The Book of Comedian

[IAmBatman]

At most it'll clear 5 OMs in a round, one time. At least, it'll clear none. I don't think it's really that big of an effect, and its strategic impact is close to neutral.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

At most it'll clear 5 OMs in a round, one time. At least, it'll clear none. I don't think it's really that big of an effect, and its strategic impact is close to neutral.

Yeah, it doesn't really do that much. It'd be hilarious though if he dies the first turn, and half his team is on lava field spaces, and they can't move off and all die.

[Lord Pyre]

I know it's not quite 48 hours, but I'm not sure I'll be on in a few hours and I doubt there'll be any more significant changes, so I went ahead and updated the SP!

[SirGalahad]

Originally Posted by SP

IT'S ALL A JOKE
Whenever Comedian is destroyed, remove all unrevealed Order Markers from any all Army Cards that they are on.

Word conservation.

Winning initiative and destroying your own Comedian on OM2 would be a neat way to keep Doomsday from regenerating as quickly.

[Lord Pyre]

Originally Posted by SirGalahad

Word conservation.

Winning initiative and destroying your own Comedian on OM2 would be a neat way to keep Doomsday from regenerating as quickly.

Haha, neat idea. Killing your own figures is almost never worth it, but there might be a case.

[Lord Pyre]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Comedian

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150
- Give a brief overview. Took a while to pinpoint his cost, but I think I nailed it by the end.

Spoiler Alert!

TEST 1
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Gorilla Man (160)
Comedian’s shotgun hit Gman for 2 wounds, but Gman’s normal attack killed him in one hit.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Gorilla Man with 2 wounds.

TEST 2
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Tigra (170)
She took two wounds from his shotgun, but her beserker rage tore him to pieces.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Tigra with 2 wounds.

TEST 3
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Bane (190)
No contest. Bane’s way out of his league.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Bane with 2 wounds.

TEST 4
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Lightning Lad (180)
Comedian was blasted in one hit again, on the 2nd order marker.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Lightning Lad with 1 wound.

TEST 5
Map: Custom
Units: Azreal (170)
Flaming blades took out Comedian, who had height the entire time. Comedian’s power level is still lower than Azreal even when he has height, hmm…
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Azreal with 1 wound.

TEST 6
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Shocker (160)
This was closer to Comedian’s level. He pulverized Shocker with initiative switch going twice in a row. Shocker still has a double attack with 4 dice that can be boosted by height, while Comedian’s is only 3 that can’t be boosted. Probably about equal with Comedian’s squad killing power, though.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Comedian with 0 wounds.

TEST 7
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Speedball (150)
Comedian’s double attack eventually overpowered Speedball.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Comedian wins with 3 wounds.

TEST 8
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Batman (Terry) (150)
Terry is really good in one-on-one matches with non-flyers. Disrupted Comedian’s double attack and just took him out.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Terry with 0 wounds.

TEST 9
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Iron Man Mark II (150)
Iron Man flew to height, and when Comedian got in close enough, Iron Man took him out with his normal attack.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Iron Man with 2 wounds.

TEST 10
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Hawkeye (150)
Comedian closed the gap before Hawkeye dealt any wounds, but Close Combat Expert did Comedian in.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Hawkeye with 2 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150
- Give a brief overview. Comedian is awesome against squads. He kind of is a weaker Punisher. He blew away 1 or 2 thugs each turn.
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Street Thugs x2

Spoiler Alert!

Some thugs tried to flank him, but he blew them off of height, and just picked them off one (or two occasionally…) by one!
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Comedian with 3 wounds.

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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 130…
- Give a brief overview. Comedian used a ton of bullets, but couldn’t break the Cops’ 3 defense…
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Bad Cops x3

Spoiler Alert!

The Cops surrounded Comedian and overwhelmed him with attacks. He couldn’t roll more than one skull, which was easily blocked.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Bad Cops with 4 left.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160
- Give a brief overview. Comedian was awesome. Cap ran out first, drawing their fire as Comedian and Bucky blasted the thugs away in droves. The awesome thing about Comedian is since he removes all order markers, there’s no risk in putting markers on him if he’s almost dead. He fights hard to the end!
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Comedian, Captain America (C3G), War Machine, Bucky (720)
Vs.
Bane, Black Mask, Two-Face, Street Thugs x4 (720)

Spoiler Alert!

