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The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon)

The Book of Batgirl

C3G DC WAVE 26
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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Unleashed set.
Its model number and name are #049-051 / Batgirl.
The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Batman Alpha set.
Its model number and name are #024 / Batgirl.

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Character Bio - The daughter of Gotham City Police Commissioner James Gordon, Barbara Gordon was instilled with a strong sense of justice early in her life. After Barbara, while dressed for a costume ball as a female version of Batman, foiled a plot by the villain Killer Moth, this sense of justice lead her to become a costumed crime-fighter. In the beginning of this second career, Barbara's inspiration for vigilantism, Batman, was against her choice and tried to persuade her to give up the lifestyle. However, this did little to dissuade Barbara and instead only furthered her desire to do good. Taking the name Batgirl, and fueled both by her sense of justice and competition, Barbara would go on to become on of Gotham's most trusted protectors.
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q: If Batgirl's attack is boosted by Reckless Advance and she attacks a figure with Counter Strike, do excess shields from the defending figure count as two hits each on Batgirl?
  • A: No. If Reckless Advance and another special power both say that excess shields from the defending figure should count as unblockable hits on Batgirl, the two effects do not stack. Batgirl would only take one unblockable hit for each excess shield.
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21 November 2020 - Bat-Grapple wording update

".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above
Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"

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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

NAME = BATGIRL
SECRET IDENTITY = BARBARA GORDON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = BRASH

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 130


VIGILANTE RIVALRY
When taking a turn with Batgirl, if there are at least two Order Markers on the cards of other Vigilantes or Sidekicks you control, add 2 to her Range number and 1 to her Attack number.

RECKLESS ADVANCE
If Batgirl attacks an adjacent figure that she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields from the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.

BAT-GRAPPLE 3
Instead of her normal move, Batgirl may move up to 3 spaces with Bat-Grapple. When moving with Bat-Grapple, Batgirl has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 30 levels in a single grapple, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above
Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"

Last edited by tcglkn; November 21st, 2020 at 10:01 PM. Reason: Updated Bat-Grapple
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Old July 21st, 2014, 08:30 AM
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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

I like that idea, Margloth! It's actually somewhat simpler than what I have, because it simplifies everything down to the attack phase.

For reference, here's where we're at with all the changes:
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NAME = BATGIRL
SECRET IDENTITY = BARBARA GORDON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE or PRODIGY
PERSONALITY = BRASH

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM X?

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = ???


VIGILANTE RIVALRY
At the start of the round, add 1 to Batgirl's Range and Attack numbers for each Order Marker placed on any other Vigilante or Sidekick cards you control, up to a maximum of +2.

RECKLESS ADVANCE
If Batgirl attacks a figure she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields rolled by the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.

BAT-GRAPPLE 3
Instead of her normal move, Batgirl may use her Bat-Grapple 3. Bat-Grapple 3 has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Bat-Grapple 3, ignore elevations. Batgirl may grapple over water without stopping, grapple over figures without becoming engaged, and grapple over obstacles such as ruins. Batgirl may not Bat-Grapple 3 more than 30 levels up or down in a single Bat-Grapple 3. If Batgirl is engaged when she starts to Bat-Grapple 3, she will take any leaving engagement attacks.

".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above
Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"
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Old July 28th, 2014, 06:14 PM
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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

Vigilante it is! Any other comments or suggestions before I send her to the ERB? Any push for Utility Belt 1 instead of Bat-Grapple?


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NAME = BATGIRL
SECRET IDENTITY = BARBARA GORDON

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = BRASH

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM X?

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = ???


VIGILANTE RIVALRY
At the start of the round, add 1 to Batgirl's Range and Attack numbers for each Order Marker placed on any other Vigilante or Sidekick cards you control, up to a maximum of +2.

RECKLESS ADVANCE
If Batgirl attacks a figure she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields rolled by the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.

BAT-GRAPPLE 3
Instead of her normal move, Batgirl may use her Bat-Grapple 3. Bat-Grapple 3 has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Bat-Grapple 3, ignore elevations. Batgirl may grapple over water without stopping, grapple over figures without becoming engaged, and grapple over obstacles such as ruins. Batgirl may not Bat-Grapple 3 more than 30 levels up or down in a single Bat-Grapple 3. If Batgirl is engaged when she starts to Bat-Grapple 3, she will take any leaving engagement attacks.

".... the Cambridge ladies do not care, above
Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"
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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

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VIGILANTE RIVALRY
When taking a turn with Batgirl, if there are at least two Order Markers on the cards of other Vigilantes or Sidekicks you control, add 2 to her Range number and 1 to her Attack number.

RECKLESS ADVANCE
If Batgirl attacks an adjacent figure that she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields rolled by the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.

BAT-GRAPPLE 3
Instead of her normal move, Batgirl may use her Bat-Grapple 3. Bat-Grapple 3 has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Bat-Grapple 3, ignore elevations. Batgirl may grapple over water without stopping, grapple over figures without becoming engaged, and grapple over obstacles such as ruins. Batgirl may not Bat-Grapple 3 more than 30 levels up or down in a single Bat-Grapple 3. If Batgirl is engaged when she starts to Bat-Grapple 3, she will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
Minor deletions, otherwise looks good.

Sorry for the delay.

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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

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RECKLESS ADVANCE
If Batgirl attacks an adjacent figure that she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields rolled by the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.
Minor deletions, otherwise looks good.
Y'know, I was looking this over last night, and I almost made the exact same edits. The wording is taken verbatim from Lumbering Bully on Classic's Ogre Warhulk, but I think your edits flows better. SP updated.

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Sorry for the delay.
Don't worry about it. You've had a lot going on!

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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

Yeah, that is a little weird. MMA already set a precedent for cutting the "rolled" out of it, so we could do it like this:

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If Batgirl attacks an adjacent figure that she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields rolled by from the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.

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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

Good catch, Soundwarp. I'm having trouble keeping the whole auto shields/skulls don't bit straight. This works for me:
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RECKLESS ADVANCE
If Batgirl attacks an adjacent figure that she was not engaged with at the start of the turn, add 1 automatic skull to whatever is rolled. During this attack, all excess shields rolled by from the defending figure count as unblockable hits inflicted on Batgirl by that figure.

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moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"
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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

I've tweaked this design a few times now, but I think I'm settled on this direction. I'm hoping to capture the young, reckless Batgirl that's still trying to prove herself in the eyes of Batman and Robin. One major change I considered was Utility Belt 1 instead of Bat-Grapple, but I could go either way. Thoughts?

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Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"
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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

One thing we'll need to work out is the mini. Here are the options that I can find so far:

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Comic art:
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Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"

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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

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One thing we'll need to work out is the mini. Here are the options that I can find so far:

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I have the second one, and I bet a lot of people do, as it's been around forever, but I like the first one the best, followed by the third one.

Might be nice to have an alternative card here for the second one, though.

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Re: The Book of Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) - Design Phase

SP updated. One last thing is the mini, I'm going to open it up to a poll. Everyone can vote for up to two options, ranked in order:
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Cambridge if sometimes in its box of
sky lavender and cornerless, the
moon rattles like a fragment of angry candy"
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