The Book of C3G Destructible Object Rules

[IAmBatman]

First test in! I like the rules as is, but they can definitely make for strong combinations. My opinion is that this makes VDOs very valuable, even with weaker stats, so rather than tweaking the rules or making VDOs worth more than Batman, I think we should keep going as is, but lower the Sports Cars' stats even further (3 Life, 4 Defense?).

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: SPORTS CAR/DRAFTABLE VDO RULES
[COLOR=red]***Testing Sports Car with 4 Life and 5 Defense****[/COLOR=red]
Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Martian Manhunter (300), Black Canary (190), Oracle (110), Robin (Dick) (100), Green Arrow (150), Sports Car (x2) (200), Red Arrow (150) (1200) vs Fantastic Four (1,000), Wasp (I) (50), Iceman (150) (1200)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: Initiative Drivers of Prey. Martian Manhunter gets behind the wheel of the blue car and then uses Telepathic Dispatch to put Green Arrow in the driver seat of the black car and Oracle into the passenger seat of the blue car.
Mister Fantastic moves up with Wasp and Invisible Woman.
Martian Manhunter drives himself and Oracle forward, then fails to dispatch anyone.
Mister Fantastic moves up with Human Torch, Iceman, and Thing.
Martian Manhunter drives the car forward, but can’t get into attack range. He manages to get Red Arrow in the car with Green Arrow.
Mister Fantastic goes. Wasp stings the Blue Sports Car for a wound and Human Torch scorches it for two more. Mister Fantastic moves adjacent to the car, but can’t finish it.

Round 2: Initiative Fantastic Four. Mister Fantastic goes it alone and whiffs an attack roll on the Blue Car.
Martian Manhunter moves the Blue Car forward (ignoring Rubber Wrap and would be engagements) and hits Invisible Woman with the car. Then he exits and, following the Secret Attack Plan, punches Invisible Woman out. Then he dispatches Black Canary and Robin forward.
Mister Fantastic has Wasp engage Martian Manhunter and move adjacent to the Blue Car. She fails both sting attempts. Mister Fantastic Rubber Wraps Martian Manhunter, but can’t wound him.
Martian Manhunter KOs Wasp, then fails to dispatch anyone.
Mister Fantastic has Thing destroy the Blue Car. He hits it hard, causing 3 wounds more than needed to destroy the car, so Oracle takes 3 wounds and is placed next to Thing. Mister Fantastic finishes off Oracle.
Green Arrow drives the Black Car up and fails a Skill Shot on Mister Fantastic, despite a great D20 roll (19).

Round 3: Initiative Fantastic Four. Thing hits Martian Manhunter for a wound. Mister Fantastic can’t follow up.
Martian Manhunter hits Thing for 3 wounds and dispatches Robin up 4 spaces.
Thing hits Martian Manhunter for a second wound. Mister Fantastic fails to follow up.
Martian Manhunter hits Thing for two wounds and dispatches Black Canary and Robin.
Thing hits Martian Manhunter for three wounds. Human Torch fails a ranged attack on the Black Car. Mister Fantastic KOs Martian Manhunter.
Black Canary advances and screams at Human Torch for a wound. Robin follows and plinks Human Torch for a second.

Round 4: Initiative Fantastic Four. Thing fails an attack on Robin. Human Torch engages Black Canary and hits her for a wound. Black Canary whiffs (second time in a row) against Mister Fantastic and takes a second wound.
Black Canary goes Fists of Fury on Human Torch and takes him down to a life. Cupid’s Arrow from the Black Car finishes Human Torch off. Robin whiffs an attack on Thing.
Thing risks a swipe from Robin, but Robin misses, then Thing engages Black Canary and hits her for a wound. Mister Fantastic fails to finish her off.
Black Canary KOs Thing, Green Arrow aces Skill Shot to hit Mister Fantastic for two quick wounds, and Robin engages Mister Fantastic, but can’t hit him.
Iceman KOs Black Canary with a deep freeze. Mister Fantastic stretch walks away from Robin, then stretches back to swing at him, but Robin flips out of the way and back into engagement with Mister Fantastic.
Green Arrow drives the Black Car into Human Torch, but can’t wound him. Despite the car being adjacent to Human Torch, Green Arrow is not, and is still free to perform non-adjacent attacks (as is Red Arrow), so both Speed Shot and Skill Shot go off here. They both attack Iceman from height, with Red Arrow missing and Green Arrow hitting for two wounds.

