The Book of Green Construct (Helicopter Gunship)

[IAmBatman]

Two big wins, a narrow win, and a big loss. So far I could see a bump to 140 based on that and the analysis included.

[quozl]

Originally Posted by Red Eyed Jedi

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT GL Construct Helicopter Gunship

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass.

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass.

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass.

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass.

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass.

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass, I really dig the GL constructs!

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass.

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass, obviously with the Green Lanterns only though. The Constructs open those builds up though.

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 130 seems about right.
- Give a brief overview. The Gunship is created and moves, as Kilowog pumps up the Lanterns. Kyle moves adj to it and the other Construct. (which goes down soon after) The Gunship and Kyle hold off the Criminals for a bit. It deals a couple of wounds to the Wrecking Crew and the Skrull, before being destroyed by them. Kyle Sustains it once only.
Map: Invasion (all optional rules, no glyphs)
Units: Team 1. Green Lanterns: Hal Jordan, (350) Kilowog, (310) Kyle, (300) Green Lantern Constructs: Helicopter Gunship, (130) Mech Warrior, (120) 1210 points
Team 2. Piledriver, (190) Thunderball, (190) Bulldozer, (190) Wrecker, (230) The Hood, (180) Sandman, (210) Skrull Infiltrator (X2) (20) 1210 points

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1.
Kilowog drops batteries as he pumps his team up, making a Construct each turn. He doesn't attack and moves those constructs out, then himself back. Kyle moves in adj to them both to end the round, he gets an attack in but is blocked.
Sandman storms in, followed by Piledriver and Bulldozer. Who both miss their wrecking Crew roll each turn.

Round 2.
The Hood, cloaks up flying out. He attacks Mech w/h dealing one on each attack, and destroying it.Kyle can't Sustain it. Sandman moves up.
Kyle Controls the Gunship. It moves forward and attacks w/HMSA on Dozer w/Tree dealing one, continues on sandman W/Tree who blocks.
Wrecker moves up, gets the WC roll. Piledriver moves, attacks w/h on Gunship, 3 skulls and Kyle removes a battery.
Kyle moves, attacks Sandman w/tree dealing 2.
Sandman moves attacks Gunship w/h, but misses. Heals one.
Kyle attacks w/h on Sandman dealing 3, and KB destroys him. Skrull is placed.

Round 3.
Wrecker moves attacks the Gunship w/h dealing one, then makes his WC power! Piledriver attacks the Gunship dealing one. Kyle sustains it though.
Kyle controls the Gunship, it attacks W/HMG on Skrull taking it out. Continues on Piledriver w/h dealing one.
Hood, cloaks up moves attacks the Gunship w/h dealing one, and Kyle's Willpower can't keep it. Dozer moves, attacks w/Headbutt on Kyle w/h who removes a Battery.
Kyle attacks w/h on Dozer dealing 3 and KB away. (t4)
Piledriver moves attacks Kyle w/h who blocks. No WC power.
Kyle attacks w/h on Piledriver 6 skulls deals 4 and KB misses. (t5)

Round 4.
kyle w/h attacks Piledriver who blocks and KB into Dozer deals one to both. Piledriver is destroyed.
Wrecker moves, attacks Kyle w/h dealing 2. He throws a Battlement adj but misses. WC roll is successful! Dozer moves adj to Kyle standing on the Ruined Battlement. He attacks w/Headbutt on him, but is blocked.
Kyle attacks Dozer destroying him. throws the battlement back. Hood dealt one.
Wrecker throws the Ruined Battlement at Kyle but misses, then attacks it! Destroying it dealing one to Kyle. Thunderball moves.
Kyle moves attacks Wrecker dealing 3 on a whiff.
Hood cloaks up, fly's out. Attacks w/h on Kyle, who removes both of his batteries.

Round 5.
Hood attacks Kyle, taking him out. Ambition activates Thunderball, who moves up.
Hal moves attacks Wrecker, dealing one only, but KB into Thunderball deals another.
Wrecker attacks Hal who blocks. Thunderball throws a battlement at Hal but misses, then attacks it w/B&C but misses!
Hal attacks Wrecker destroying him.
Wrecker dead OM.
Hal attacks w/h on Thunderball, dealing 3 and KB away. Hal throws the Battlement at him destroying him, as he and it both fail to block. Skrull is placed.

