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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (Avengers) (Public Testing)
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Originally Posted by Skinderella
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Scarlet Witch (Avengers)
Army Test 1
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Scarlet Witch (370), Captain America (240), Winter Soldier (240), Ms. Marvel (350), Sage (190) (1390 points) Vs. Proxima Midnight (350), Black Swan (320), Thanos (500), Black Panther (200), Venom Pigeon (30) (1400 points)
Spoiler Alert!
Avenger Markers on everyone on blue team. Winter Soldier partners up with Cap. Black Panther is a Destroyer.
Round 1 - Red team start
R1: Black Swan flies around the side, Thanos moves down the centre.
B1: Sage moves forward slightly and enhances Scarlet Witch.
R2: Proxima moves to Thanos. Black Panther moves to Black Swan.
B2: Captain America and Winter Soldier move down the centre.
R3: Proxima and Black Swan move forward.
B3: Ms. Marvel moves next to Cap.
Round 2 - Blue team start
B1: Cap moves up and throws his shield at Proxima and Black Swan. No wounds inflicted. Winter Soldier moves and shoots Black Swan. No wounds inflicted.
R1: Black Swan moves in and attacks Captain America. No wounds inflicted. Proxima uses her Stellar Spear on Ms. Marvel, but no wounds are inflicted.
B2: SW moves in and Ms. Marvel retaliates, rolling 6 skulls vs. 2 shields, dealing 4 wounds to Proxima.
R2: Proxima Stellar Spears Cap but no wounds are inflicted. Her side effect kicks in though, now Cap rolls 2 fewer defense dice, and Thanos Permanent Death’s Cap, also hitting Winter Solder and Ms. Marvel. Ms. Marvel receives 1 wound.
B3: SW moves and fires Chaos Bolts at Thanos. Out of Cap’s sight but with height advantage, first attack is 2 skulls 1 blank, dealing 3 wounds. Second attack is 4 skulls 1 blank, dealing another 4 wounds and destroying him. Ms. Marvel shoots Proxima but deals no wounds.
R3: Proxima spears SW, dealing a wound and one additional wound. Black Panther sneaks up on SW and attacks her, dealing a wound.
Round 3 - Blue team start
B1: SW bolts Black Panther. No wounds inflicted. Ms. Marvel tries but again no wounds to him.
R1: Black Swan shoots SW but inflicts no wounds. Proxima throws her spear at Ms. Marvel but also fails.
B2: Captain America engages Proxima and Black Swan, but fails to wound Proxima. Winter Soldier shoots Proxima, destroying her.
R2: Black Swan shoots at Cap, failing to wound. Black Panther attacks SW, destroying her.
B3: Cap climbs the height to Black Swan and attacks, 5 skulls vs 1 shield, dealing 4 wounds. Ms. Marvel finishes her off.
R3: OM3 on Black Swan.
Round 4 - Red team start
Thanos is revived, placed near Black Panther and Ms. Marvel.
R1: Thanos engages Ms. Marvel and deals 3 wounds to her.
B1: Captain America engages Black Panther and attacks, dealing no wounds. Winter Soldier attacks Thanos but deals no wounds.
R2: Thanos finishes off Ms. Marvel, but her Best Defense deals a wound. Winter Soldier successfully GYS’s Thanos, inflicting a wound.
B2: OM2 on Ms. Marvel.
R3: Thanos engages Winter Soldier and deals 1 wound.
B3: OM3 on Ms. Marvel.
Round 5 - Red team start
R1: Thanos rolls no skulls.
B1: Cap leaves the engagement with Black Panther and does not take damage. He engages Thanos and deals a wound. Winter Soldier rolls all skulls and blanks, dealing 2 wounds to Thanos.
R2: Thanos fails to wound Cap.
B2: Cap finishes off Thanos. Winter Soldier engages Black Panther. With 3 skulls 1 blank vs. no shields, Black Panther drops.
R3: OM3 on Thanos.
B3: Cap and Winter Soldier close in on Pigeon Venom with the help of the road. No wounds inflicted.
Round 6 - Red team starts
R1: Pigeon attempts, but no luck
B1: Captain America kills the pigeon.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Captain America (no wounds), Winter Soldier (1 wound), Sage (no wounds).
Army Test
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Scarlet Witch (370), Professor X (220), Angel (90), Deadpool (285), Judge Fish (25) (990 points) Vs. Fantastic Four (1000 points)
Spoiler Alert!
For clarity, Mr. Fantastic’s power reads as “After revealing an Order Marker and before taking a turn with Mr. Fantastic”, whilst SW’s reads “when an enemy figure within 4 clear sight spaces of SW begins its turn”. Going by this, I assumed this would mean Mr. Fantastic can still activate his Fantastic Leader as it activates before he takes a turn, but if this is incorrect I can run this test again.
Avenger Marker on Deadpool. Deadpool is also Judge Fish’s Companion.
Round 1 - Blue team start
B1: Xavier commands Angel and Deadpool. Angel carries X in whilst Deadpool follows.
R1: Sue, Thing and Reed all move forward.
B2: SW and Deadpool move in.
R2: All of the F4 move in, sticking together.
B3: SW moves forward and takes shots at Johnny. First attack, 1 skull 1 blank deals 1 wound. Second is 3 skulls no blanks but still inflicts 2 wounds. Deadpool moves adjacent to SW and shoots Johnny, but also fails to wound.
