Goliath

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Should this be "after Goliath uses an attack action"?

Yup, I'll update OP

Originally Posted by Ronin

I'd probably let MCR (funny initialism) move any OMs to his card and not just unrevealed ones. Doesn't seem like the distinction matters and it's shorter to not specify.

Sounds good to me

Originally Posted by Ronin

I admittedly like "figures as markers" stuff but it might be cleaner for him to just use markers? Avoids conflicts if multiple cards are trying to do stuff with figures.

I'm fine either way, whatever people think is best here.

Originally Posted by Ronin

Cool design.

Thanks

[japes]

Originally Posted by Arch-vile

yea

Looks like all the current Gargoyles add up to 1100 points. Would be interested to see if there are any other round point totals the Gargoyles can get to.

See below from the faction thread

Originally Posted by japes

Roughly I could see...

The mini pack at 600 would be a nice goal

Goliath at 300

Eliza at 100

Hudson at 200

Bronx at 100

would be pretty ideal.

Mini Pack = 600
Goliath + Hudson + Eliza = 600
Goliath + Hudson + Bronx = 600


Mini Pack + Goliath + Eliza = 1000
Mini Pack + Goliath + Bronx = 1000


all kinds of combos to get 700, 800, 900, 1100, 1200, 1300 as well

[IAmBatman]

I had a thought on this last night - would it make any sense to move Broadway to 200 and Brooklyn to 250 and Lexington to 150 just to make mixing and matching easier here?

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I had a thought on this last night - would it make any sense to move Broadway to 200 and Brooklyn to 250 and Lexington to 150 just to make mixing and matching easier here?

Their costs were designed for theme more than mixing. The Trio often (as in always) are a group to themselves. But I'd be fine with this change too.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by fret_gurglo

Their costs were designed for theme more than mixing. The Trio often (as in always) are a group to themselves. But I'd be fine with this change too.

The trio would still work at 600 with that change, right (assuming I'm right about who the trio is). It'd just let Hudson and Goliath combine with them more easily in 1000 point builds once at least one 100 point character is done.

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

The trio would still work at 600 with that change, right (assuming I'm right about who the trio is). It'd just let Hudson and Goliath combine with them more easily in 1000 point builds once at least one 100 point character is done.

I'm ok with the change. Do I have to have a vote in each of their threads for the point adjustment?

[fret_gurglo]

And Ronin suggested using markers in place of figures for Goliath. Does anyone have a preference one way or the other?

[IAmBatman]

I kind of like figures and don't mind it conflicting with other such abilities, but not a huge deal for me either way.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by fret_gurglo

I'm ok with the change. Do I have to have a vote in each of their threads for the point adjustment?

Might need to, yeah. Consider me a pre-yea for each if you do.

[japes]

Made my comment in Broadway's thread about the point change.

[IAmBatman]

It'd mostly impact how Broadway felt outside of Gargoyle builds. So I guess the question is how playable he is as a non-Gargoyle piece.

Fwiw Hudson feels better than Broadway to me.

[Lord Pyre]

Brooklyn really isn't worth his points, he just works in the build. So moving him up and Broadway down seems backwards. If we need a change (Which I guess I don't understand why they do?) I'd prefer going the other way around. Drop Brooklyn and raise Broadway, if necessary.