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Old September 21st, 2009, 08:39 PM
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Declaration of Dependence

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Old September 21st, 2009, 09:00 PM
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Re: Declaration of Dependence

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I ALMOST stopped watching that because it got too stupid.

Pay attention to this next sentence. If you don't believe in global warming, AND it turns out that you are found out to be right in a few years, THEN you are lucky. I mean, really lucky. Who are we to believe? Lobbyists, politicians or scientists. I choose scientists. If you don't think that the vast majority of scientists believe in global warming, then I'd love to sell you a copy of Wave 12 that I just got my hands on. I assure it's official. Are you smarter than the vast majority of scientists? Or maybe you're just REALLY sure that the minority scientist you believe in is really right. In that case, the majority of scientists are completely untrustworthy. If that's you're position, then what and who do you propose we rely upon?

I realize that was just a small part of what this guy said, but it's a telling part.

I have to assume he just meant human-caused global warming because that would move him closer to reality...but not far enough. Once again, if you don't think humans have had an effect on the planet's warming, then you may have lots of friends who agree with you, but the majority of scientists don't. Who should we listen to?

One more point. PROVE that there were less trees now than when the country was founded.

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Old September 21st, 2009, 09:19 PM
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Re: Declaration of Dependence

One minute in - ummm, we have about 2/3's the tree's that were around when Columbus "discovered" North America. Thanks to Teddy Roosevelt however, we still have much of our forests. It's only because of government we still have many of those trees by his making so many federally protected parks and encouraging states to do the same.

Yep....those evil democrats banning all guns. It's horrifying how I cannot get a gun now anymore. Oh, wait, I can. Just as easily as I could before Obama was elected. Oh well, still sounds like good rhetoric.

I also like how he "tries" justifies the invasion of a country that was no threat to us by saying he is bad, yet doesn't mention the many other "bad" countries that the US is perfectly fine with because they do what we want (Much like Saddam did during the 80's - we didn't care how many of his own people he killed then because he was our buddy).

Love how he slams southern Democrats, but fails to mention how most of those southern democrats became republicans once democrats (finally) took up the civil rights cause, along with many northern republicans as well.

America the most benevolent nation on Earth? Ok, we are no great evil, but I doubt we even rank in the top 10 on benevolence considering how many evil regimes we have propped up. Make sure to look up the history of "The school of Americas" to see our benevolence. We, like most countries has done many wonderful things, and unfort, our fair share of crappy things as well (Re: Saddam being our best bud in the 80's).

He seems to miss the point that despite the so called "Blame America" it's more often (though not always) "Let's admit our role in the mess".

I also love how he speaks for ALL liberals aobut how they are so condescending, nope, that's not being condescending at all....

He then rants about people comminting on his page...like both sides don't say stupid stuff all the time on website comment pages...it's the internet, it happens (O'Reilly often has this same problem, its horrible when it happens on Media Matters or some liberal site, but when it's his site, well, he can't control what some yahoo's say on his website).

No nation has done more to close the gap between the have and have nots? Is he serious? Must be a limited definition because the gap between the rich and poor is widening faster than ever, and over the past decade wages for the poor and middle class have barely moved while the rich have skyrocketed.

Socialism doesn't work? Better let the majority of the world know that....(Not saying it works as well as regulated capitalism, just that it obviously does work pretty well).

GM is in trouble not because of Unions, but because it failed to compete against Japanese cars. While they were mocking those pitiful Jap cars, the Japanese were working like crazy to design cars that could be world leaders. Guess what? They did. And we are still playing catch up, all the while being burdened by massive health care costs that Japanese car companies don't have to worry about because they spend half as much money on health care so they can go see the doctors 3 times as much with shorter wait times.

GM failed because they made hybrid cars? No, you dope, they failed because when gas hit $4 a gallon, their top sellers, like Ford, were gas guzzlers while Toyota had a fleet of smaller cars that were more reliable and more fuel efficient. That's why Toyota became number one.

If he bothered to actually spend more time speaking for what he was for, instead of bashing all Liberals and demonizing Democrats, he'd probably be worth listening to again. As it is, he said stuff so one sided and often wrong, that it's not worth it.

Thanks for the post however.

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Re: Declaration of Dependence



He is right on. I agree about 99.9 % Really, why try and take away our guns? The criminals will still be able to get guns, and he'll have nothing to worry about if he's robbing a store, as far as someone trying to stop him goes. Another conservative Youtuber that I enjoy watching is Steven Crowder. Funny guy, and makes a lot of sense.
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Re: Declaration of Dependence

I like this video about reform a LOT better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk

Something about the guy in the first video just turned me off. His speech just seemed insane. I'm fairly conservative, but his style of presentation REALLY turned me off.