R3: Thing moves towards SW, CT’s with Johnny, and Deadpool Wisecracks to draw his attention, and inflicts 3 wounds. Reed moves in to attack Deadpool, but deals no wounds.
X revealed for Deadpool heal.
Round 2 - Blue team start
B1: SW attacks The Thing. First attack is 2 skulls no blanks, but Rock Wall kicks in. Next attack is 2 skulls 1 blank, dealing 2 wounds. Deadpool leaves the engagement with The Thing but takes no wounds, and attacks Johnny, dealing 1 wound. Deadpool heals.
R1: SW disables Johnny’s Supernova, so he flies in to attack SW. With Judge Fish’s help, Deadpool wisecracks, and receives 2 wounds. Mr. Fantastic then attacks SW but fails to wound.
B2: SW attacks The Thing. First attack 2 skulls no blanks deals no wounds. Second attack also deals no wounds. Deadpool attacks and kills Johnny. Deadpool heals.
R2: Mr. Fantastic attacks but fails to wound.
B3: Angel flies Xavier closer to the fight, whilst Deadpool attacks Reed, dealing no wounds. Deadpool heals.
R3: Scarlet Witch disables The Thing’s attack, so he engages Deadpool whilst still being engaged to SW. Mr. Fantastic engages SW and attacks, but deals no wounds. Sue moves but fails to wound SW. Angel carries Deadpool out of the fight.
X reveal to heal Deadpool.
Round 3 - Blue team start
B1: Deadpool engages Sue and attacks, dealing 1 wound. SW attacks Reed. First attack rolls no skulls. Second is 2 skulls no blanks, no wounds inflicted.
R1: SW succeeds and disables The Thing’s attack. He moves up onto higher ground next to SW. Mr. Fantastic attacks SW and deals a wound.
B2: Deadpool deals another wound to Sue whilst SW attacks Reed. First attack is 2 skulls and deals no wounds. Second is 2 skulls 1 blank, but Reed rolls 7 shields.
R2: Sue flees and lands between Xavier and The Thing. She attacks him and deals 1 wound. Angel flies Xavier out and around a different side of SW. The Thing attacks SW with two additional die via CT with Sue, but Xavier activates Psychic Defense X. Reed then attacks but deals no wounds.
B3: With the help of the road, Deadpool engages Sue again and attacks, dealing a wound. SW attacks Reed. First attack: 1 skull 1 blank, dealing no wounds. Second attack is 3 skulls, no wounds.
R3: Thing attacks SW, dealing a wound. Reed fails to wound. Angel plucks Deadpool and places him next to Sue and The Thing.
Round 4 - Blue team start
B1: Deadpool inflicts 1 wound on Sue. SW attacks Reed. First attack is 3 skulls 1 blank, dealing 3 wounds. Second is 1 skull 2 blanks, dealing a wound.
R1: Thing attacks and with CT on Reed gets an additional attack. With Judge Fish’s help, Deadpool wisecracks, and receives 2 wounds, and on the second attack with 8 skulls, Professor X blocks it. Mr. Fantastic attacks but deals no wounds.
B2: Deadpool destroys Sue and heals. SW attacks Reed. First attack is 1 skull 2 blanks, destroying Reed. SW then goes for The Thing, but deals no wounds.
R2: OM2 on Mr. Fantastic.
B3: Deadpool deals 2 wounds to The Thing, and heals. SW rolls 2 skulls 1 blank, which is enough to destroy The Thing.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Deadpool (no wounds), Scarlet Witch (1 life left), Professor X (3 life left), Judge Fish, Angel (no wounds).
Avenger Marker on Chun-Li.
Round 1 - Blue team start
B1: Headpool moves towards Star-Lord. Robot carries Star-Lord forward.
R1: Mikey moves in.
B2: Headpool moves again. Chun-Li moves onto the road.
R2: Raph moves around the side of the map.
B3: Headpool moves. Scarlet Witch flies in.
R3: Leo moves forward, and Don follows via Turtle Power.
Round 2 - Red team start
R1: With the help of the road, Mikey rushes Star-Lord but fails to wound. Cowabunga kicks in and he stealth leaps away.
B1: Headpool moves. Chun-Li engages Headpool and attacks, dealing 2 wounds. Punted reduces that and Headpool is moved one space. Chun moves with SBK and deals another wound, with Headpool punted once more.
R2: Leo moves forward, and with Turtle Power Don takes a turn and vaults to Chun, failing to wound.
B2: Headpool stays put. Scarlet Witch moves and goes for shots on Mikey. Buffed by height and Star-Lord, first shot is 2 skulls and 1 blank, but Mikey rolls 4 shields. Second shot is 4 skulls, and with Splinter’s tWoN, Mikey takes 1 wound.
R3: Raph moves around.
B3: Robot attacks Don but fails to wound. Scarlet Witch goes again. First shot is 3 skulls and 1 blank against Mikey, killing him. Splinter drops in. Second shot on Headpool, 1 skull and 1 blank deals a wound.
Round 3 - Blue team start
B1: Robot takes a shot at Don but fails. Scarlet Witch takes a shot at Don but Headpool Wisecracks, 3 skulls and no blanks still destroying him. Second shot on Don, 3 skulls and 1 blank. With Splinter’s tWoN, he takes 3 wounds. Gauntlet is lost and placed behind Star-Lord.
R1: Leo engages Chun and attacks, dealing 1 wound. Turtle Power activates for Raph and Don. Raph engages Robot an deals 3 wounds. Don then strikes Chun, dealing a wound.