Round 5: Initiative Drivers of Prey. Green Arrow backs into Mister Fantastic, but can’t hit him. Speed Shot hits Iceman for a wound, then Skill Shot aces again and finishes Iceman.
Mister Fantastic stretch walks away from Robin and hits the Black Car for one wound.
Green Arrow rams the car into Mister Fantastic for a wound. Speed Shot hits Mister Fantastic for a wound. Green Arrow rolls terribly on Skill Shot, but still finishes Mister Fantastic.
Unit Summary: Efficient auto-wounding, plus efficient figure movement, plus the ability to nullify the effects of engagement is a pretty powerful combination. The VDO rules were fun here but not only do I think the lowering to 4 Life and 5 Defense was a good idea, I’m leaning towards going further to make the occupants of the car more vulnerable. They get a lot of benefits for being in the car, so I favor there being risk. Especially since a sports car should not feel like a tank.

• FIGURE MOVEMENT: Excellent for moving Martian Manhunter up fast with Oracle and Green Arrow and Red Arrow together. The fact that it doesn’t get engaged and that it’s large (and gets around Rubber Wrap) made it a great way to hunt down Invisible Woman.
• FIGURE PROTECTION: Used more for mobility than protection in this match. However, it kept Green Arrow and Red Arrow out of engagement so that their powers could be maximized.
• HIT AND RUN 11: Blue Car (1 of 1) for (1) Wound against (Invisible Woman). Black Car (1 of 3) for (1) Wound against Mister Fantastic.
• WOUNDING OF OCCUPANTS: Oracle takes 3 Wounds from the car’s destruction.
• Damage Taken: Blue Car destroyed near the end of Round 2.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Green Arrow, Red Arrow, and Robin (Dick Grayson) win with Full Life.

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[Tornado]

Agreed. Try that.
Cool to see some carry over damage.

[IAmBatman]

Cool. Setting up for number two now. Should be able to get through it by some time tomorrow, hopefully.

[IAmBatman]

[COLOR=red]***Testing Sports Car with 3 Life and 4 Defense****[/COLOR=red]
Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Captain America (240), Ms. Marvel (350), Sharon Carter (90), Wasp (50), Sports Car (x2) (200), Beast (170) (1100) vs Black Canary (190), Oracle (110), Green Arrow (150), Red Arrow (150), Batman (I) (200), Robin (Dick Grayson) (100), Lady Blackhawk (110), Commissioner Gordon (90) (1100)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: Initiative Vigilantes. Commissioner Gordon places Batman six spaces forward with Bat Signal, then advances.
Captain America jumps into the driver’s seat of the Blue Car.
Red Arrow advances.
Wasp jumps into the passenger seat of the Blue Car.
Green Arrow advances.
Ms. Marvel jumps into the passenger’s seat of the Black Car.

Round 2: Initiative Vigilantes. The Commish advances Batman with Batsignal. Black Canary and Robin both move up.
Cap drives forward. He tosses his shield at Batman, but takes an Evasive Strike.
Batman punches the Blue Car for a wound. Robin is just out of range to be activated.
Ms. Marvel hangs tight and activates Sharon Carter. Sharon takes the wheel of the Black Car.
Black Canary goes. She can’t get in range, but does activate Robin, who hits the Blue Car for a second wound.
Ms. Marvel has Sharon Carter drive them forward in the Black Car, but Batman is too far away to hit and run. Sharon Cater double attacks Batman. He hits her for an Evasive Strike, then his armor absorbs the second shot. Ms. Marvel takes an Evasive Strike from Batman.

Round 3: Initiative Vigilantes. Black Canary moves next to the Blue Car, following the Secret Attack Plan, and destroys it. Wasp is KOed as a result of Black Canary being a wound over and Cap takes a wound. Cap places away from Black Canary, so Cupid’s Arrow doesn’t trigger, but Robin attacks Cap (and can’t hit him).
Captain America goes. He punches Black Canary for two wounds.
Black Canary goes. She hits Cap with her furious fists until he’s down to one life, and Cupid’s Arrow finishes him off. Robin hits the Black Car for a wound.
Ms. Marvel goes. Sharon hits Robin with the car for a wound. She fails both attacks on Black Canary. Ms. Marvel hits Black Canary for a wound.
Black Canary goes. She hits the Black Car for a wound. The car is out of Cupid’s Arrow range, but Robin follows up by putting a second wound on the car.
Ms. Marvel goes. Sharon hits Robin with the car for a second wound. Both she and Ms. Marvel fail to hit Black Canary from height.

