds.Cyclops misses Prom.Jean stops Prom from moving, and he kills Beast.

R3:Prom uses a marker to block Cyclops, and Jean throws him but doesn’t deal any wounds.Prom negates Psychic Defense, but misses him. So does Nebula. Cyclops deals 3 wounds to Ragdoll, and 1 to Nebula. Rogers takes 2 wounds from LEA to get near Prof X, dealing 2 wounds, and Angel flies Cyclops away from Rogers.Cyclops misses Prom. Prom deals 1 wound to Prof X.

R4: Cyclops commands Iceman to move, blocking off Height, and shoots Nebula for a wound. Rogers kills Prof. X. Jean throws Prom for a wound. Prom can’t move because of Jean, but he shoots and kills Iceman. Cyclops misses Prom. Jean stops Prom again, and he shoots Jean for a wound.

R5: Prom stops Psionic Grip since it’s getting obnoxious, then Rogers gets next to Jean and kills her. Cyclops hits Rogers for a wound. Prom deals two wounds to Angel, then Angel flies Cyclops out of the mob. Cyclops misses both Rogers and Prom. Prom shoots Cyclops for a wound. Cyclops then kills Ragdoll, deals a wound to Prom, and 3 to Nebula!

R6: Prom shuts down Optic Blast. Cyclops misses Nebula. Rogers deals 2 to Cyclops. Rogers kills Cyclops, and Angel falls shortly after.
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Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Prometheus with 5 wounds and 1 marker left, Commander Rogers with 3 wounds, and Nebula with 5 wounds.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
I’m loving him. I feel pretty good around 400. I could see him going up or down depending on matchups. He wants to be in your face to maximize Reactionary Combat, but he’s still sturdy enough by spending markers for shields. Really doesn’t seem overpowered, since the opponent can easily work around losing a single power for the most part. Obviously the FF is pretty crippled without Sue’s shield, but the first game Prometheus also had double attack which I cut for the second two games. He’s very draftable and fits into any sort of army as a beefy support piece.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
I’m very happy with him! He makes for some really “thinky” and kinetic games, as you and your opponent have to play around his negation power, which he can activate at any time depending on your opponent’s strategies. Spending markers to try to get blanks or shields is very fun, since you want to conserve them, as the longer the game goes, the bigger chance that Prometheus will run out of tricks. Still good with 8 markers here, as he’s only had 1 left on his two wins!

[Lord Pyre]

Got a start here. Before these tests I ran some heavy hitters again Superman II, with the results being just about 50/50.

For test 1, I planned on Prometheus shutting down Invisible Woman completely. He did that, but what I saw was that he was an absolute beast in combat. The Thing was scared to go up against him. It didn't feel right to me, so I completely cut the double attack.

Test 2 was a GREAT game. Prometheus had to choose where to place his marker each round, with Mystique being the obvious choice, but Magneto's autowounds were a huge problem. Also having to balance when to use your markers is really fun. Do I change to a blank for an autowound, or to a shield to block that point of damage? Very kinetic and very fun.

So far I'm great at 400. My next test I'll team him up with Commander Rogers, I think. Otherwise I'm not quite sure.

Also we talked about some timing and wording issues with Reactionary Combat on discord, so we'll have to hash that out too.

[IAmBatman]

Looking good! I'm excited for this one.

[Yodaking]

You talked about changing the trigger so you could negate someone at the start of the round when you won or lost initiative, but I don't see that update to the SP. Have you changed your mind on that then? Personally I'm against it, their should be a sliver of time there when your opponent can act fast enough to get in 1 use of a power before it gets shut down for the round. Although that makes more sense when your opponent wins initiative instead of when you win it. So I'd change the timing so that you get to place your markers when you reveal a #ed OM on any card you control. Win initiative, shut them down. Lose initiative, they get one action in before you can shut them down.

[Lord Pyre]

I was changing it to whenever any OM is revealed, I just forgot to update. Got it now! Also was considering requiring just having an OM on his card to activate it. Just in case it combos too well. Not really a detriment since I've been having markers on his card every round anyway, but it's something that most powers like this have.

He's definitely not overpowered this way, and giving an opponent a "chance" isn't really what this guy is meant to do. He messes with you when he wants to. It feels really good, and cutting the double attack was very much needed. He felt too much like a bruiser and not as "smart." He does now!