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Re: The Book of Zombie
Army Test: Zombie + Lex Luthor (Business Suit) + Superman (400) + Eradicator + Krypto + Hired Guns + Bodyguard x5 (1185) vs. Ms. Marvel + Martian Manhunter + Valkyrie + Angel + Ragdoll (1190)
Map: Mayberry with standard online event E-glyphs 3-wound Superman, Lex, 3 Bodyguards, 3 Hired Guns Zombie didn't inflict a single wound, but absorbed two of the best attacks Manhunter and Ms. Marvel dished out before dying. Hired Guns were relatively ineffective due to the range on the other team, Ms Marvel's "best defense", Angel's movement, and MM's intangibility. But forcing the Ms. Marvel build to grind through Krypto and zombie, plus bodyguards and lex clogging things, and Eradicator's SA + Healing, collectively bought Supes enough time to pile up the needed wounds on the three big hitters. Planning on rolling this one back one more time. Last edited by dok; October 16th, 2014 at 11:39 AM. |
#122
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Re: The Book of Zombie
My thoughts right now - is this a big enough concern that we shouldn't include him in the release on Halloween? If necessary we can just do Dracula (and his Brides?), then push him and Brother Voodoo back a bit.
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#123
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Re: The Book of Zombie
Oh wow, I didn't know we were operating on a deadline here!
I can try to get my roll-back test done by Saturday at the latest. But for argument's sake let's say zombie shows strong there. Here are my thoughts:
One possible way to deal with this without tweaking price would be to add sidekick-ish language to the amulet. EQUIPMENT GLYPHThen it can't stack an activation on top of other stuff. AFAICT this would not have impacted testing results. |
#124
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Re: The Book of Zombie
Actually, I see that Doc Glock did test with Luke Cage combos. Not really the strongest zombie sink among bonding figures, but he can do the job.
I'm not super super concerned about zombie, but if released as-is I feel like he's going to be a throw-in for a LOT of armies, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. |
#125
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Re: The Book of Zombie
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".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above Cambridge if sometimes in its box of sky lavender and cornerless, the moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy" |
#126
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Re: The Book of Zombie
I think he's well worth the 120 after that change.
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#127
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Re: The Book of Zombie
That seems to really be the standard for this sort of thing. In the tests I used him in (not for him, but for other Undead testing) I don't think I ever realized you COULD stack turns like that, and he was still in the ballpark. I wouldn't object.
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#128
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Re: The Book of Zombie
I can go along with that as well.
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#129
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Re: Zombie - Design Phase
OK, so, here is where I am:
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#130
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Re: Zombie - Design Phase
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Were you still considering the same cost? |
#131
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Re: The Book of Zombie
Singular is fine, yeah.
I think same cost, or as much as 10 higher (for the first change, which saves you an early OM). That way we're basically relying on the existing playtests and just closing the potential for stacking zombie on other multi-activation builds (which wasn't tested very much). EDIT: I spoke with Dysole and he was OK with Zombie as-is. Last edited by dok; October 21st, 2014 at 05:43 PM. |
#132
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Re: The Book of Zombie
Yeah, I think this is mostly just closing holes. Less re-evaluating so much as bringing the text in-line with intent.
I'd be comfortable leaving him as-is points-wise, but if the Comp Team wants a bump I'd support it. JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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