The Book of Master of the Hunt

[Aldin]

Originally Posted by Overlord Hikash

I always found it strange that Mortal Strike mentions MotH's "Normal Attack". It's not like he has a special.

I think it's all about consistency and clarity. HS tends to be very precise about whether it is talking about normal attacks, special attacks or both. In theory, it also gives guidance in what to do if some power on another card gave him a special attack. What if there was an "Infernal Power" treasure glyph which caused all the hero's normal attacks to be treated as special attacks? There's an advantage there in avoiding things like Smoke Powder and Counterstrike, but any powers the hero has that work with their "normal attack" wouldn't function.

~Aldin, who actually thinks a treasure glyph like that could be really cool

[Overlord Hikash]

Originally Posted by Aldin

I think it's all about consistency and clarity. HS tends to be very precise about whether it is talking about normal attacks, special attacks or both. In theory, it also gives guidance in what to do if some power on another card gave him a special attack. What if there was an "Infernal Power" treasure glyph which caused all the hero's normal attacks to be treated as special attacks? There's an advantage there in avoiding things like Smoke Powder and Counterstrike, but any powers the hero has that work with their "normal attack" wouldn't function.

~Aldin, who actually thinks a treasure glyph like that could be really cool

That... would be a realy cool glyph, actually. I may need to make one...

[William099]

Do powers like One Shield Defense negate the Master of the Hunt's Mortal Strike?

[orgsbane]

No, because its not a attack. You simply place more markers on the card.

[William099]

Surprisingly enough it actually does... since Mortal Strike is all rolled in as part of the normal attack. Someone over in Migol's book found this out of Crixus'. Thought I would post it here just for reference...

Originally Posted by Arch-vile

[Sujoah]

Originally Posted by orgsbane

No, because its not a attack. You simply place more markers on the card.

For future reference, this was just asked in Migol's book and it's been previously ruled that Migol can at most take one wound from the Master of the Hunt (assuming that Migol rolled at least one shield).

[Yodaking]

I don't know how that conclusion was reached but it does not look at all correct to me. Mortal Strike clearly states, "After attacking" and "roll 1 attack die for each wound inflicted in that attack," followed up by "place 1 additional wound marker." Seems pretty cut and dried that the Mortal Strike power is taking place after the attack phase is finished, and thus the defensive powers phase as well. That the number of die rolled as part of Mortal Strike is determined by the number of wounds previously inflicted, which was already mitigated by the defensive powers in question. It does not say to roll 1 die for every skull rolled, but rather for every wound inflicted. Big difference and pretty clear cut as to turn order of the different power effects.

[orgsbane]

Agh! My bad! I thought you were talking about the Warforged resolve thing, where they roll the auto defense die. Totally messed up on the name of the power. My bad.

[itsbuzzi]

This guy is such a boss. 4 attack and 4 defense seem to be the "hot spot" not too weak not to powerful to get targeted. 6 life isnt bad either. Abilities are amazing on life figures as well. Give that bad boy range...oh wait he already got it. Yup hes amazing

[orgsbane]

Yup. I always use him with my Romans. They make a great shield wall, while he rains down Javelins from behind, Plus, it works for General Wars!

[Unhinged Manchild]

That's a good question about that mortal strike power vs the one shield defense. I don't think that official ruling that "migol only takes one wound" makes sense.
The mortal strike power says after attacking to roll for the extra wounds, and migol's one shield says "the most wounds he can take for this attack is one." I don't think mortal strike would be considered in "this attack" because it occurs after rolling attack, defense, and placing the wound on migol.

I wouldn't play it any other way. Perhaps an explanation? A link to where they originally decided this whole thing?

[Rÿchean]

Originally Posted by brandonwiker

Perhaps an explanation? A link to where they originally decided this whole thing?

There was a pre release discussion thread:

http://www.heroscapers.com/community...28#post1231528