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Old July 8th, 2011, 10:40 AM
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Re: NM24 - Process

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Originally Posted by Lord Dragonix View Post
Word wise, I would prefer the power read pick a figure, pick the spaces, place both figures.
Anything done this way will be mechanically pretty clunky because choosing a figure is optional. Even if you make it into two different powers the space selection is going to happen before the figure selection because the space selection is mandatory while the figure selection is still optional. At this point we are sacrificing tight mechanics for theme and preference. That's okay, but we should be clear that we've made that decision before we consider something like this:

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Originally Posted by Bamf!
Nightcrawler may choose an adjacent small or medium figure when using the Bamf! power. Instead of moving normally, select one space or two empty, adjacent, same-level spaces within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightcrawler. Place Nightcrawler and any chosen figure on those spaces. Figures using the Bamf! power do not take leaving engagement attacks.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 10:41 AM
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Re: NM24 - Process



It says "you may" so it becomes optional to choose a figure. You could add this if you really wanted to clarify.

Instead of moving normally, you may choose one adjacent figure and/or one space within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightcrawler. Place Nightcrawler on the chosen space. You must place the chosen figure on an empty, adjacent, same-level space to Nightcrawler to move it with Bamf! Figures moved by Bamf! never take leaving engagement attacks.

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Old July 8th, 2011, 11:32 AM
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Re: NM24 - Process

My original wording took care of the order quite nicely I thought. Summarizing: choose to move normally or with Bamf! If moving with Bamf! you may choose a figure. Now choose a space. Move Nightcrawler to the space. If you chose a figure, it moves adjacent to Nightcrawler. No leaving engagement attacks.

With that style, you don't actually pick a space until the figure has been selected, and then it deposits itself, Theracus style, after the move.

At this point, if neither of the two versions of the cards posted will work, and if the separating into two powers wouldn't fix any problems, then I'd say my intended version of Nightcrawler won't function in Heroscape, at least as how others interpret how it functions.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 11:48 AM
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Re: NM24 - Process

I think we're having more of a linguistics problem than a mechanics problem, but if you wish to withdraw your card because our suggestions aren't helping you to achieve your vision for it I would certainly understand.

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Old July 8th, 2011, 11:55 AM
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Re: NM24 - Process

I still don't think I see where the problem is exactly...

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Old July 8th, 2011, 11:59 AM
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Re: NM24 - Process

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I still don't think I see where the problem is exactly...
He has a very specific textual style to which he wants the card to adhere. It is a good style for explaining the power, but it has mechanical issues that make it less universally accessible and is a style-break from the way other powers are written.

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Old July 8th, 2011, 12:03 PM
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Re: NM24 - Process

Bu I don't understand how this does not follow that style...

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Instead of moving normally, you may choose one adjacent figure and/or one space within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightcrawler. Place Nightcrawler on the chosen space. If you chose a figure, you must place it on an empty, adjacent, same-level space to Nightcrawler. Figures moved by Bamf! never take leaving engagement attacks.
Choose to move normally or with Bamf! Check
If moving with Bamf! you may choose a figure. Check
Now choose a space. Check
Move Nightcrawler to the space. Check
If you chose a figure, it moves adjacent to Nightcrawler. Check
No leaving engagement attacks. Check

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Old July 8th, 2011, 12:58 PM
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Re: NM24 - Process

Instead of moving Nightcrawler normally, you may choose any empty space that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightcrawler. Place Nightcrawler on the chosen space. Before moving Nightcrawler you may choose a small or medium figure adjacent to Nightcrawler. After you move Nightcrawler, place the chosen figure adjacent to Nightcrawler. When Nightcrawler starts to Bamf, if he or any other figure moved by Bamf are engaged they will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:10 PM
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Re: NM24 - Process

Instead of moving Nightcrawler normally, you may choose any empty space that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightcrawler. Place Nightcrawler on the chosen space. Before moving Nightcrawler in this manner, you may choose a small or medium figure adjacent to Nightcrawler. After you move Nightcrawler, place the chosen figure adjacent to Nightcrawler. When Nightcrawler starts to Bamf, if he or any other figure moved by Bamf are engaged, they will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:16 PM
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Re: NM24 - Process

Getting there. I'd sure like to see the figure placed onto an empty same-level space though since it allows him to Bamf! opponents.

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Old July 8th, 2011, 01:32 PM
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Re: NM24 - Process

Instead of moving Nightcrawler normally, you may choose any empty space that is within 6 clear sight spaces of Nightcrawler. Place Nightcrawler on the chosen space. Before moving with Bamf!, you may choose an adjacent small or medium figure adjacent to Nightcrawler. After moving Nightcrawler with Bamf!, place the chosen figure on any empty same-level space adjacent to Nightcrawler. If the chosen figure is engaged before moving with Bamf!, it will not take any leaving engagement attacks.

Nightcrawler is already protected from leaving engagement attacks because of Disengage.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 03:11 PM
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Re: NM24 - Process

Since there were no comments or corrections on the last wording of Bamf! I offered, here is the card with the current wording:

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