B2: Robot attacks Raph but fails to wound. Scarlet Witch then shoots Raph. With only Star-Lord’s buff, she rolls 1 skull, 1 blank on her first attack, dealing 1 wound. Second attack is the same but deals no wounds.
R2: Raph destroys Robot.
B3: Scarlet Witch attacks Raph, 4 skulls no blanks deals 2 wounds. Second attack, 1 skull 2 blanks destroys Raph. Splinter drops next to Splinter drops near Star-Lord.
R3: OM3 was on Raph and removed for Turtle Power.
Round 4 - Blue team start
B1: SW attacks Leo, 4 skulls no blanks deals 2 wounds. Second attack is 3 skulls no blanks and deals 1 wound.
R1: SW disables Turtle Power as Leo stealth leaps to Star-Lord, dealing 2 wounds.
B2: SW attacks Leo. First attack is 3 skulls no blanks and deals no wounds. Second attack is 3 skulls no blanks and with Splinter’s help, Leo takes just 1 wound.
R2: Splinter engages Chun-Li. Whilst dealing no wounds with his attack, Breaking Balance inflicts a wound.
B3: Scarlet Witch attacks. 3 skulls no blanks against Splinter, no wounds. 1 skull 1 blank against Splinter, no wounds.
R3: Splinter attacks Chun but she blocks.
Round 5 - Blue team start
B1: Scarlet Witch shoots Splinter. 5 skulls no blanks vs. 1 shield + tWoN deals 3 wounds. Second attack is 3 skulls no blanks, dealing no wounds.
R1: Leo destroys Star-Lord. Turtle Power kicks in and Don destroys Chun.
B2: Scarlet Witch flies away and attacks Splinter. 3 skulls no blanks inflicts no wounds. Second attack also deals no wounds.
R2: Splinter engages SW but deals no wounds.
B3: SW takes a leaving engagement attack from Splinter and she attacks. No wounds inflicted.
R3: Splinter attacks but fails to wound. BB kicks in and wounds SW.
Round 6 - Blue team start
B1: SW destroys Splinter.
R1: Leo engages SW and deals 1 wound. Turtle Power lets Don do the same but he fails to wound.
B2: SW fails to wound Leo.
R2: Leo fails to wound. Turtle Power once again but no wounds.
B3: SW fails to wound on the first hit, but the second rolls all skulls and kills Leo.
R3: Removed for Turtle Power.
Round 7 - Red team start
R1: No wounds inflicted.
B1: SW rolls all skulls and lands the final blow.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Scarlet Witch with 1 life remaining.
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Scarlet Witch’s power and utility is more than enough to see her getting board time. She’s very hit or miss with damage, and gets so ridiculously strong as you buff her. In the first game she destroyed 500 point Thanos in one turn. Second game she takes out most of the F4 with help from Deadpool. This game her Altering Avenger gets a lot more play. AA really ruins a lot of figure’s plans and can make her deceptively tanky. In the third game she tore the turtles apart but still was an incredibly close game. She REALLY benefits from having her attack raised, and I’d wonder how she’d do with Enchantress since the current wording suggests that auto skull would be affected too.
Maybe I was getting lucky rolls, but the more I played her the more I felt she could actually do with a slight point increase. 3 attack isn’t hurting much, but when she’s rolling 5 attack dice it almost always leads to something getting hurt badly, and that’s not hard to achieve. And if she’s rolling well for her AA as well, she’s not going down anytime soon and can shut figures down. Sage is an incredible partner for her that bolsters both of her abilities, and I’d fear what she could do if you stack multiple buffers, or if I’d managed to pull off Cap + Sage + height in the first game.
This all said though, she’s a frail unit if she’s not rolling well, or against someone who outranges her, has MD, auto wounds, or has multi attacks. She has a lot of weaknesses that can be exploited easily with the right set up. She’s definitely a piece you could build teams around, but you need to guard her. The second team was built almost entirely around her and it showed it’s potency with the sheer amount of shutdown and redirection.
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I loved her! I love her chaotic and creative abilities. She was terrifying to fight as just a couple of buffs made her damage potential so much higher, and she has several teams she can slot into. I had a lot of fun testing her though, and it was fun building teams that pushed her chaos further.
Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (Avengers) (Public Testing)
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Originally Posted by Blubberguy22
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Scarlet Witch (Avengers)
Army Test
Map: Country Road
Units:
Blubberguy22(me) played:
Scarlet Witch 370
Captain America 240
Winter Soldier 240 (who chose Captain America as his buddy, of course)
Ms. Marvel 350
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Fantastic 4 + Future Force Spider-Man (1225 total)
Spoiler Alert!
Random glyph was Glyph of Weather Heavy Rain and did not do much of anything in the game. Both forces met on the bridge. Cap provided support as Ms. Marvel took the brunt of the attacks, often inflicting wounds with her "Best Defense" ability while also bonding to let Scarlet Witch take turns. Overall all figures on the Avengers side did similar amounts of damage, with Bucky and Captain America getting the finishing blows. Winter Soldier was able to sneak around to the other side and take down Invisible Woman, stopping her defensive buff. Scarlet Witch was able to prevent a good amount of attacks, which while saving her during the last round did not make much of a difference at that point as Captain America killed Spider-Man and Mr. Fantastic with his shield and Winter Soldier finished The Thing during the bonded turn.
