New 52 And DC Rebirth Workshop

[ALEXAN2507]

I'll leave The Drowned for last- she's the one we all seem to have most disagreement on rn so let's clear up the other 5 first

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Ronin

I'm iffy on the Dispel mechanic just because it's potentially a lot of rolling, and it gets more nightmarish against figures with multiple d20 rolls (like Aquakinesis).

The last sentence is a no-go for me - using Aquakinesis in the middle of another figure's turn is way too disruptive, and it weirdly gives Aquakinesis the potential to disrupt itself. (Use Aquakinesis, try to move Jean, Jean rolls for Psionic Grip, you beat her roll and get to use Aquakinesis again...)

I'll have some updated thoughts on the updated designs in a bit.

Those points about Psionic Grip are fair enough - hadn't thought of that. You're also right about it being too many D20 rolls - just had an idea and didn't think it through enough. I just thought using an instead of attacking power reactively would be fine since there are so many instead of moving powers that you can use reactively.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

I couldn't see why not - it was retroactively changed to affect Magical Defence figures, after all.

Missed this before, but I'd be fine with that - if it were more widespread, I'd be iffy on it, but it's a power only three cards have.

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

Those points about Psionic Grip are fair enough - hadn't thought of that. You're also right about it being too many D20 rolls - just had an idea and didn't think it through enough. I just thought using an instead of attacking power reactively would be fine since there are so many instead of moving powers that you can use reactively.

I'm potentially okay with a reactive "instead of attacking" power. Really just the particular combination of criteria and power here that I wanted to speak to.

[Ronin]

Okay, so updated thoughts on the new drafts (now that I've done some reading up)

Originally Posted by ALEXAN2507

NAME = THE BATMAN WHO LAUGHS

Amazo is an Event Hero because there's a lot of pressure on high-end Androids to be Event due to Mad Thinker (we're working on that, though). Also because it means he's tough enough to tackle a couple Leaguers.

Honestly, I'd still push Problems to Solve even simpler. Like, something on the order of this:

Before each attack with The Batman Who Laughs, you may choose one special power on the defending figure's Army Card. That figure may not use that special power when defending against this attack.

I just think it has a little much going on right now, and tying it too much to his normal attack makes the SA a little less usable.

Originally Posted by ALEXAN2507

NAME = BATMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = THE RED DEATH

After reading, I still think I'd go "The Red Death (Bruce Wayne)" as the naming convention for these guys.

I'm not sure if he really needs a power to represent Barry's influence on him - I didn't see Barry ever get Bruce to do anything, just interject to no avail.

And 2 auto-wounds is still a really meaty hit. The Cosmic Control Rod is pretty nasty and it only has a 15% chance of hitting for 2 wounds, when wielded by Annihilus. (That is, admittedly, in addition to attacking rather than instead of). 3 wounds is just an awful lot to do at once - I'd rather see the roll come down or the downside eliminated than keep the roll high and have it hit for 3 wounds.

Originally Posted by ALEXAN2507

NAME = BATMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = THE MERCILESS

You're right, he is meant to have SS- though I'm not 100% sure on flying? The helmet is meant to give him Ares full Olympian god powers so it'd make sense, but I can't remember if he's ever actually shown being able to fly.

I was keeping an eye out for it and I didn't see him fly either - I'd probably just skip it.

[IAmBatman]

Amazo's also an event hero because he traditionally takes on large parts of the Justice League and facing him tends to be on "event" levels. He's also particularly hard to destroy and mind control by enemies.

[LordVenoc]

Here's one I've been working on a bit, from the New Age of Heroes. He's looking like he may show up in the new season of Young Justice as well.

NAME = BRIMSTONE
SECRET IDENTITY = JOSEPH CHAMBERLAIN
SPECIES = DEMON
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CREATURE
PERSONALITY = VENGEFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 220

CREATURE OF HELLFIRE
Brimstone may cast Spells with Hellfire in the name as if he had the Magical Defense special power. While Brimstone is casting a Spell, whenever a special power on an Army Card or glyph refers to the Magical Defense special power, it refers to this special power as well.

EVERYTHING BURNS
Before taking a turn with Brimstone, you must roll 1 unblockable attack die against all figures adjacent to him.

MAGIC RESISTANCE
When Brimstone is attacked by an opponent's figure that has the Magical Defense special power, the most wounds Brimstone can take for this attack is one.

SUPER STRENGTH

[ALEXAN2507]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

Here's one I've been working on a bit, from the New Age of Heroes. He's looking like he may show up in the new season of Young Justice as well.

I like Curse Of Brimstone a lot, so I'm definitely pleased to see a design for him

[MrNobody]

Cool! I like the idea of a more robust spell-caster. (even if he’s just a hellfire one) Don’t know the character, but he looks fun.

Does anyone have any ideas for Jack Napier from White Knight?

[LordVenoc]

Essentially he's a teenager who accidentally makes a deal with a (unbeknownst to him at the time) devil to "put his (dying) town on the map." This devil turns him into Brimstone with the purpose of destroying the town, giving it recognition for the supernatural demise the devil tried to bring about.

After this, Joe goes traveling across the nation hunting down this devil to take him down.

[japes]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

Here's one I've been working on a bit, from the New Age of Heroes. He's looking like he may show up in the new season of Young Justice as well.

Very interesting. I think I like it.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by LordVenoc

Essentially he's a teenager who accidentally makes a deal with a (unbeknownst to him at the time) devil to "put his (dying) town on the map." This devil turns him into Brimstone with the purpose of destroying the town, giving it recognition for the supernatural demise the devil tried to bring about.

After this, Joe goes traveling across the nation hunting down this devil to take him down.

So did he actually kill everyone in his hometown? Cause that’s pretty dark.