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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
To make it less dependent on Chandra how about they add a blaze counter, instead of recieving a wound from any special attack or a wound from lava damage.
They would take the lava damage or special attack wound if they already have a maximum of 2 markers on their card. Long live heroscape Last edited by The Long eared bat; July 17th, 2019 at 02:49 AM. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
I remain firmly against Extinguish.
To my knowledge there are only 2 units that suffer from water (beyond what most units do of having to stop on normal water), one is a D list squad that is only useful on lava maps and the other seems pretty reliant on having a bunch and a hero to buff and revive them. I've heard the flavor or thematic argument, and for one, this flavor is rarely used (and IMO for good reason) To me, there is nothing thematic about one member of a squad being in water and the rest being impacted by it. The obsidian guards and flame elemental, only punish the unit in the water. Also they are not made of fire, they are on fire. Water might temporarily make them weaker, but not for the rest of the game. To me there is nothing thematic about this weakness. I've heard how this is a 2 space unit so it won't happen that often, if that is true even more reason not to bother wasting text space for something that won't happen that often but when it does has a very negative impact on the player who brought the unit. I said early on if a weakness was born out of a need to tame the unit down, it feels right. If it's just because the unit looks a certain way then why the hell isn't our other fire based attacker also afflicted, and anything with anything resembling fire as an ability or in the their name also being penalized too? Maybe most importantly, extinguish threatens to removed the most interesting thing about this unit because water is the opposite element to fire. There is no decision point here, stay out of water, like pretty much every other unit that isn't buffed by water or immune to it. Without the negative power, staying out of water remains on the units goals, we've added nothing and threaten to remove this units uniqueness. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
If they can regain markers then extinguish seems fine.
Long live heroscape |
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
Jaur0n's argument is compelling. I'm still not against a weakness to water, but simple Water Weakness or the Fire Elemental's Negative Element may be better.
Or if we wanted something that ties to blaze, make it so that Firecats that start their turn in water are not boosted by Inflame. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
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This one feels good to me if we are determined to have a water themed weakness. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
Yup took the words right out of mouth in this one...
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
If we want a way to regain markers then we're going to need to brainstorm on that a bit. Heat Absorption wasn't much favored by pod members and I am strongly against a round-based d20 roll to regain markers--I think it clutters an otherwise very simple and exciting power with extra text, steps, and an extra trigger point.
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Re: [Pod 1] UKUSHIA PRIDE (Blazing Firecats) - Design
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Maybe simply rest: If at least two order markers are placed on <UNIT> and no actions are performed by <UNIT> may regain lost marker. |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Blazing Firecats) - Design
[QUOTE=Jaur0n;2293846]I like the Ukushisa in the name. Ukushisa Hell Cats or Ukushisa Pride seems good. (I lean toward Hell Cats )
What is UKUSHIA in reference to? All I find is some japanese references... Just curious... |
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Re: [Pod 1] UNIT NAME (Blazing Firecats) - Design
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My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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