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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
Thanks for the tests!
I'd be interested in who wins 1 on 1 fights between the two, based on your comparisons. I'd give Kitana's setup the edge personally, but it seems you're thinking the other way around. Regardless, I would gladly see her points drop to the 170-175 range if playtesting warrants it. That's what I estimated her thematic value at, so I'd rather see it go closer to that than go up. We'll see what other results entail. |
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
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#63
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Breathing)
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An important caveat to the above is that when you can smuggle in some class/species synergies (especially bonding) into a Star-Lord build it can be powerful. In this case the only solid Star-Lord eligible synergies she has are humans (Masahiro and Kingpin). There's a long list of human figures that allow for multiple turns in S-L builds - Amanda Waller, Bucky, Kingpin, Masahiro, Iron Man Mk5, The Hood, Two Face 2, Yukio, Casey Jones, Robin (Damian/Dick), Mad Thinker. It's common enough that it's not a major concern. The flip side to the above point is that bonding in a Star-Lord build that doesn't eat the human slot (Rover, Robot, Zombie, Harley Quinn, MM2) is rare; these are the ones where you definitely want to test with S-L. Last edited by Ronin; March 6th, 2019 at 01:15 PM. Reason: keeping some design details secret |
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
Any army recommendations here? I would like to do some public playtesting this week, and Kitana is the oldest unit up to bat that doesn't have a lot of tests already in the works.
EDIT: Also, I've been seeing a lot of playtests coming through with extremely small sized games (350-600 points). Is this normal now? The last time I heavily playtested, around 1000 was super standard for all testing, and we never dipped below 750 for pretty much anything. Like Superheroes and Comics?
C3G Project is Always Looking for New Members! Head here to get started! Playtesting is the most helpful thing! |
#65
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
Depends on the figure. For the lower point figures, lower point armies are much better.
It is easy to lose the effectiveness of a low point figure in big games. The 300+ figures really need the bigger games to have the points to build around them. I generally shoot for around 600-1000 myself. I would try at least one match with a Hand Ninja build. |
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
I'm generally shooting for smaller tests when I can both to keep it more focussed and so I can better find the time! There are certainly plenty of times when larger games are needed, but a lot of the time, I like to go smaller. I sometimes run one game at a smaller level to follow it up with a 1,000 range game.
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
I usually like to run at least ~450? Any smaller than that, and I worry about whether I'm diverging too much from typical battle conditions. Generally, though, my advice is to go as small as you can while still allowing the possibility for the unit to work at its peak effectiveness. That way, it's easier to isolate the effect the test unit is having.
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
Here we are! Please see my end notes for some questions about wording and intent, and my thoughts on her in general.
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Like Superheroes and Comics?
C3G Project is Always Looking for New Members! Head here to get started! Playtesting is the most helpful thing! |
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
Thanks for the tests! Appreciated!
The first attack has to be in melee, then she can attack again from melee or range. Doesn't have to be against the same figure, and she can definitely move after the first and/or second attack. Basically, she can expend her full movement at any point. This allows her to hit in melee, then from range, hoping to get the opponent to re-engage her making Fan Lift possible again. |
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Public Playtest)
Looking over the tests, I'm pretty happy with her finishing at 185. I think with her going 2-2 after the drop in life, and in her most dominant win, it looks like she wasn't the biggest factor that led to the win. With 1 tester suggesting a small point drop, and another suggesting a small point raise, I feel with both sets combined, 185 feels reasonable as-is.
I propose a vote to move Kitana to Final Editing. @japes @Ronin @Yodaking - yea @Spidey'tilIDie @Tornado - yea @johnny139 - yea @SirGalahad Last edited by Arkham; June 26th, 2018 at 10:39 AM. |
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Re: The Book of Kitana (Vote for Final Editing)
yea
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