Heroscape: Age of Annihilation is here! Back it on Haslab!

[bishopbeowolf]

Whoop! It's back baby! and so am I, lol.

Gosh, did I hate it when it was officially discontinued. It really killed my spirit for the game and I had just started dipping my toes into the custom creation side. I was a long time lurker slowly emerging out of my shell.

It's the game I first really enjoyed, deep-dived, and collected. I saw it at Walmart and took a chance. I introduced all my buddies to it. Played it weekly while in school. It is heavily attached to the nostalgia of my college years and formed the base of my board game pursuits and standards afterward.

IMHO, Heroscape sits at this wonderful juncture point of where board games and war games collide. It had easy access both in playing and purchase availability. It was strategic and not overbearing in rules. Pre-painted and low buy-in. Wonderful online community. Honestly, a unicorn game due to the factors for when it came into existence and what it offered. It was a bridge type game.

I, like many, am bummed about the pre-painted aspect but I'm here. It's brought me back to life. I'm ready to support the revitalization of the game. I'm hoping for the best while trying to be realistic with what's possible in the current climate.

Just this last week, I introduced the game to some college students (I live in a college town) and boy, were they hooked on the game even after losing their first match. If done right, I can say it will catch on to a whole new generation of potential players who will fall it love with it just like I did.

Overall, I'm 90% hyped and 10% apprehensive and I don't think that's a bad place to be at all

[Master Roshi]

Originally Posted by bishopbeowolf

Whoop! It's back baby! and so am I, lol.

Gosh, did I hate it when it was officially discontinued. It really killed my spirit for the game and I had just started dipping my toes into the custom creation side. I was a long time lurker slowly emerging out of my shell.

It's the game I first really enjoyed, deep-dived, and collected. I saw it at Walmart and took a chance. I introduced all my buddies to it. Played it weekly while in school. It is heavily attached to the nostalgia of my college years and formed the base of my board game pursuits and standards afterward.

IMHO, Heroscape sits at this wonderful juncture point of where board games and war games collide. It had easy access both in playing and purchase availability. It was strategic and not overbearing in rules. Pre-painted and low buy-in. Wonderful online community. Honestly, a unicorn game due to the factors for when it came into existence and what it offered. It was a bridge type game.

I, like many, am bummed about the pre-painted aspect but I'm here. It's brought me back to life. I'm ready to support the revitalization of the game. I'm hoping for the best while trying to be realistic with what's possible in the current climate.

Just this last week, I introduced the game to some college students (I live in a college town) and boy, were they hooked on the game even after losing their first match. If done right, I can say it will catch on to a whole new generation of potential players who will fall it love with it just like I did.

Overall, I'm 90% hyped and 10% apprehensive and I don't think that's a bad place to be at all

Yeah everyone I've introduced the game to has liked it and been eager to play again. One plus is that since the terrain will still be painted like the old content, then it will still have some of that wow factor that we saw back in the day. A new player may see this box on the shelf or in a pic online and be intrigued by the map that is built, regardless of whether or not the figure is painted

[foofoofun]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

"Do you want to buy this new toy? It's similar to an old toy you like but there are some changes."

"How much more do you want me to sacrifice!? Before, when you were offering me nothing, I was free from cruel torture like this."

Really?

It’s my emotional reaction there is no logically explaining it, in-fact to try and rationalize it would just make my message contradict itself as I try to force my mixed emotions into nonsensical rational arguments.

To use to the toy analogy, “there was nothing wrong with the old toy, and I’m upset that I have to choose between the new toy and no toy at all. In a fair world I wouldn’t have to make that choice, I’d have the old toy.”

You can claim it’s silly, but I would frame it as honesty. I want people to understand that there’s a real chance that if I don’t pick up this new heroscape it’s not due to some decision made by the current team, but an emotional choice on my part that’s much more complex and that it might not have a possible solution. I understand that a number of the people working on the game are potentially gonna be reading this and I don’t want to give the impression that they could of made a choice that would’ve effected my decision. The truth is I have negative emotional memories with heroscape and my viewpoint of the new heroscape will be impacted by that. That’s all there is to it.