Round 4: Initiative Avengers. Ms. Marvel goes. Sharon Cater hits Robin to KO him then Sharon fires at Canary, but can’t KO her. Ms. Marvel KOs Black Canary and Canary’s OMs go to Green Arrow thanks to the Contingency Plan.
Green Arrow goes. Red Arrow’s Speed Shot follows the Secret Attack Plan in hopes of overkilling the Black Car, but instead it hits it for just enough and Ms. Marvel and Sharon Carter come tumbling out. Green Arrow hits Ms. Marvel for a wound, but also takes one from the Best Defense.
Ms. Marvel goes. Sharon Carter and Ms. Marvel each hit Green Arrow for a wound.
Green Arrow goes. Both he and Red Arrow fail to wound Sharon Carter.
Ms. Marvel goes. Sharon Carter disengages and fails two attacks from height on Red Arrow. Ms. Marvel KOs Green Arrow. Batman gets OM3.
Batman goes. He fails to hit Sharon Carter.

Round 5: Initiative Avengers. Sharon Carter disengages from Batman and hits Red Arrow for a wound from height. Ms. Marvel hits Batman for three wounds.
Batman follows the Secret Attack Plan to KO Sharon Carter.
Ms. Marvel blasts Red Arrow for a wound from height.
Batman loses his last life to Best Defense.
Ms. Marvel KOs Red Arrow from height.
Commissioner Gordon hits Ms. Marvel for a wound and takes one back from Best Defense.

Round 6: Initiative Vigilantes. Commissioner Gordon follows the Secret Attack Plan and hits Ms. Marvel for a wound.
Ms. Marvel KOs Commissioner Gordon.
Lady Blackhawk takes a Best Defense wound.
Ms. Marvel hits Lady Blackhawk for two more wounds.
Lady Blackhawk engages Ms. Marvel and is KOed by Best Defense.
Ms. Marvel advances.

Round 7: Initiative Oracle. She takes wounds from Ms. Marvel as Ms. Marvel kites her, until Oracle finally engages on OM3, follows the Secret Attack Plan, and KOs Ms. Marvel. Oracle goes into Round 8 with one life.

Round 8: Oracle gets initiative, but Beast engages first, from height disadvantage. He rolls 4 skulls and finishes Oracle.

Unit Summary: This one felt pretty close, but the cars had a definite impact. The cars didn’t feel like tanks here, which was great, but had huge utility for movement and were big for the auto-wounds on Robin, which was very handy. I’d say they’re feeling very close to just right and the rules are still shining for me.

• FIGURE MOVEMENT: Great for keeping Ms. Marvel together with another attacker.
• FIGURE PROTECTION: Not a huge deal on this front as the car was easy enough to attack and wound.
• HIT AND RUN 11: Blue Car, never used. Black Car (3 of 3) for (3) Wounds on Robin.
• WOUNDING OF OCCUPANTS: Captain America (1) Wound, Wasp (1) Wound
• Damage Taken: Both destroyed.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Beast with Full Life wins.

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[IAmBatman]

3 Life and 4 Defense is feeling about right for the cars. They have great utility, so I like figures feeling a tad vulnerable in them, rather than like they're in tanks. Had a lot of fun with the rules in the last test, so I feel like we're closing in!

I hope we get at least one more public tester who feels the same!

Since it's going so well, I may end up doing only one more test here instead of two. We'll see!

[Tornado]

Sounds great. I may try another myself so I think one more is fine for now.

[IAmBatman]

Cool. I’m going to try to knock that out tonight. May just go forward as planned though, as I’m not sure how likely we are to get many other testers here than you and I.

[MrNobody]

I’m planning to test them.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I’m planning to test them.

Sweetness. The road to Batmobile is looking good!

[Tornado]

Maybe the Lawmaster as well.

[IAmBatman]

Sweet. The Lawnmaster at last ....

[Tornado]

I fought the lawn and the lawn won.