Goliath

[Lord Pyre]

He had 4 figures on his card. +1 attack for each figure, max +2. So burning two figures he still has the +2 attack for the first two attacks since he still gets +1 for each figure.

Unless I’m misreading something again

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by Lord Pyre

He had 4 figures on his card. +1 attack for each figure, max +2. So burning two figures he still has the +2 attack for the first two attacks since he still gets +1 for each figure.

Unless I’m misreading something again

Nope, you had it right. I just realize how many figures he had on his card. Thanks again. I'm feeling alot better about the team based on those results.

[IAmBatman]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: GOLIATH
VERSION TESTED

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = GOLIATH

UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
SPECIES = GARGOYLE
CLASS = PROTECTOR
PERSONALITY = NOBLE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 7

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 300

MANHATTAN CLAN LEADERSHIP
After an ordered activation with a Hero in the Manhattan Clan faction, if you revealed Order Marker:
• 1: 1 Manhattan Clan Hero ally that did not move this turn gains a move action with Stealth.
• 2: 1 Manhattan Clan Hero ally that did not attack this turn gains an attack action with +1 Attack.
• 3: 1 Manhattan Clan Hero ally that did not move or attack this turn gains a move and attack action, taking each action in any order.

MANHATTAN CLAN REVENGE
When a Manhattan Clan Hero ally is defeated by an opponent, you may place that figure, and any unrevealed Order Markers from its card, on this card. For each figure on this card, Goliath has +1 Attack, to a max of +2. After using an attack action, you may remove 1 figure from this card to maneuver Goliath up to 2 spaces and gain an attack action.

FACTION = MANHATTAN CLAN
PUBLISHER = DISNEY
KEYWORDS =
SYMBOLS = FLYING, SUPER STRENGTH

Team Test
Map: KAMAR TAJ
Units: Goliath (300), Lexington (140), Brooklyn (240), Broadway (220), Weather Wizard (100) (1000) vs JLA Trinity (1000)
Unit Summary: Gargoyles had some tanking ability here but didn’t have enough attack power to threaten the Trinity.
Game Summary

Spoiler Alert!

Initiative Trinity. Superman advances to a Tree of Life. All four Gargoyles advance on a Brooklyn OM with Goliath’s help. Superman picks up the Time Gem and uses a marker to have his allies advance. Weather Wizard advances and fails his special attack against Superman. Wonder Woman advances and attacks Weather Wizard, who gets a block from Brooklyn, but whiffs and takes 2 wounds. Superman uses the Time Gem and attacks Brooklyn for 2 wounds. Broadway engages Superman, Goliath engages Wonder Woman, Brooklyn fails an attack on Superman, and Goliath’s ability lets Lexington move and collect 3 scrap markers.
Wonder Woman uses a Justice Marker. Initiative Trinity with the help of a marker from Batman. Superman can’t hit Broadway, in part thanks to scrap marker. A scrap marker can’t save Weather Wizard from Wonder Woman. Batman advances. Weather Wizard had OM1. Batman moves onto the Inspiring Landmark and auto wounds Goliath from range but can’t hit with an attack, then auto wounds Broadway. Superman uses the Time Gem and attacks down on Broadway, but Lexington and Brooklyn’s auto blocks help him stay clean. Broadway engages Superman on even height, Brooklyn tries to move but is lassoed next to Wonder Woman. Goliath can’t hit Wonder Woman. Goliath gives Broadway an attack but he can’t hit Supes. Broadway heals a wound with Meat and Mead, then Superman hits him for 4 wounds. Three Gargoyles attack and do almost nothing, other than Goliath getting 1 wound on Wonder Woman. Lexington gets two Scrap markers back.
Wonder uses a marker. Initiative Gargoyles. Broadway heals 2 wounds. Goliath can’t hit Wonder Woman. Broadway can’t hit Superman. Lexington gets the last scrap marker. Wonder Woman’s lasso stops Brooklyn from moving. Broadway heals to full life. Superman punches Broadway for 2 wounds. Batman hits Goliath for 2 wounds, Brooklyn for 0 wounds, and Broadway for 0 wounds. Wonder Woman hits Brooklyn for 1 wound from height. Lexington gets 2 scraps back. Goliath hits Wonder Woman for 2 wounds. Brooklyn can’t move thanks to the lasso. Broadway with a +1 Attack and +1 Hit cannot hit Superman. Batman auto wounds Brooklyn for wound 4, hits Goliath for 2 wounds, and can’t hit Broadway. Superman goes with Time Gem and hits Broadway for 1 wound (scrap helped). Goliath can’t hit Wonder Woman and Broadway can’t hit Superman. Superman KO’s Broadway despite a scrap marker for help.
Wonder Woman uses her last marker. Initiative Trinity despite Lexington’s boost. Superman finishes Brooklyn. Goliath rescues the Order Markers. Superman uses the Time Gem to fly over and sock Lexington for 3 wounds. Goliath double attacks Wonder Woman but can’t hit and then gives himself a move away. Batman punches out Goliath, who had all the OM’s. Superman finishes off Lexington.

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [3] wounds on [Wonder Woman [3]]
• MANHATTAN CLAN LEADERSHIP: Gave [4] extra moves with stealth, [3] extra attacks with +1 Attack, and [3] extra move/attack combinations
• MANHATTAN CLAN REVENGE: [2] allies placed on Goliath’s card for max of +[2] attack bonus; [1] figures removed from extra move/attack action.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Batman with Full Life, Superman with Full Life, and Wonder Woman with 3 Life win..

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Team Test
Map: KAMAR TAJ
Units: Goliath (300), Hudson (200), Lexington (140), Tracer (190), Rocket Raccoon (170) (1000) vs Luke Cage (190), Misty Knight (180), Black Cat (180), Spider-Man (250), Daredevil (200) (1000)
Unit Summary:
Game Summary

Spoiler Alert!

