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Old November 14th, 2015, 04:21 PM
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The Book of Superman (Kal-L)

The Book of Superman (Kal-L)

C3G DC WAVE 25
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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Origin set.
Its model number and name are #096 / Superman.

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Character Bio - "Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound! Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's Superman!

Yes, it's Superman, strange visitor from another planet, who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Superman, who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands, and who, disguised as Clark Kent, mild-mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice and the American way!"
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

NAME = SUPERMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = KAL-L

SPECIES = KRYPTONIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MYSTERY MAN
PERSONALITY = RIGHTEOUS
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5
POINTS = 370

FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
Instead of attacking with Superman, you may move him 4 additional spaces. If you do, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

MORE POWERFUL THAN A LOCOMOTIVE
When Superman attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra skulls. When he rolls defense against a normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

LEAP TALL BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND
Before moving normally, you may choose to subtract 4 from Superman's Move number. If you do, at any point before, during, or after moving, Superman may move up to 4 spaces with Leap. When moving with Leap, Superman has the Flying special power, but may not move up or down more than 80 levels in a single leap, and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Old November 14th, 2015, 04:39 PM
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

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Old November 14th, 2015, 05:52 PM
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

I really like what you have for this design, very thematic.

For Leap Tall Buildings, it seems a little weird that he leaps and then runs 4 spaces (followed by another 4 spaces after attacking). I'd prefer to see it trigger after his move, like this:

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LEAP TALL BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND
Immediately after moving normally, if Superman moved 4 or less spaces this turn, Superman may Leap. His Leap has a move of 4. When counting spaces for Superman's Super Leap movement, ignore elevations. Superman may leap over water without stopping, leap over figures without becoming engaged, and leap over obstacles such as ruins. Superman may not leap more than 80 levels up or down in a single leap. If Superman is engaged when he starts to leap, he will take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

Cool. I like the old-school powers.

I agree with Viegon in that it would seem more like a Superman leap if he kind of moved first. He'd still get to move 4 spaces after the leap if he attacks, so he'd still get some distance covered.

Otherwise, he'd be able to leap 4 spaces over onto a road or castle walk, move 7 spaces (reduced move of 4+3 for road), attack someone, and then move 4 more spaces.

Plus, the timing can be confusing where someone might wonder if after choosing to reduce move to 4, do you move at that point and then leap? Or leap and then move with your reduced rate?

I like that it's not "instead of moving normally", so he can be moved by other figures like MM and still Leap. I think the way Viegon wrote it, it would be clearer that he can move and then Leap as part of normal movement and get to do it via MM.


Nice job Karat

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But then again, Leap, move, attack, move would be Super fun too, and keep your opponent on their toes as not knowing where the heck he's going to end up

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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

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Cool. I like the old-school powers.

I agree with Viegon in that it would seem more like a Superman leap if he kind of moved first. He'd still get to move 4 spaces after the leap if he attacks, so he'd still get some distance covered.

Otherwise, he'd be able to leap 4 spaces over onto a road or castle walk, move 7 spaces (reduced move of 4+3 for road), attack someone, and then move 4 more spaces.

Plus, the timing can be confusing where someone might wonder if after choosing to reduce move to 4, do you move at that point and then leap? Or leap and then move with your reduced rate?

I like that it's not "instead of moving normally", so he can be moved by other figures like MM and still Leap. I think the way Viegon wrote it, it would be clearer that he can move and then Leap as part of normal movement and get to do it via MM.

Nice job Karat
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Old November 14th, 2015, 06:20 PM
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

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I really like what you have for this design, very thematic.

For Leap Tall Buildings, it seems a little weird that he leaps and then runs 4 spaces (followed by another 4 spaces after attacking). I'd prefer to see it trigger after his move, like this:
I actually meant to make it so he could do it at any point during his move, thus it should have been:
Quote:
LEAP TALL BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND
Before moving normally, you may choose to subtract 4 from Superman's Move Number. If you do, at any point before, during, or after moving, Superman may Leap. His Leap has a move of 4. When counting spaces for Superman's Super Leap movement, ignore elevations. Superman may leap over water without stopping, leap over figures without becoming engaged, and leap over obstacles such as ruins. Superman may not leap more than 80 levels up or down in a single leap. If Superman is engaged when he starts to leap, he will take any leaving engagement attacks.
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

It would be really nice for the JSA to have a heavy-hitter, so keeping his attack at 6 would be nice if possible. Would lowering his speed help keep his cost down? Compared to the other three Supermen, he already seems a little too fast in my opinion. Maybe drop his move to 6 or 7 and prevent him from using Leap Tall Buildings and Faster then a Speeding Bullet in the same turn?