Overall, it felt pretty balanced, as by the final round both teams had suffered a good amount of damage and both Invisible Woman and Ms. Marvel had already been lost. The Fantastic 4 won initiative and did some damage to Scarlet Witch on the first turn. Captain America threw his shield and damaged Spider-Man and Mr. Fantastic while Bucky attempted to take down the Thing. Then Spider-Man, having expected Mr. Fantastic to die, took a turn but was stopped from attacking by Scarlet Witch (retroactively changed: she rolled a 10 and can't +4 herself so she died actually, 3 skulls vs. 2 shields). Then Captain America went again and all three of the remaining opponents were killed.
Scarlet Witch is fun to play, and preventing opponents from doing things creates a nice control dynamic. Her attacks are often pretty decent, usually rolling 2-4 each time. It is also nice to have the Magical Defense power, which gives her the longevity she needs when having only 4 life but costing 370 points. Will play another game or two to see how the numbers feel more precisely, but as of now she feels pretty good.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): I won, Captain America and Winter Soldier both with 3 life remaining (2 wounds), everyone else died.
Army Test
Map: Grundy's Grave
Units:
Blubberguy22 (me) played:
Scarlet Witch (370) + Mystic Flames (5)*
Captain America (Sam Wilson) (180)
Tar Pit (150)*
Blob (165)*
*with White Avenger Marker
vs.
Green Lantern (Kilowog) (310)
Green Lantern x3 (120)
Green Construct (Decoy) x4 (200)
Spoiler Alert!
Overall: Green Lanterns smacked around my team as I tried to hold them down with Tar Pit and Blob, but failed to prevent the team from dying as Kilowog sent in Green Constructs for the kills.
Round 1. I won initiative. Choosing Captain America (CA) bonded with Blob to move up. Opponent moved a Green Lantern (GL) up (towards center). Similar second turn, moving Tar Pit and another GL towards combat. Then Scarlet Witch (SW) moved in and hit a GL for 1 (1 of each face for 2 skulls total, second attack was a whiff). That same GL attempted to retaliate but SW got a 16 and prevented it from attacking.
Round 2. I won initiative. With CA bonded with Blob who moved up to engage two GLs. He attacked but dealt no damage. CA hung back. Next a GL came up and smacked SW, dealing 2 (reduced to 1 because Magical Defense). Tar Pit moved up to lock down this third GL and attempted to damage him, but failed to do so. Kilowog spawned a Green Construct (GC) and SW attempted to stop it attacking, but failed (rolled 10). It then moved up and attacked SW at range, dealing 2 (reduced to 1 because Magical Defense). SW then tried to use Mystic Flames and rolled 1 skull. Tar Pit was unaffected and Blob defended successfully. Both GLs also defended successfully. Kilowog then placed another GC, this time out of range of SW. It then moved up to SW and attacked, which she defended.
Round 3. I won initiative. CA again bonding with Blob to attack a GL (rolling all 5 skulls), one-shotting the GL. Kilowog then followed up with another GC, this time getting it stuck on Blob to gain height advantage (going where the recently fallen GL was). It got all 5 skulls (must be revenge) giving Blob 3 damage. CA bonded with Tar Pit to try to hit a GL, but failed to deal any damage. Kilowog spawned another GC, which dealt another 2 (so 1 because Magical Defense) to SW. CA bonded with SW to roll 4 (2 skulls, 1 blank) on a GC, killing it outright. She then followed up with 2 (2 skulls, 1 shield) on a GL, failing to do damage. Kilowog then used an already summoned GC to attack Scarlet Witch, killing her.
Round 4. Opponent won initiative. Kilowog used another GC to smack CA for 3 damage, nearly killing him. CA then bonded with Blob to attack a GC, dealing 1 damage. Kilowog then used the same GC to kill CA (losing OM 2 and 3; he rolled horrible on his defense both times). GL then hit Blob for 1.
Round 5. I won initiative. Tar Pit double disengaged, taking 1 damage and then attacking a GC, getting the benefit of the extra blank (although not needing it) and killing it. A GL then did 1 damage to Blob. Tar Pit then rolled all 4 skulls and did 2 damage to a GL. That GL then moved away and attacked back, dealing 2 damage. Blob then tried to attack a GL, but rolled all shields. Tar Pit then got Murdered by a GL, who rolled 6 skulls (even though Tar Pit got 4 shields).
Round 6. I won initiative. Blob killed a GL. Then Blob died to a GL.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): I lost. Kilowog full Health, 1 GL with 1 health, 1 unsummoned GC and 2 full health GC remaining.
Overall: Magneto and Scarlet Witch scared opponent into corner, but not before sucking in Superman to be stuck to Blob and then Cyborg to get smacked by Ms. Marvel. Magneto ended up being the star, but Scarlet Witch was able to roll some decent attacks and prevent some of the opponent's attacks.
Round 1. Opponent won initiative. Wonder Woman moved. Ms. Marvel bonded to Magneto who attacked Wonder Woman, dealing 1 damage. Cyborg moved. Ms. Marvel bonded again with Magneto who attacked Wonder Woman, dealing another 2 damage. Superman moved. Ms. Marvel bonded a third time with Magneto to again attack Wonder Woman, who deflected the attack with her Bullets and Bracelets.