Black Cat is a Marvel Knight and Spider-Man is her partner.

Hudson has the three Gargoyles move forward. Daredevil moves forward. Initiative Marvel Knights. Luke and Misty advance. Rocket moves to height. Spidey and Black Cat advance towards the Inspiring Landmark. Lexington grabs the Time Gem and gets all his scrap markers. Tracer advances. Daredevil double attacks Lexington for 1 wound and knocks out the Time Gem. Luke grabs the Gem and fails to hit Lexington. Hudson moves to a Tree of Life, Tracer takes the Inspiring Landmark, and Goliath advances.
Hudson has the Gargoyles move. Lexington takes a swipe. Misty moves. Initiative Gargoyles. Lexington hits Luke with an auto wound off of Hudson. Rocket advances and blasts Daredevil and Luke for 1 wound each. Spidey yanks Tracer off the Inspiring Landmark but can’t hit her. Black Cat auto wounds Tracer, then punches her for a second wound. Goliath punches Misty for 3 wounds. Lexington and Tracer fail on their attacks. Spidey and Black Cat attack Tracer, who would fall, but recalls herself in time. Hudson advances and gets the Time Gem but can’t hit Luke. Goliath takes out Misty. Tracer moves to a Tree of Life and attacks down on Luke, but can’t hit. Daredevil engages Lexington and gets hit with Support Fire. Daredevil finishes Lexington. Luke attacks Hudson, but Hudson parries.
Hudson has himself and Goliath move. Initiative Marvel Knights. Daredevil engages Hudson. Support Fire fails, but Hudson blocks both attacks. Luke can’t hit Hudson either. Goliath double attacks Daredevil, who is poised to go the distance, but Hudson uses the Time Gem and finishes him. Spidey pulls over Goliath and hits for 1 wound. Black Cat misses her damage die and attacks Goliath, socking him for 4 wounds. Hudson can’t hit Luke, Goliath can’t hit Black Cat, but Tracer does snipe Black Cat for 1 wound. Black Cat hits Goliath for 1 wound. Luke Cage takes a swipe, engages Tracer, Support Fire misses, and Luke can’t hit Tracer. Hudson engages Luke but can’t hit, Goliath punches out Black Cat, and Tracer attacks Luke from height but can’t hit.
Hudson has Gargoyles move. Initiative Marvel Knights. Spidey pulls over Hudson and hits him for 1 wound, taking out the Time Gem. Luke can’t quite finish Goliath. Rocket advances and hits Luke for 1 wound. Spidey hits Hudson for 2 wounds from height. Hudson moves onto the Inspiring Landmark. Goliath punches out Luke. Tracer takes the Time Gem and fails an attack up on Spidey. Spidey pulls over Goliath and punches him out. Hudson engages Spidey and hits for 1 wound.
Initiative Spidey. He moves to the Inspiring Landmark and fails to hit Hudson. Rocket can’t hit Spidey with his BFG. Tracer hits Spidey for 1 wound. Spidey pulls over Rocket and hits for 2 wounds. Hudson can’t hit Spidey, nor can Tracer. Spidey takes out Rocket.
Hudson moves next to Spidey. Initiative Spidey. He hits Tracer but she is chronal recalled. Hudson advances. Tracer snipes down on Spidey for 2 wounds. Spidey pulls down Tracer but the blank reroll saves her. Tracer can’t hit Spidey from height. Tracer uses the Time Gem and finishes Spidey.

• Damage Done (Normal Attack): Inflicted [9] wounds on [Misty Knight [3], Daredevil [2], Black Cat [3], Luke Cage [1]]
• MANHATTAN CLAN LEADERSHIP: Gave [0] extra moves with stealth, [3] extra attacks with +1 Attack, and [1] extra move/attack combinations
• MANHATTAN CLAN REVENGE: [1] allies placed on Goliath’s card for max of +[3] attack bonus; [3] figures removed from extra move/attack action.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Hudson with 2 Life and Tracer with 1 Life win.

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UNIT SUMMARY: One blowout loss and one slim win. Gargoyles are tanky and have a lot of moving parts but probably don’t have quite enough offense in faction yet. Goliath is solid but could probably drop 10 or so points if it helps things add up to 1000 points within the faction better.

[fret_gurglo]

Thanks Bats

1 - Big wins
2 - Wins
2 - Losses
2 - Big losses

Slightly more in the loss catagory, but I think that is fine. Goliath will actually be stronger with more Manhattan Clan members and there is enough wins to show they are a viable team.

[fret_gurglo]

Let's vote to put him into final editing

[Ericth74]

yea

[japes]

yea

[Yodaking]

yea

[Arch-vile]

yea

Looks like all the current Gargoyles add up to 1100 points. Would be interested to see if there are any other round point totals the Gargoyles can get to.

[fret_gurglo]

Originally Posted by Arch-vile

yea

Looks like all the current Gargoyles add up to 1100 points. Would be interested to see if there are any other round point totals the Gargoyles can get to.

Currently teams can add to 600, 800, 900 and 1100

[fret_gurglo]

This passes. Can someone move him to final editing for me please

[Ronin]

After using an attack action, you may remove 1 figure from this card to maneuver Goliath up to 2 spaces and gain an attack action.

Should this be "after Goliath uses an attack action"?

I'd probably let MCR (funny initialism) move any OMs to his card and not just unrevealed ones. Doesn't seem like the distinction matters and it's shorter to not specify.

I admittedly like "figures as markers" stuff but it might be cleaner for him to just use markers? Avoids conflicts if multiple cards are trying to do stuff with figures.

Cool design.