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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Initial
yea
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Initial
This passes. Thanks everyone!
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - Initial Playtest
Finished the Initial with Karat. Karat will post the write-up.
To better match the intent, tweaked the wording on Fantastic Contingency from this: Quote:
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Last edited by toyhandle; September 1st, 2022 at 04:37 AM. |
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - Initial Playtest
Good stuff!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - Initial Playtest
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Reed Richards (Visionary)
Version Tested:
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Army Test Map: City Park Units: Reed Richards (240), Black Panther (210), Iron Man (270), Beast (200), Spider-Man (Avengers) (280) (1200) Nightwing (200), Starfire (210), Raven (190), Arsenal (190), Ravager (Rose) (210), Miss Martian (200) (1,200) RESULTS: The Illuminati struggled to wound the Titans fast enough, and the Titans pulled a solid win, with an unwounded Nightwing and Arsenal. Really fun match with the Inventions. Spider-Man (Avengers) makes a great Glyph grabber, backup bonder for when initiative is lost, and Glyphs like the Web Pistol and Anti-Grav Gauntlet get around his attack restriction (although that didn’t happen in this game). Thematic that he thrives around these smarties. Elongation was useful in the endgame, making Reed an elusive target, able to get into advantageous spots. Contingency Plan came in handy, although the wording in this power meant that the unblockables never went off, so we fixed the wording for next game.
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Version Tested:
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Army Test Map: Conflict Chernobyl Units: Reed Richards (240), Black Panther (210), Doctor Strange (320), Hawkeye (220),10pts of Spells (1000 points) Android 16 (250), Android 17 (280), Android 18 (270), Grid (200) (1,000) RESULTS: Went into this game with a tweaked wording on Fantastic Contingency to match the intent. The Androids were able to barrage through Magical Defense and Vibranium, while the Illuminati worked hard to dent the Androids. The 3 DBZ Androids took a beating, but none were destroyed. Solid win for the Androids. Reed moved quickly to try tying up the Androids and take the heat off of a near-death Strange, but Reed fell R3T1. When Reed died, Strange’s Teleportation Belt landed an unblockable on Android 18, which was nice. Reed's lack of Inventions and contingency afterward were sorely missed in R4. Not much information on him from this test other than that despite his defense, he is best saved for last, which should be obvious.
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Army Test Map: Conflict Chernobyl Units: Reed Richards (240), Black Panther (210), Iron Man (270), Beast (200), Rick Jones (80) (1000) Zatara (230), Zatanna (III) (250), Dr Strange (Secret Defenders) (280), Jinx (190), 50 points of Spells (Temporal Inversion, Condemn, Final Ruin, Lightning Bolt x2, Mystic Flames x2) (1,000) RESULTS: Solid win for the Illuminati. The Magical Defense team was not the most competitive build. Rick Jones turned out especially great for the Illuminati, as his defense subtraction pairs nicely with their modest attack numbers. The Inventions were key in this match. The Teleportation Belt moved Iron Man out of a pickle, since he couldn’t afford to take a LEA from Jinx (or generally). Once he was free, he landed a bunch of unblockables on Jinx and Zatara with his explosion attacks against bushes. Before that, Zatanna and Jinx were basically untouchable. Beast’s Agility makes him good for swapping and passing. The Shield Belt kept Beast alive for a little bit longer. The Contingency unblockable landed when Beast died. Not when Iron Man died, but it preserved his order markers.
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Toyhandle's THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Two solid losses and one solid win, but against a non-competitive team. Draftwise, I was able to come up with quite a few armies with him prior to testing. Obviously great in Illuminati builds, but also really loved how he played with Spider-Man (Avengers). In terms of Cost, he’s probably right where he needs to be. Possibly could go down to 230, but would need to see more testing. I was worried the glyphs could be over powered, but that wasn’t the case at all, they were a ton of fun. Very fun and themey. Player 2's THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Reed brings a lot of new strategy to this build but is a large target because of his OM saving nature plus the fact that destroying anyone leads to unblockables. Something to watch with this faction is the unfun factor which I feel is potentially high because they have a solid offensive and defensive wall with Black Panther already offering a wounding chance deterring engagements and then if you destroy someone there is now another chance for a wound you cannot stop. Does it make it unwinable? No. Is it broken? Also no. My worry is more the fun factor in facing these kinds of armies that just pile things on. They have a lot of good answers and Reed feels like a good addition to them. Just something I'd like watched closely as this faction develops. My personal quibbles aside, cost feels good for what Reed is bringing and he is definitely useful and draftable. All 3 powers got used at some point in all 3 games so overall the design itself gets a from me. |
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Playtes
I propose a vote to move to Public Playtesting.
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Playtes
Not sure what all changed with wording since it was originally proposed, but now it's being pushed too small. So I'd want to see where we can refine.
I don't think you need to mention Reed in the first bit of the last power, if the power is taking place before they are removed from the battlefield, it would already include him. |
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Playtes
This would get us there:
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Playtes
Updated, along with getting rid of "Reed Richards".
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Playtes
yea
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Reed Richards (Visionary) - VOTE for Playtes
yea
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