Round 2. I won initiative. Ms. Marvel with Magneto again to attack Wonder Woman, reflected with nobody to redirect to. Superman was next, attacking Magneto for 1 damage. Ms. Marvel with Magneto, moved next to and stuck with Blob. Second magnetic assault lost because of Blob. Ms. Marvel then followed up with an attack, dealing no damage. Superman was up next, and Scarlet Witch tried to slow him down but rolled a 1, although he was still stuck, but he failed to damage Blob. Ms. Marvel bonded with Scarlet Witch to attack Superman. Scarlet Witch rolled 3 skulls and a shield but did no damage on her first attack, but 2 skulls and 2 blanks for 6, damaging Superman for 2. Ms. Marvel then rolled 5 skulls and damaged Superman for 2 damage. Scarlet Witch again tried to stop Superman's attack, but got a 5 (she only needs 7 with the +7 with Blob having an Avenger marker and Destiny giving her +3 because of Magneto). Thus, Superman did 1 damage to Blob.
Round 3. I won initiative. Ms. Marvel bonded with Scarlet Witch, rolled 2 skulls, 1 shield, 1 blank, for 4, causing no damage to Superman. She then rolled 3 skulls and 1 blank for 6, killing Superman. Ms. Marvel then had nothing to attack. Wonder Woman ran away from Magneto's range. Then Ms. Marvel bonded with Magneto to have him go after Cyborg, moving him ever closer to Blob and dealing a damage. Cyborg then went, scared of Magneto, disengaging and getting away without taking damage, and then attacked, doing no damage. Ms. Marvel then moved up to get closer to the action. Cyborg was next, again attacking Magneto, but again dealing no damage. Cyborg healed 1 wound.
Round 4. I won initiative. Ms. Marvel bonded with Magneto, who was again in range for it. Again Magneto was only able to move Cyborg once, but still doing that single damage. Ms. Marvel then couldn't see Cyborg, so didn't get to attack him. Cyborg ran away again, didn't take the unlockable, and did 2 damage to Magneto. Ms. Marvel then bonded again with Magneto and this time he was able to move Cyborg twice, moving him right next to Ms. Marvel who whacked him hard for 3 damage, killing him dead. This skipped Cyborg's turn with OM 3, as he was dead. Then Ms. Marvel went and moved Scarlet Witch towards her enemies.
Round 5. Opponent won initiative. Wonder Woman was scared and moved away. Ms. Marvel bonded with Magneto to shoot Wonder Woman. This was ineffective. Shimmer was next and also ran away. Ms. Marvel bonded with Scarlet Witch to get her closer to the action. Mammoth also ran away. Ms. Marvel also went in closer.
Round 6. Opponent won initiative. Wonder Woman moved farther away. Blob moved closer. Wonder Woman did nothing. Ms. Marvel moved Scarlet Witch closer, who attacked Shimmer and rolled 2, which was blocked by Mammoth. Same thing happened for the second attack. Mammoth then attacked Scarlet Witch, which was blocked. Ms. Marvel told Magneto to come in to try to move Mammoth but he failed both times.
Round 7. Opponent won initiative. Mammoth went but Scarlet Witch said no, you can't attack (rolled 17+3=20). Magneto then went and shoved Mammoth into the water, surrounded on all sides so he would be stuck for at least one turn. Then Magneto realized he could still attack him so pushed him further along. Mammoth then went to attack Magneto, and did 1 damage because of his doubled skulls. Ms. Marvel then went to attack Mammoth and did 2 damage. Mammoth was up next and again Scarlet Witch said no, not allowed (rolled 14+3+4=21). Ms. Marvel bonded with Scarlet Witch, who rolled 2 skulls, 2 blanks for 6 skulls, killing Mammoth. Scarlet Witch used her second attack on Shimmer, rolling 3 skulls, dealing all 3 of them as damage. Then Ms. Marvel had nothing left to shoot at.
Round 8. I won initiative. Ms. Marvel went up towards Shimmer and shot her dead. This was the right move as Shimmer was OM1. Ms. Marvel bonded with Magneto who threw Wonder Woman into the water, where Ms. Marvel shot her dead as well.
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): I won. All of my heroes were left standing. Magneto took 4 damage, leaving him with 1 life, and Blob took 1 damage, leaving him with 5 life.
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Cost seems appropriate, and the unit is pretty well balanced. There are some times where she feels really strong while others she doesn't seem to do much when her rolls fail. Her attacks are middling without an extra die from either height or other units (like Captain America), but get pretty strong with just that single extra die. Positioning is definitely key with her.
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: A lot of fun and ends up being scary to the opponents. Definitely a control type, and if she can get a good position she can either make opponents wary of approaching or lock them in to die. Sometimes she feels a bit lacking in her ability to control the battlefield when getting misses on her ability, but when it succeeds repeatedly it really shuts down the other team. Magical Defense gives her some nice longevity to continue to lock opponents out.
His first tests complete! Happy to see some new testers. His points were a bit off, but I tried to help steer him a bit on what we're looking for.
I'm gonna want at least 1 experienced tester here though, to get another set of hands on it to get a better judgement.
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Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (Avengers) (Public Testing)
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Scarlet Witch
Army Test 1
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (1,000): Scarlet Witch (370), Quicksilver (240), Vision (340), Stan Lee
Team 2 (1,000): Fantastic FOur (1,000)
Pre-game thoughts: Vision rolled 3 skulls, 1 shield, and 2 blanks at the start of the game. Those blanks should give Wanda a decent power boost.