As long as he stays under 400 I think we're good.

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Old January 19th, 2016, 08:29 PM
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

I've really been thinking on this and trying to decide the best course of action to take here. After all the feedback, I came up with these changes. I feel it lessens his strength to more appropriate levels and reduces his sharkiness. Thoughts?
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NAME = SUPERMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = KAL-L

SPECIES = KRYPTONIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MYSTERY MAN
PERSONALITY = RIGHTEOUS
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 8
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6
POINTS = 360?

LEAP TALL BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND
Before moving normally, you may choose to subtract 4 from Superman's Move Number. If you do, at any point before, during, or after moving, Superman may Leap. His Leap has a move of 4. When counting spaces for Superman's Super Leap movement, ignore elevations. Superman may leap over water without stopping, leap over figures without becoming engaged, and leap over obstacles such as ruins. Superman may not leap more than 80 levels up or down in a single leap. If Superman is engaged when he starts to leap, he will take any leaving engagement attacks.
MORE POWERFUL THAN A LOCOMOTIVE
When Superman attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra skulls. When he rolls defense against a normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
After moving and attacking, if Superman did not attack this turn, he may move 4 additional spaces and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH
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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

Seems like a good direction to me. I'd reword Faster Than like this:

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FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
Instead of attacking with Superman, you may move him 4 additional spaces, during which he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Re: The Book of Superman (Kal-L) (Breathing Period)

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LEAP TALL BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND
Before moving normally, you may choose to subtract 4 from Superman's Move number. If you do, at any point before, during, or after moving, Superman may Leap. His Leap has a move of 4. When counting spaces for Superman's Super Leap movement, ignore elevations. Superman may leap over water without stopping, leap over figures without becoming engaged, and leap over obstacles such as ruins. Superman may not leap more than 80 levels up or down in a single leap. If Superman is engaged when he starts to leap, he will take any leaving engagement attacks.

MORE POWERFUL THAN A LOCOMOTIVE
When Superman attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra skulls. When he rolls defense against a normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
Instead of attacking with Superman, you may move him 4 additional spaces. If you do, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH
Does he avoid the LEAs only on the 4 additional movement spaces?

From a turn order standpoint, the second and third powers should be switched. Attacking doesn't occur until after the movement phase.

I'm confused as to why he takes LEAs when he leaps and doesn't when he moves additional spaces. Maybe it's just me, but it seems unnecessarily complex.

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LEAP TALL BUILDINGS IN A SINGLE BOUND
Before moving normally, you may choose to subtract 4 from Superman's Move number. If you do, at any point before, during, or after moving, Superman may Leap. His Leap has a move of 4. When counting spaces for Superman's Super Leap movement, ignore elevations. Superman may leap over water without stopping, leap over figures without becoming engaged, and leap over obstacles such as ruins. Superman may not leap more than 80 levels up or down in a single leap. If Superman is engaged when he starts to leap, he will take any leaving engagement attacks.

MORE POWERFUL THAN A LOCOMOTIVE
When Superman attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra skulls. When he rolls defense against a normal attack, all blanks rolled count as extra shields.

FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET
Instead of attacking with Superman, you may move him 4 additional spaces. If you do, he will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

SUPER STRENGTH
Does he avoid the LEAs only on the 4 additional movement spaces? Yes

From a turn order standpoint, the second and third powers should be switched. Attacking doesn't occur until after the movement phase. Updated.

I'm confused as to why he takes LEAs when he leaps and doesn't when he moves additional spaces. Maybe it's just me, but it seems unnecessarily complex. I could go either way here, but the way I saw it is that when moving the additional spaces he was activating super-speed so to speak.
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