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The Book of Nite Owl

The Book of Nite Owl

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The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Watchmen Crimebusters Fast Forces set.
ts model number and name are #003 / Nite Owl.
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Character Bio - Daniel Dreiberg was fascinated by birds, and especially the predatory owl. When the superhero team known as the Minutemen were active, Dan saw one member, Hollis Mason, the Nite Owl, as his personal hero. Eventually he was taught by Mason, and when Mason retired, he took over the cowl becoming the new Nite Owl. He teamed up many times with fellow hero Rorschach, up until Nixon passed the Keene Act, which outlawed costumed vigilantes. Dan then gave up the cowl, even though it embittered his and Rorschach's friendship.
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Incoming Synergy:Outgoing Synergy:
  • Nite Owl may take a turn after any other Vigilante Hero you control, with his Vigilante Team-Up special power. Current Vigilantes.
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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

NAME = NITE OWL
SECRET IDENTITY = DANIEL DREIBERG

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = VIGILANTE
PERSONALITY = LOYAL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 3
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 130


VIGILANTE TEAM-UP
After revealing an Order Marker on any other Vigilante card you control and taking a turn with that Vigilante, you may take an immediate turn with Nite Owl. During this turn, Nite Owl can only attack figures engaged with that Vigilante and adds 1 additional attack die against an adjacent figure. After using this special power, you may not take a turn with any other figures.

OWL VISION
When Nite Owl attacks a figure on a Shadow Tile or adjacent to a Jungle Piece, the defending figure does not receive any additional defense dice for the Shadow Tile or Jungle Piece.

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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

Mini wise, we have three choices (Excluding his snow gear mini)

http://trollandtoad.com/p299929.html

http://trollandtoad.com/p299908.html

http://trollandtoad.com/p299926.html

I have the two double figures, and they both look fairly decent. His head is tiny which is the main problem, but all of them have it, so...






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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

I really think he should have a Drop Power like the Airborne Elite, its really iconic. I'd lose the Vigilante Team-up. I know the movie made it seem he does, but the comics don't. I also think he needs Ruthless Counterstrike or maybe Martial Artist?

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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

He teams up all the same times in the comics as he does in the movie. The film didn't add anything, and I'm pretty sure there was even more teaming up in the comic. He basically has never worked alone. First he worked with Rorschach, and did one mission with Comedian. And then in the span of the actual comic he worked with Rorschach again and then Silk Spectre as his partner then lover. I think it's thematic.
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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

He only teamed with Rorschach though, except at the end. I would argue that Silk Spectre should be an Adventurer over a Vigilante so there is that too. He and Comedian are just in the same place at the same time, they weren't partners. Not like Comedian and Dr. Manhattan were during Vietnam War anyway. But I digress.

While the Grapple gun seems likely, I recall Rorschach actually using one more than Niteowl. Maybe copy [redacted] from [redacted] instead of Grapple Gun.

I love the Owl Vision power though! Stats seem great too!

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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

Nite Owl built Rorscach's grapple gun, so I carried it over here, too. Griff suggested the Glide power, but I don't remember him ever actually gliding, while we know he has the grapple tech.

Silk Spectre is just the same as Nite Owl and Rorschach. She never "adventured," just fought crime and killed bad guys like the other guys.

A drop power could work. I've just never been a fan of drop powers, I dunno, hah!
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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

I have only seen the movie so I can't comment too much of the character & therefore cannot categorically say that Vigilante Team-Up isn't a good fit but from the movie I got the same feeling as what Spidey is saying that he really only teamed up with Rorshcach & was more a tag-along with the others. And that some sort of Drop power might be appropriate also.

Again Human life = 4.
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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

Agreed with Human Life 4.

I'd actually prefer avoiding a Drop power here as well. As I recall, he rode in the Owl a lot, but he didn't often "drop" from it, whereas he rarely worked completely solo in the book or the movie.

Silk Spectre as a Vigilante makes a lot of sense to me. She's too dark and edgy to be a fun-loving Adventurer.

Vigilante Team Up has mechanical interpretation issues, though, IMO:

VIGILANTE TEAM-UP
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and attacking a figure with Nite Owl, you may attack the same figure with any other Vigilante you control, rolling 1 additional attack die.

What happens with before attacking, while attacking, and after attacking powers on the second Vigilante's card? What triggers and what doesn't? I've fought against powers like this that isolate a bonding figure's attack phase in the past because they're setting us up for a nightmarish level of FAQs.

I'd rather see something more like this:

VIGILANTE TEAM-UP
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and taking a turn with Nite Owl, you may take a turn with another Vigilante you control within 6 clear sight spaces of Nite Owl. The second Vigilante may only attack a figure engaged with Nite Owl during this turn.

Or something along those lines.

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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

I didn't want it to be straight up bonding, even with the attack restriction. That said my wording was off, must have copied from the wrong place.


VIGILANTE TEAM-UP

After revealing an Order Marker on this card and attacking a figure with Nite Owl, you may attack the same figure with a single normal attack with any other Vigilante you control who is adjacent to the attacked figure, rolling 1 additional attack die.

Is that a little clearer (Aside from being a run on sentence ). It basically gives Nite Owl 2 attacks, except one of the attacks comes from someone else. Wanted to add the single line in there to prevent Punisher from killing everything.
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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

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VIGILANTE TEAM-UP
After revealing an Order Marker on this card and attacking a figure with Nite Owl, you may attack the same figure with a single normal attack with any other Vigilante you control who is adjacent to the attacked figure, rolling 1 additional attack die.

Is that a little clearer (Aside from being a run on sentence ). It basically gives Nite Owl 2 attacks, except one of the attacks comes from someone else. Wanted to add the single line in there to prevent Punisher from killing everything.
My issue wasn't a clarity issue, it was an FAQ/mechanics issue based on before attacking/while attacking/after attacking powers on other Vigilante cards. Does that make sense?

I'd rather see straight up bonding that specifically prevents that figure from moving or attacking non-adjacent figures.

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Re: The Book of Nite Owl ~~ Design Phase

You did it with [redacted].

Would we have problems with changing it to bonding with Robin, then? Who takes the turn first, etc?

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