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Old December 31st, 2021, 02:37 PM
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

There's definitely a lot of text here for not the biggest payoff in the world. I think feeling him out in a game to see how to handle the recharge is probably a good idea. Otherwise my thought might be to cut genius escape and add something simpler like Wizard's Force Field X (If it's thematic of course).

Otherwise the marker mechanic is pretty cool.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

So Genius Escape is intending to sort of rep his Invisibility Serum, which is one of his more famous classic inventions. What about even combining the Laser and exoskeletons due to the sort of similarity:

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Start the game with 2 black Technology Markers on this card. Before combat dice or the 20-sided die is rolled for a figure you control, you may remove a technology marker from this card to do one of the following.
•Long Range Laser: If an opponent's figure would receive one or more wounds from the attack or special power, it receives one additional wound.
•Force Field: Add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.
After removing a Technology Marker from this card, you may not remove an additional marker until the next time you reveal a numbered Order Marker.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

Do you need the last line? I get that it's a balancing measure, but with only two markers you could safely cut it I think.

Instant Innovations needs "to a max of 2" or whatever number you want the max to be.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

Yeah I think that could be cut as well with the combination. Part of it was rooted in the Laser and Exoskeleton being slightly stackable, but I don't think it would be a problem now if we combined to two (even if we gave him 2 of each, letting him only burn one at a time would probably be fine comparatively).
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Old December 31st, 2021, 10:45 PM
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

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Definitely don't want to loose too much pull to Mind, so what about just like a "At the end of the round, if there is at least one revealed Order Marker on this card, you may replace all Technology markers on this card"?
I like that simplification.

I’d prefer to keep three markers for the first power f possible. Two options doesn’t feel worth the mechanical overhead.

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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

as of what is in the OP, you don't have room. Just for reference if you don't even get to the bullets in Genius Escape. So that's about how much you need to trim.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Old January 2nd, 2022, 01:26 PM
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

Maybe something like that and cut the second power? Could probably be further streamlined.

SIVANA INDUSTRIES TECHNOLOGY
Start the game with 3 black Technology Markers on this card.
•Long Range Laser: After an enemy figure receives one or more wounds, you may remove this marker to roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, that figure receives one additional wound.
•Temporary Exoskeleton: Before attacking with a figure you control, you may remove this marker to add one automatic skull to your attack.
•Force Field: After a figure you control is targeted for an attack, before dice are rolled, you may remove this marker to add one automatic shield to your defense.
After removing a Technology Marker from this card, you may not remove an additional marker until the next time you reveal a numbered Order Marker. At the end of the round, return all your Technology Markers to this card.

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Old January 2nd, 2022, 01:42 PM
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

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Maybe something like that and cut the second power? Could probably be further streamlined.

SIVANA INDUSTRIES TECHNOLOGY
Start the game with 3 black Technology Markers on this card.
•Long Range Laser: After an enemy figure receives one or more wounds, you may remove this marker to roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, that figure receives one additional wound.
•Temporary Exoskeleton: Before attacking with a figure you control, you may remove this marker to add one automatic skull to your attack.
•Force Field: After a figure you control is targeted for an attack, before dice are rolled, you may remove this marker to add one automatic shield to your defense.
After removing a Technology Marker from this card, you may not remove an additional marker until the next time you reveal a numbered Order Marker. At the end of the round, return all your Technology Markers to this card.
considering he only has three and they are done for the round is it really needed the bolded part?

If you drop the second power and eliminate the bold part above...it fits.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

Trying this to go leaner:

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SIVANA INDUSTRIES TECHNOLOGY
Start the game with 3 black Technology Markers on this card. Before combat dice or the 20-sided die is rolled for a figure you control, you may remove a technology marker from this card to do one of the following.
•Long Range Laser: If an opponent's figure would receive one or more wounds from the special power, it receives one additional wound.
•Temporary Exoskeleton: Add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled.
•Force Field: Add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.
At the end of the round, you may replace 1+X Technology Markers on this card, where X is equal to the number of revealed Order Markers on this card.

GENIUS ESCAPE
When Doctor Sivana rolls defense dice against an opponent's normal attack:
•if at least 2 shields are rolled, Doctor Sivana takes no damage and may immediately move up to 2 spaces. He will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
•if at least 2 skulls were rolled and the attacking figure is within 5 clear sight spaces of Doctor Sivana, it receives one wound.
You may choose which effect to use first.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

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Trying this to go leaner:

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SIVANA INDUSTRIES TECHNOLOGY
Start the game with 3 black Technology Markers on this card. Before combat dice or the 20-sided die is rolled for a figure you control, you may remove a technology marker from this card to do one of the following.
•Long Range Laser: If an opponent's figure would receive one or more wounds from the special power, it receives one additional wound.
•Temporary Exoskeleton: Add one automatic skull to whatever is rolled.
•Force Field: Add one automatic shield to whatever is rolled.
At the end of the round, you may replace 1+X Technology Markers on this card, where X is equal to the number of revealed Order Markers on this card.

GENIUS ESCAPE
When Doctor Sivana rolls defense dice against an opponent's normal attack:
•if at least 2 shields are rolled, Doctor Sivana takes no damage and may immediately move up to 2 spaces. He will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
•if at least 2 skulls were rolled and the attacking figure is within 5 clear sight spaces of Doctor Sivana, it receives one wound.
You may choose which effect to use first.
This fits

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

Cool. Updating the SP. If people are cool with that, I'll propose initial here in a bit (wanna do a public test or two first).
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Re: The Book of Doctor Sivana (Breathing)

Japes did say it is a little tight (no symbol room, and his lowest font size). Switching the recharge to just full charge if at least one revealed would save a little space, and still keeps a bit of the synergy with Mind, whereas the math one might accidentally push him more toward a pilot role, so I'll make that change as well per the suggestions.
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