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Old September 21st, 2009, 09:24 PM
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Re: Declaration of Dependence

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He is right on. I agree about 99.9 % Really, why try and take away our guns? The criminals will still be able to get guns, and he'll have nothing to worry about if he's robbing a store, as far as someone trying to stop him goes. Another conservative Youtuber that I enjoy watching is Steven Crowder. Funny guy, and makes a lot of sense.
I'm still confused? Who is taking your guns. Has the government came and taken them?

You do realize that violence is still below 1980 levels don't you? Murder rates are far lower now than then. All without having to outlaw guns, which no one has (the closest was DC and it was properly overturned).

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Re: Declaration of Dependence

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Socialism doesn't work? Better let the majority of the world know that....(Not saying it works as well as regulated capitalism, just that it obviously does work pretty well).
Thats a Joke right?

Socialism... Works?

People in Socialist countries are starving. They have to wait on lists for hospital care, and many times die before they can get it.

Sure, it all looks good on paper. Everyone shares. Everyones happy. But lets look at this in real life. You take away peoples extra money, they stop being motivated to work hard. Then they stop working, as the rest of the Country supports them. More and more people stop working. The result: Mass Poverty, unemployment, and a crappier quality of life.
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Re: Declaration of Dependence

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Socialism doesn't work? Better let the majority of the world know that....(Not saying it works as well as regulated capitalism, just that it obviously does work pretty well).
Thats a Joke right?

Socialism... Works?

People in Socialist countries are starving. They have to wait on lists for hospital care, and many times die before they can get it.

Sure, it all looks good on paper. Everyone shares. Everyones happy. But lets look at this in real life. You take away peoples extra money, they stop being motivated to work hard. Then they stop working, as the rest of the Country supports them. More and more people stop working. The result: Mass Poverty, unemployment, and a crappier quality of life.
Perhaps he is referring to things like socialized healthcare?
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Re: Declaration of Dependence

Oh great, new video - Multicultural country is bad, or put another way, We just want White culture.

I've always agreed with the basic premise that we should all be Americans first. The problem always comes from the fact that people feel that they are being "American" and others are not. The man in the video obviously considers his way the only way to be "American" and that any other is wrong. Then another group will say they are the true "Americans" and that he is wrong. I never felt that it was "Out of Many people, one Culture" which is what he wants to believe, but instead "Out of many cultures, One Nation" - that is of course, my view only.

Overall, he is far better than the first video though, much more talking about what he believes.

On the God issue, which I always find funny considering that God wasn't in our COnstituition, wasn't on our money until the 50's and not in our pledge until then too. In fact, they loved being a secular nation so much, they said in a treaty (that passed unanimously) that we are NOT a Christian nation. But let's ignore that, and that people like Jefferson were Diest's because that's inconvenient.

Oh yes, now all Democrats are traitors. Yep, we all hate our country and want to destroy it. You got us, how did you ever find us out. Sad because he was doing a decent job until then.

He ends much better however, except for his desperate fanboy wish to be Payne.

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Re: Declaration of Dependence

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Socialism doesn't work? Better let the majority of the world know that....(Not saying it works as well as regulated capitalism, just that it obviously does work pretty well).
Thats a Joke right?

Socialism... Works?

People in Socialist countries are starving. They have to wait on lists for hospital care, and many times die before they can get it.

Sure, it all looks good on paper. Everyone shares. Everyones happy. But lets look at this in real life. You take away peoples extra money, they stop being motivated to work hard. Then they stop working, as the rest of the Country supports them. More and more people stop working. The result: Mass Poverty, unemployment, and a crappier quality of life.
Ummmmm Most of Europe isn't starving last I checked. I am of course refering to countries with socialist tendencies because virtually no country is purely socialist just like no country is purely capitalist. Perhaps you should actually check up on nations of the world before saying silly things like they are all starving or waiting list for hospital care (most aren't and many beat us on wait times, see that evil socialized Japanese healthcare system costs half as much as ours for better results, more visits, and shorter wait times).

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Re: Declaration of Dependence

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I would argue with you, jschild, about the gun control, but these internet arguments solve nothing. I'll just call you a fellow HSer, and leave it at that.

I just came in to agree with the OP, and leave it at that.
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