Both teams move up. A thug deals a wound to Bucky, and War Machine kills a thug in round 1. Bane’s Tactician protects a thug from Cap, but Bane himself takes two wounds from his shield throw. Two-Face grabs height by Bane, and rolls 6 dice against Cap! He still misses, somehow. Comedian blasts a thug. Two-Face hits Cap for a wound, and the thugs hit him for 2 more. Bucky shoots Bane for two wounds, and Comedian blasts two thugs and wounds TF for a wound. Cap grabs height by Two-Face and kills him. Bane moves to TF’s space and takes out Cap. Bane takes out Bucky as Comedian runs the other direction. Comedian then shotguns Bane to death from over the water. War Machine blasts a thug. The thugs try to swarm them but Comedian keeps them at bay, blowing multiple thugs away each turn. Black Mask and some thugs grab height, however, and finally put him down (Just as The Sound of Silence, his funeral music in the movie, comes on my Itunes, haha!). It was the first Order Marker of the round, so it reset everything. War Machine’s Armor Piercing Rockets obliterate all of the other thugs, since he had height and they didn’t dare get too close in fear of his gatling gun. It was down to Black Mask and War Machine at the end, and BM still couldn’t break his 7 defense.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? War Machine with 0 wounds.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 150-160
- Give a brief overview. He wasn’t quite as effective in this game, as the squads weren’t as prevalent, but he did his fair share of damage. It’s safe to say he’s virtually only good against squads, but he’s fun to play.
Map: Forsaken Waters
Units: Comedian, Bucky, Judge Dredd, Flash, Martian Manhunter (1000)
Vs.
Batman II, Robin, Batgirl, Azreal, Alfred, Cops x4 (990)

Spoiler Alert!

Batman starts with First Aid, Shuriken, and Police Scanner.
Both armies move up, Batman shuriken’s Flash for a wound. Flash runs forward and hits Robin for 2 wounds. Dredd kills 3 cops. Cops put a wound on Dredd. Dredd kills 2 more cops. Azreal and Robin double team Dredd, but neither can wound him. Comedian flamethrows Robin, Azreal, and Batgirl, but only Robin takes a wound. Robin hits Dredd for a wound. Martian Manhunter takes out Robin right before Alfred was going to extract him. Flash runs to Alfred and puts 2 wounds on him. Azreal takes out Dredd. Bucky kills a cop, and Comedian hits Azreal for 2 wounds. Batman misses Comedian.
Batman misses Bucky 3 times again. Bucky runs forward and kills Alfred. Azreal obliterates Comedian, ending the round on the 2nd Marker.
Azreal can’t hit MM. Bucky kills 2 cops. Batgirl dispatches Bucky with a batarang. Flash attacks Batman, but his Shadow Strike wounds him. Flash runs back and hits Batman for 3 wounds! MM takes out Azreal.
Batman heals with him first aid kit. Flash and MM pick off most of the last cops, and Batman and Batgirl slug it out with the last two. MM eventually takes out Batgirl, and Flash takes out Batman. MM finishes the last cop, and that’s game.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Flash with 3 wounds, and Martian Manhunter with 0.

[Lord Pyre]

He's looking like 150 so far. I'd personally like him to be more around 170ish, feels better for the character. But he is like a watered down Punisher anyway, so maybe it's good for him to be cheaper. The easiest way for him to raise in price would be to give him one more life, especially since he doesn't have normal range which forces him to get in much closer to the action. If you guys still don't like the 5 life, I think so far he's good at 150 then, at least until I get to the army tests.

[Hahma]

4 life and 150 would work for me.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Hahma

4 life and 150 would work for me.

Likewise. The Watchmen characters are a tad less "super" than mainstream DCU characters due to the higher realism, IMO. (Other than Doctor Manhattan, of course).

[IAmBatman]

Yep, that's what does it.

[Lord Pyre]

Playtesting proposition is now active! (Actually in half in hour since we're gonna go watch a movie right now )

Down to Johnny and A3n!

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Weird. All this time I thought it was the symbol on his forehead.