[IAmBatman]

I mean, I get that people are going to be irrational and emotional about this. As long as y'all are owning it, I guess it is what it is.

[Hogg]

Originally Posted by bishopbeowolf

I'm hoping for the best while trying to be realistic with what's possible in the current climate.

I just want to remind everyone again, that during the 12 years HeroScape has been discontinued, Wizkids has been making appropriately priced, pre-painted Heroclix minis the entire time and have released thousands of figures during HS's break. It is clearly not impossible, Hasbro is making a choice.

[Talyn]

Right, and its not a surprising choice given their recent actions. They've been cutting budgets on Transformers for years, making them smaller for higher prices. Unfortunately its the business model they like and that apparently works for them.

[IAmBatman]

We have on authority that the master set would cost in the neighborhood of $400 prepainted. I for one think they should just offer that option to y'all and be done with it. But overall I'd say lets chill with the painted/unpainted talk here on the forums. Y'all can haunt Facebook with that.

[bishopbeowolf]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Y'all can haunt Facebook with that.

Agreed

[DOAisBetter]

Originally Posted by Riku4470

just a quick thought i am surprised no one is accounting for the cost of all the paint materials needed. Like that is a huge downside. Thankfully i have alot of that stuff from warhammer but im not excited about painting. i got a huge back log as is. Not trying to complain im glad that games back but my hype for the product went down considerably. I hope it will come with a bunch of terrain or something or come with the paints. I was thinking and hoping that they arent trying to make there own overpriced warhammer version of heroscape.

The cost of all the painting materials is very low unless you decide to make it more expensive than it needs to be. I also paint Warhammer and my daily driver for brushes is a $7 pack from Walmart that lasts a long time. To prime the minis a $5 can of light gray or white primer that works on plastic is perfect. Paints you can get a $7 set of apple barrel craft paints again from Walmart that cover pretty much all colors. Then you just need to go to a local hobby store and buy a cheap wash like army painter dark tone which should be less than $5. The only additional buy I would consider is a spray on varnish which from my limited research would also run you $5.

So everything you need can be bought for $30 plus tax which isn't a huge investment. Worst case scenario you hate painting give the paints and brushes to your kids, or young relatives.

I get people not wanting to paint but the cost to paint the minis weighs far more on your time than your wallet.

[Master Roshi]

Originally Posted by DOAisBetter

The cost of all the painting materials is very low unless you decide to make it more expensive than it needs to be. I also paint Warhammer and my daily driver for brushes is a $7 pack from Walmart that lasts a long time. To prime the minis a $5 can of light gray or white primer that works on plastic is perfect. Paints you can get a $7 set of apple barrel craft paints again from Walmart that cover pretty much all colors. Then you just need to go to a local hobby store and buy a cheap wash like army painter dark tone which should be less than $5. The only additional buy I would consider is a spray on varnish which from my limited research would also run you $5.

So everything you need can be bought for $30 plus tax which isn't a huge investment. Worst case scenario you hate painting give the paints and brushes to your kids, or young relatives.

I get people not wanting to paint but the cost to paint the minis weighs far more on your time than your wallet.

I've never tried a varnish before myself. What's the benefit of using it? Is it purely to protect the paitnjob, or does it provide some aesthetic quality?

[Tritzix]

Originally Posted by Master Roshi

I've never tried a varnish before myself. What's the benefit of using it? Is it purely to protect the paitnjob, or does it provide some aesthetic quality?

Matte varnish is what most people use. Adds a protective clear coat that prevents paint chipping.

[Riku4470]

i mean ya thats the extreme low end but when would it ever end at 30 dollars? thats not realistic. Also the minis would look like crap from the paint you described its to thick. At the vary least you would need to get modeling paint. Like army painter or something. Vallejo is alright too. Seeing how big that large dragon is it would be a pain in the butt to use a paintbrush on that. Air brushes save a lot of time on things like that. I wonder how many products they plan on releasing. They did say there is a Release schedule they cant talk about. Like personal time is important too. I just hate how painting minis turns into a part time job or at least that what it feels like.

I did see one guy mention contrast paints, perhaps that would be a good route to go. Those save alot of time too if anyones interested but those cost like 8 bucks a color i think.