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Johnny takes a LEA from Wanda
-Johnny inflicts 2 wounds on Wanda with Flame On
Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Johnny takes a LEA from Pietro
-Wanda negates Flame On, saving Pietro and Vision from a fiery fate
-Vision adds a blank to double a 3-skull roll from Wanda against Sue
-Wanda takes out Sue
-Johnny takes 2 LEAs
-Johnny inflicts 2 wounds each on Vision and Pietro with Flame On
-Wanda takes out Johnny
-Reed takes out Pietro
-Vision inflicts a wound on Thing
Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Wanda inflicts 2 wounds on Thing
-Reed inflicts a wound on Wanda
-Vision inflicts 2 wounds on Reed
-Vision removes OM2 from Reed’s card
-Vision takes out Reed
-Vision removes OM3 from Reed’s card just to spite him
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Thing takes out Wanda
-Vision inflicts a wound on Thing
-Vision takes out Thing
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 9 wounds inflicted (5 on Invisible Woman, 2 on Human Torch, 2 on Thing)
Altering Avenger: 7 attempts, Flame On negated 1 times, Thing’s movement negated 1 times, Thing’s attack negated 1 times
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Vision (2/6 wounds), Stan Lee (Never came into play)
Post-game thoughts: Wanda had a pretty decent showing here. Negating Flame On was a big moment for the Avengers, saving them from a potential 4 wounds. Taking out Sue so early with some boosted Chaos Bolts was a strong play too.
Army Test 2
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (1,200): Scarlet Witch (370), Captain America (240), Zatara (230), Selene (360)
Team 2 (1,200): Doc Ock II (250), Rhino (220), Sandman (210), Kraven (200), Nitro (170), Mysterio (115), Mysterio Holograms (35)
Pre-game thoughts: Attack boosts with Cap and bonding with Zatara. Wanda is Kraven’s Prey
Summary of the game:
Spoiler Alert!
Round 1: T1 wins initiative
-Both sides advance
Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Kraven inflicts a wound on Zatara
-Kraven removes OM2 from Zatara
-Cap inflicts 3 wounds on Kraven
-Nitro explodes, inflicting a wound on Zatara and a wound on Selene
-Mysterio inflicts a wound on Zatara
-Wanda inflicts 2 wounds on Kraven
-Selene takes out Kraven, healing herself
Round 3: T2 wins initiative
-Mysterio inflicts a wound on Selene
-Nitro takes out Zatara
-Wanda takes a LEA from a Hologram
-Wanda takes out Nitro
-Wanda takes out Sandman
Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Rhino inflicts a wound on Wanda
-Cap inflicts a wound on Mysterio
-Mysterio inflicts a wound on Selene
-Rhino inflicts a wound on Wanda
-Wanda inflicts 4 wounds on Rhino
Round 5: T1 wins initiative
-Rhino takes out Wanda
-Mysterio inflicts a wound on Cap
-Selene drains a Hologram, healing herself
-Rhino inflicts 2 wounds on Cap
-Ock takes out Cap
Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-Selene inflicts 1 wound each on Rhino and Ock
-Rhino inflicts a wound on Selene
-Selene takes out Rhino and inflicts a wound on Mysterio
-Ock inflicts a wound on Selene
-Selene inflicts a wound on Ock
Round 7: T1 wins initiative
-Selene inflicts 1 wound each on Mysterio and Ock
-Ock inflicts a wound on Selene
-Selene takes out Ock, healing herself
-T2 had OM2 and OM3 on Ock, so they lose those turns
-Selene takes 2 LEAs from Holograms
-Selene takes out Mysterio, healing herself
Round 8: T2 wins initiative
-Selene takes out the Holograms
Special power usages:
Normal attack: 16 wounds inflicted (2 on Kraven, 5 on Nitro, 5 on Sandman, 4 on Rhino)
Altering Avenger: 8 attempts, Rhino’s normal attack negated 2 times, Mysterio’s Smoke and Mirrors negated 1 times
Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Selene (3/6 wounds)
Post-game thoughts: The S6 obviously had a huge turn efficiency advantage here, with Zatara falling before accomplishing much of anything, but the two sorceresses really tore through whatever was thrown at them. Wanda got a few really strong Chaos Bolts in there, especially when she one-shot Sandman.
THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Scarlet Witch’s damage-dealing power when stat-boosted is pretty insane. Not uncommon to be scoring 6 skull double attacks, which will obviously tear through anything the enemy throws at you pretty quick. However, she’s relatively fragile for her price point. Human Torch, for example, will make short work of her if he can survive long enough. Altering Avenger is perfect. It can shut down some enemy plays, but it’s random enough that it doesn’t feel frustrating. Might be a little on the strong side, but not horribly so?
GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Feels awesome! Perfectly on point.
I do feel like Hex Bolts is pretty insane, but not sure it needs to be toned down? I think it would be tricky to do so in a way that makes her feel good with and without stat boosters.
Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (Avengers) (Public Testing)
Thanks!
I definitely like it encouraged to play her with stat boosting, as the other Scarlets really don't need them at all to do their thing, and this being the Avengers Scarlet, really pushing her towards Cap, Vision, and to a lesser extent Star-Lord, feels appropriate. I also like how out of all the Scarlets, she feels the most vulnerable given her higher cost and lack of re-rolls etc. which sort of doubles down on her need for stat boosting and protective/support units in Quicksilver, Vision, and Cap.
Your 2 close wins lead me to believe she's in a pretty good place.
@330 before roll was upped from 12 to 14.
