The Spellbook of Healing Energy

[Spidey'tilIDie]

@Yodaking , If I'm reading you correctly, you don't necessarily feel its worth its point right now. Is that correct? Maybe it should have a chance to heal 2 wounds? Would that help? What are your thoughts on this, @Lazy Orang ?

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Spidey'tilIDie

@Yodaking , If I'm reading you correctly, you don't necessarily feel its worth its point right now. Is that correct? Maybe it should have a chance to heal 2 wounds? Would that help? What are your thoughts on this, @Lazy Orang ?

I feel like something like that would probably up its power level to a range I don't want to go - this is meant to be a basic, low level healing spell, not anything major. I think, dropped a tad to 20, it would definitely have its uses, especially if you're able to take a turn with someone other than just the caster (Mutants with Selene and Wanda, Ms. Marvel with anyone, Titans with Raven and Tempest, even Odin with Karnilla or Enchantess, etc.) - it's not a super-powerful spell, but it's a nice utility one. If we wanted a more expensive, higher-level 'Major Healing' spell down the line (something I, being someone who has played a CRPG and who is interested in playing more, would definitely support) which heals two wounds and is possibly Unique, that would be cool, but this is meant to be a bog standard 'Minor Healing' (again, to use RPG-esque terminology), and I don't really want it to be that power-level.

[japes]

The issue is that in some instances 5 points could make it not worth using and in some cases 50 may be worth it. At two wounds healed it would always be worth something since even if you lose your attack to use it and get hit by your opponent again on the next OM you still come out ahead.

[Yodaking]

I'm fine with it as is at 20 points. Everyone has a different play style and so I'm sure others will find it more desirable than I do. I tend to be a rather aggressive player who prefers to go on offense as often as possible, hoping to roll that all skull attack and watch my opponent whiff on defense. So for me, giving up your attack is a high price to pay and my figures are usually deep in the fight when the need for healing comes up. Other players are more cautious and defensive (ie. pod play) in nature. For those players giving up an attack to heal won't be as big of a deal.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by japes

The issue is that in some instances 5 points could make it not worth using and in some cases 50 may be worth it. At two wounds healed it would always be worth something since even if you lose your attack to use it and get hit by your opponent again on the next OM you still come out ahead.

Assuming the opponent is only inflicting one wound per successful attack - which actually is the case with MD figures most of the time, but that's another reason not to go that route, as I don't want to encourage just casting it on yourself all the time. I want that to be an option, not the default. If we ever went for Major Healing, I'd be tempted to drop self-heal.
In my experience playing this spell, it has never felt even close to being worth 50 points. Even if you aren't hit right back, your still losing out, however slightly, on activations and momentum. This isn't a Mesmerise scenario where casting it's a free action, and that needs to be considered. 20 feels about right to me, in my experience.

Originally Posted by Yodaking

I'm fine with it as is at 20 points. Everyone has a different play style and so I'm sure others will find it more desirable than I do. I tend to be a rather aggressive player who prefers to go on offense as often as possible, hoping to roll that all skull attack and watch my opponent whiff on defense. So for me, giving up your attack is a high price to pay and my figures are usually deep in the fight when the need for healing comes up. Other players are more cautious and defensive (ie. pod play) in nature. For those players giving up an attack to heal won't be as big of a deal.

I'm not a pod player, but I still found it somewhat useful. Basically, I'd generally use it in a build where I'm getting multiple turns per OM (like a Mutant, Ms. Marvel or Titan build) and cast it on my main aggressor to keep them going longer. I can definitely see giving up Wanda's attack to heal Magneto when he's wrecking house.

Honestly, I'm happy with it as-is at 20 - the removal of the OM restriction really helped my issues with it, and I like it as a nice little utility spell that won't really blow your mind. I'll be proposing a vote for FE in the morning.

[japes]

Originally Posted by Lazy Orang

Assuming the opponent is only inflicting one wound per successful attack - which actually is the case with MD figures most of the time, but that's another reason not to go that route, as I don't want to encourage just casting it on yourself all the time. I want that to be an option, not the default. If we ever went for Major Healing, I'd be tempted to drop self-heal.
In my experience playing this spell, it has never felt even close to being worth 50 points. Even if you aren't hit right back, your still losing out, however slightly, on activations and momentum. This isn't a Mesmerise scenario where casting it's a free action, and that needs to be considered. 20 feels about right to me, in my experience.

I'm not a pod player, but I still found it somewhat useful. Basically, I'd generally use it in a build where I'm getting multiple turns per OM (like a Mutant, Ms. Marvel or Titan build) and cast it on my main aggressor to keep them going longer. I can definitely see giving up Wanda's attack to heal Magneto when he's wrecking house.

Honestly, I'm happy with it as-is at 20 - the removal of the OM restriction really helped my issues with it, and I like it as a nice little utility spell that won't really blow your mind. I'll be proposing a vote for FE in the morning.

If it works for you then I'm fine with it as well. Doesn't have to be drafted by everyone. Pre-Yea for me.

[Lazy Orang]

I propose moving to Final Editing at 20 Points!

@japes - Yea
@Ronin - Yea
@Arkham - Yea
@Viegon - Yea
@Yodaking - Yea
@johnny139 -

[Ronin]

yea

[Viegon]

Yea

[Yodaking]

Yea, officially.

[Arkham]

yea

[Lazy Orang]

Okay - about 20 minutes early, but I might not have as good an opportunity to post this in 20. This Passes On Time to Final Editing!

Now we just need a card and a vote for release, and then I can get started on Dispel.