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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

Test results from Shaolin.
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Bolivar Trask

Army Test
Map: Road Rampage
Units: Trask@100, 4 Troopers, 3 Sentinels (700) vs TMNT (700)
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Army Test
Map: Road Rampage
Units: Trask@110, 3 Trooper, 3 Sentinels (680) vs Colossus, Nightcrawler, and Wolverine (680)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: On his own, pretty useless. That’s intentional I’m sure. He isn’t too expensive and you can surround yourself with a large army with various bonding powers. I think it’s roght on point for cost.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: This one is fairly straightforward: are you playing against mutants? If so, you will shred them. If not, good luck.
I definitely think I'd be comfortable moving forward with him at 105-115 depending on what we want to hit. I think I like the 110 value allowing you 9 MRD, 2 Sentinels, and Trask for a 700 point build.

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Old April 12th, 2019, 09:27 PM
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

I would lean towards 100, but would yea at 100 or 110.

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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

@japes what do you think?
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

We should move this along without waiting on Japes, it doesn't look like he has the time at the moment. Do the new tests help resolve anything for those who weren't ready to vote before?
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

Yea, I'd be good going forward.
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

I think I'll call for the vote at 120 then.
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

What's the thinking for 120? I'm seeing 100-110 from the tests.

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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

Shaolin's 2nd game vs. mutants was a pretty big win at 110. It was without maximizing what Trask and the MDR can do, since only 3 MDR were drafted but Trask can move 6 at once and the MDR can attack Mutants with 4 at once. So a pretty impressive victory.

Looking at the details, the MDR managed to negate Wolverine at the start of a round and then they stomped him while he couldn't heal or rage out. Colossus went down after that to double Sentinel turns. Since Trask boosts the negate roll and grants the double turns, he seems to be able to impact the army in a significant way.

Shaolin's loss @100 was vs the TMNT, which are not mutants. No mutants at all hurts the MDR, who only get 2 attack per turn instead of 4 vs. mutants and can't negate non-mutants, so the loss isn't too surprising there.

We waited for more tests and those tests, combined with the realization that I was playing the Sentinels at 180 instead of 160 in my tests, has me thinking his value is plausible at 120.
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

Yeah, I am agreed on logic here for 120. The flexibility is worth it given the army really is only effective against Mutants from the get-go.

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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

I own 4 Sentinels and 8 MRD so I had originally intended Track to be 120 or 90 and throw in an extra MRD. So if 120 or 90 can be justified it would be wonderful.

Thanks to YK for not letting this die for me. Sorry I'm still trying to weather my storm here.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

Actually, it was played at 120. I feel it's a little on the high side, but not bad.
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Re: Book of Bolivar Trask (Playtesting Phase)

No need to apologize, take care of your wife and home. We'll keep things moving here.
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