Round 6.
Hood attacks w/h on Hal and is blocked.
Hal moves attacks Hood w/h dealing 2. Fearless charges attacking Hood again, 6 skulls destroys the Hood.
Hood dead OM.
Hal moves attacks Skrull, destroying it.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Team 1 wins. Hal and Killowog unwounded. Hal with all Batteries.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 130 feels low after this one.
- Give a brief overview. The Gunship and it's Heavy Machine Gun Mow down the Hand, destroying several each turn. It also takes out a few Man-Bats as well. It was protected well, thanks to his Teammates. Took wounds and was destroyed by the Elite Assassins.
Map: Invasion (all optional rules, no glyphs)
Units: Team 1.Green Lantern Construct: Helicopter Gunship, (130) Green Lantern John, (340) Jacosta, (180) Meteorite, (210) Baron Zemo (170) 1030 points
Team 2. Hand Ninja, (X3) (255) Elite League Assassins, (150) Man-Bat Assassins (150) Kirigi, (175) Elektra, (170) Boomerang, (130) 1030 points

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1.
Hand and Manbats move out.
Meteorite moves.
Hand Ninja move, 1 attacks Meteorite w/h dealing one. Elektra moves.
John basket carries the crew out, landing adj to Meteorite. He attacks and destroys a Hand.
Elite move up. Hand move attack Zemo and John but are blocked.
John creates the Gunship behind the Pod, Then attacks w/HMG on the Hand taking out 3! (t4)

Round 2.
John repositions the pod, Controls the Gunship forward of them. It attacks w/MGSA on Man-Bats who blocks.
Man Bats, after one is Trapped, fly and miss the grab. Don't attack because of Johns Strike. Hand move.
Gunship attacks W/HMG on Manbat w/Bush that blocks.
Manbats fly and Grab, John and Meteorite, Then attack, dealing one to Jacosta as she Sacrifices, John Shield strikes another. (t1Manbat left) Hand move attack and deal 3 to Zemo w/h on a whiff, Jacosta and John both block.
Gunship attacks w/HMG on Hand, taking out 3 Hand and then the Last Manbat w/h.
Elektra moves, attacks w/h on Meteorite, Jacosta Sacrifices though. Remaining Hand retreat to SZ.

Round 3.
John moves, attacks w/h on Elektra, dealing one.
Elektra moves attacks w/Barrage, dealing one to Jacosta, then one on Meteorite, but Jacosta Sacrifices again. destroying Elektra. Hand hold in SZ.
John moves the Pod. doesn't attack. Controls the Gunship instead. It moves and attacks the Elite, which blocks.
Boomerang moves, attacks w/Returnarang on Zemo w/h, dealing 2! Jacosta Sacrifices again. destroying herself!
Meteorite moves, attacks w/h on Boomerang who blocks.
Elite move, attack Gunship destroying it.

Round 4.
Kirigi moves.
John attacks an Elite, it Vanishes.
Elite 1 is Trapped! attack Zemo w/h, he blocks and John removes a battery but no Strike.
John attacks w/h on an Elite destroying it.
Kirigi moves, Shogi's (moves) Zemo away then attacks w/h on him but is blocked. Hand move.
John moves, attacks w/h on Kirigi dealing one after his resist.

Round 5.
Elite w/h attack Zemo, 1 is trapped, the other is blocked as John removes last battery. Hand move adj attack and deal one to Zemo.
Zemo dead OM.
Elite move, miss Meteorite, John dealt 1. Hand attack Meteorite destroying it.
John attacks Kirigi dealing 2, but he's Undead.
Elite attack and destroy John on a whiff.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Team 1 wins. 2 Hand Ninja Squaddies, Kirigi with 1 wound, Boomerang with 3 wounds, 2 Elite Hand Assassins all survive.

Thoughts on points?

[IAmBatman]

Looking at the results, it was played frequently with Kyle (his best partner) and played against a lot of squad/common builds (his best match up). It performed pretty well overall, but had a stinker or two in there where being glass jawed hurt it. 130 holds up for me, but I don't think 140 would be unreasonable either.

[Hahma]

It certainly will help GL's vs. squaddies that can chip away at GL's batteries with multiple attacks. If given protection, it seemed to be able to hang around, otherwise a bad defense roll can mean the end of it.

Special defense units may be able to help counter the machine gun and limit it from multiple attacks.

I'm not a fan of optional rules like KB used much in testing that REJ used, but whatever.

Certainly no lower than 130, with 140 being a ceiling. This thing can be just one of those swingy units that can either die quickly or do a lot of damage.

[IAmBatman]

I'm starting to wonder if we should make Knockback non-optional to help folks bust up all of those silly Puppet Master pods.

[quozl]

Since we're emphasizing heroes over squads and the heli is really only strong against weaker figures, which is mostly stuff like street thugs, beat cops, hand ninja, and the like, I think I'll go with 130.

I propose we move to Final Editing at 130.

[IAmBatman]

yea - and I'm always in favor of squaddies getting a much needed beatdown.

[Hahma]

yea

Though the the GL's did quite a number on Wrecking Crew and Co.

[quozl]

True, but in my initial the Wrecking Crew wrecked the lanterns!

[Hahma]

Originally Posted by quozl

True, but in my initial the Wrecking Crew wrecked the lanterns!

Good, "dem green freaks deserved a good beatin'"

[Lord Pyre]

Yea

[johnny139]

Yea