Close win. (Arkham)
@360 before roll was upped from 12 to 14.
Close win. (Arkham)
@370 before roll was upped from 12 to 14.
Medium loss. (Arkham)
Medium win. (Arkham)
@370 3-1
Close win. (Nobody)
Close win. (Nobody)
Close-Medium win. (Arkham)
Medium loss. (Arkham)
New testers aside, lots of close games, with some notable luck in some of the wins that might have tipped the other way. I do agree the Chaos Bolts potential might be a tad on the high side, so what I'm thinking is we make this slight tweak:
Quote:
CHAOS BOLTS
When attacking normally with Scarlet Witch, multiply the skulls in her attack by 1 + X. X is the number of blanks in her attack. After attacking normally with Scarlet Witch, if she did not inflict one or more wounds, she may attack normally one additional time.
That should prevent a big double 6+ skull attack from occurring, while still giving her the opportunity to do some damage, and capturing the feel of varying attack potential. It also captures a nice feel of if she picks on weak targets, it's less likely she'll need to attack again for a better outcome to break through.
I'll run a couple more games and see how that pans out.
Army Test 1
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Scarlet Witch(360), Cap(240), Vision(340), Star-Lord(250), Final Ruin(10) (1200)
vs. Luke Cage(190), Iron Fist(260), Moon Knight(150), Shang-Chi(230), Nova(210), Swordsman(160) (1200)
Spoiler Alert!
Attack Damage:
4 wounds on Moon Knight(+2), kills him. (+2 from Cap and Star-Lord: 4 skulls x 2 = 8]
3 wounds on Iron Fist(+1). (+3 from Cap, Star-Lord, and height: 3 skulls x 2 = 6)
3 wounds on Iron Fist, kills him. (+2 from Cap and Star-Lord: 4 skulls)
1 wound on Nova(+1). (+2 from Cap and height: 2 skulls x 2 = 4)
2 wounds on Luke Cage(+1, botch). (+2 from Cap and height: 2 skulls)
3 wounds on Nova(botch), kills him. (+1 from Cap: 1 skull x 3 = 3)
2 wounds on Shang-Chi. (+2 from Cap and height: 2 skulls x 2 = 4)
1 wound on Swordsman. (+1 from Cap: 3 skulls)
Altering Avenger:
8/12
15, prevents Iron Fist from attacking.
11+4=15, prevents Luke Cage from attacking.
18, prevents Nova from attacking.
15+4=19, prevents Luke Cage from attacking.
20, prevents Nova from attacking.
14+4=18, prevents Luke Cage from attacking.
20+4=24, prevents Luke Cage from attacking.
20, prevents Swordsman from attacking normally.
Notes:
Vision rolls 2 skulls, 2 shields, and 2 blanks.
R1: Vision puts a wound on Cage. Fist heals a wound off Cage. Cage puts 2 wounds on Vison(botch).
R2: Moon Knight puts a wound on Vision with CD, but misses on Cap. Cage puts 2 wounds on Vision. Cap puts a wound on Moon Knight. Moon Knight kills Vision with CD, but misses on Cap. Cage puts 1 wound on Cap.
R3: Iron Fist heals. Nova puts 2 wounds on Star-Lord(botch). Luke Cage kills Star-Lord.
R4: Cap puts a wound on Cage with STSA. Nova takes 1 wound from LEA, puts a wound on Scarlet. Luke Cage puts 2 wounds on Cap. Scarlet would kill Nova, but he removes his markers to ignore the damage.
R5: Cap kills Luke Cage(botch). Shang-Chi puts 1 wound on Scarlet.
R6: Cap puts 1 wound on Shang-Chi. Swordsman puts 1 wound on Scarlet Witch with his SA. Shang-Chi kills Scarlet.
R7: Cap puts a wound on Shang-Chi. Shang-Chi kills Cap.
Shang-Chi with 4/5 wounds. (1 life)
Swordsman with 1/4 wounds. (3 life)
Close finish. Vision fell fast, but then Scarlet managed to go on a tear. The Fighters were fighting uphill at that point for a few rounds, with some unfortunate botches towards the back half of the game making their climb even tougher, but they managed to pull through and get the victory in the end.
Army Test 2
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Scarlet Witch(360), Cyclops(240), Wolverine(270), Emma Frost(220), Final Ruin(10) (1100)
vs. Star-Lord(250), Nebula(240), Gamora(300), She-Hulk(310) (1100)
Spoiler Alert!
Attack Damage:
3 wounds on Nebula(+2). (+2 from Emma and height: 2 skulls x 2 = 4)
3 wounds on Nebula(+1). (+1 from Emma: 2 skulls x 2 = 4)
3 wounds on She-Hulk(+1). (2 skulls x 2 = 4)
2 wounds on She-Hulk(+1). (3 skulls)
Altering Avenger:
3/7
15, prevents She-Hulk from attacking.
14, prevents She-Hulk from attacking.
19, prevents She-Hulk from attacking.
Notes:
Avengers markers on Cyclops and Wolverine.
R1: Nebula puts 1 wound on Emma as she forces her into Diamond Form. Gamora puts 1 wound on Scarlet.
R2: Gamora puts 5 wounds on Cyclops(botch), but Emma lessens it by 1 to keep him alive. Cyclops puts 4 wounds on Gamora with his ODSA. She-Hulk kills Cyclops. Wolverine takes OMs 2 and 3. Wolverine puts 3 wounds on Star-Lord. Nebula heals.
