C3V/SoV-inclusive Power Rankings

[boromir96]

Originally Posted by Maklar the Silver Prince

Swaysil at C+? I suppose that there's a lot of synergies in VC pulling things around, but that feels low. If you've got 50 points left in your army, the only things I'd put ahead of her are the Marro Warriors and Me-burq-sa.

I certainly think she's better than Siiiv.

While that may be true in a vacuum, if you have 50 points left in your army and you can’t take Marro Warriors, you’ve built your army wrong. Spending 50 points on filler is just suboptimal army construction. (Marro Warriors are not filler, they just cost what a filler costs)

[Maklar the Silver Prince]

Originally Posted by boromir96

While that may be true in a vacuum, if you have 50 points left in your army and you can’t take Marro Warriors, you’ve built your army wrong. Spending 50 points on filler is just suboptimal army construction. (Marro Warriors are not filler, they just cost what a filler costs)

I'm sure there are armies at the B/B+ level where Swaysil is a positive addition. Swaysil also fits a clear role as clean-up. I'm not saying she's anywhere near the Marro 50 pointers, but she brings more to the table than any of her similarly ranked compatriots.

[Vydar_XLIII]

Originally Posted by Maklar the Silver Prince

I'm sure there are armies at the B/B+ level where Swaysil is a positive addition. Swaysil also fits a clear role as clean-up. I'm not saying she's anywhere near the Marro 50 pointers, but she brings more to the table than any of her similarly ranked compatriots.

Worth noting that in a previous large change to the rankings (late 2021, I believe, I didn't check exactly when this was) dok overhauled the rankings. The effect being units trending significantly downward to split up the overpopulated B tiers and fill out the underpopulated C tiers.

What is a C+ unit today is likely a B unit before that overhaul. That might be where the confusion lies.

[Maklar the Silver Prince]

Originally Posted by Vydar_XLIII

Worth noting that in a previous large change to the rankings (late 2021, I believe, I didn't check exactly when this was) dok overhauled the rankings. The effect being units trending significantly downward to split up the overpopulated B tiers and fill out the underpopulated C tiers.

What is a C+ unit today is likely a B unit before that overhaul. That might be where the confusion lies.

Probably. Fwiw (very very little), back when I was first testing Swaysil (I think Run Down was 9 or higher), I tested endgame scenarios against the Marro Warriors like a bajillions times, and she could be pretty tough on them. Marro Warriors definitely weren't considered A+ back then. Swaysil on her own in the endgame needs a bit of luck, but if you've got a couple speed bumps around the map left she can be pretty decisive.

Thinks she fits well in the B tier right now - maybe not, B-, everything in the B tier looks like it has some sort of synergy other than the big standalone heroes.