R3: Nebula puts 1 wound on Scarlet with VS, then puts another on her with her attack, which Emma lessens by 1. Scarlet uses Final Ruin to finish Nebula. Gamora uses Flanking Strike with She-Hulk to put 2 wounds on Scarlet, but Emma lessens it by 1 to keep her alive. Gamora uses Flanking Strike with She-Hulk to kill Scarlet. Wolverine takes OM3. She-Hulk puts a wound on Emma, forcing her into Diamond.
R4: She-Hulk heals. Gamora puts 1 wound on Wolverine. Gamora puts 4 wounds on Wolverine. She-Hulk puts a wound on Emma, forcing her back into Diamond. Wolverine puts a wound on Gamora.
R5: She-Hulk heals. Wolverine kills Gamora. She-Hulk puts a wound on Emma. Emma Frost puts 2 wounds on She-Hulk(botch). She-Hulk kills Emma Frost. Wolverine takes OM3. Wolverine kills She-Hulk.
R6: Star-Lord kills Wolverine(botch).
Star-Lord with 3/5 wounds. (2 life)
Another close finish. Anyone's game here and it looked like the Mutants were done but they managed to take down Gamora and She-Hulk, barely hanging on, but then Star-Lord finished off Wolverine for the win. Easily could have gone to Wolverine if the initiative win went the other way.
Army Test 3
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Scarlet Witch(360), Vision(340), Spider-Man(280), Hawkeye(220) (1200)
vs. Cap(240), Winter Soldier(240), Ms. Marvel(350), Quasar(370) (1200)
Spoiler Alert!
Attack Damage:
1 wound on Quasar(+2). (3 skulls)
1 wound on Winter Soldier(+1). (3 skulls)
4 wounds on Cap, kills him. (+skull from Vision: 3 skulls x 2 = 6)
Altering Avenger:
4/7
19+4=23, prevents Cap from using his normal attack.
16, prevents Cap from using his normal attack.
12+4=16, prevents Quasar's attack.
12+4=16, prevents Quasar's attack.
Notes:
Vision rolls 3 skulls and 3 shields.
R1: Scarlet takes 1 wound from GYS. Ms. Marvel puts 1 wound on Spidey, who gets help from Vision. Hawkeye puts a wound on Cap.
R2: Scarlet takes 1 wound from GYS. Hawkeye puts 3 wounds on Winter Soldier. Cap takes 1 wound from LEA. WS avoids LEA. Hawkeye kills WS. Vision puts 2 wounds on Ms. Marvel and removes OM3 from her card.
R3: Vision puts 2 wounds on Ms. Marvel, Vision takes 1 wound from Ms. Marvel's BD. Hawkeye kills Ms. Marvel. Hawkeye puts 1 wound on Quasar. Quasar kills Spider-Man.
R4: Quasar puts a wound on Scarlet. Quasar takes 1 wound from LEAs. Quasar avoids LEA, kills Scarlet. Vision puts a wound on Quasar and removes OM3 from her. Quasar puts 2 wounds on Hawkeye. Vision kills Quasar.
Hawkeye with 2/4 wounds. (2 life)
Vision with 1/6 wounds. (5 life)
Rough game for the opposing Avengers. Vision and Hawkeye were doing well while the opponent struggled on defense.
Army Test 4
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Scarlet Witch(360), Vision(340), Quicksilver(240), Jubilee(60) (1000)
vs. Fantastic Four (1000)
Spoiler Alert!
Attack Damage:
4 wounds on Human Torch(+5). (+1 from height, +skull from Vision, 2 skulls x 4 = 8]
1 wound on Invisible Woman. (2 skulls)
2 wounds on Invisible Woman(+1, botch). (2 skulls)
1 wound on Invisible Woman(+1, botch), kills her. (2 skulls)
3 wounds on Mr. Fantastic. (+1 blank from Vision, 2 skulls x 3 = 6)
Notes:
Scarlet, Jubilee, and Vision get Avengers markers.
Vision rolls 4 skulls, 1 shield, and 1 blank.
R1: Quicksilver puts a wound on Invisible Woman with the help of Vision. Fantastic puts a wound on Quicksilver.
R2: Jubilee kills Human Torch with the help of Vision. Thing puts a wound on Scarlet. Jubilee takes 1 wound from LEA, then puts a wound on Invisible Woman.
R3: Thing kills Quicksilver with Clobberin' Time. Jubilee kills Mr. Fantastic(botch) with the help of Vision. Vision puts 2 wounds on Thing.
R4: Thing puts a wound on Scarlet. Vision puts 2 wounds on Thing and removes XOM from him. Thing puts 4 wounds on Vision. Vision kills Thing.
Scarlet Witch with 3/4 wounds. (1 life)
Vision with 4/6 wounds. (2 life)
Jubilee with 1/4 wounds. (3 life)
Losing Human Torch out of the gate definitely put the game into the Avengers' favor. Then some late game cleanup by Vision rolling hot sealed the deal. Still felt like anyone's game throughout.
Re: The Book of Scarlet Witch (Avengers) (Public Testing)
2 wins and 2 losses, all reasonably close. I think one final tweak on the d20 roll should suffice. Going to lower the Avengers +4 bonus to +2. Giving the opponent just a little more of a chance to avoid it(I recorded all the numbers, and that would have helped on a couple of the rolls).
June 14th, 2021, 09:53 AM
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