The Book of Johnny Thunder

[Karat]

Yea

[johnny139]

Yea

Is Gullible a reuse for the personality here?

[Tornado]

Yea

[Ronin]

Originally Posted by johnny139

Yea

Is Gullible a reuse for the personality here?

Yep. Carl Creel.

yea

[Spidey'tilIDie]

Yea, I'm stoked because these two are long overdue.

[quozl]

Got initials done. Just need to type them up. Also will post checklist answers.

One question for the checklists, is there a way to negate your own figures? Because that would be super powerful to do to Johnny.

Competitive Checklist

Spoiler Alert!

Does the design disrupt opponent's Order Markers in a way that offers a net gain in turns taken with strong figures versus the turns your opponent can take with strong figures (Ozymandias, Joker (I), Meteorite)?
No

Does the design offer auto-wounding that either doesn't require taking turns or is otherwise extremely efficient (War Machine, Jason Voorhees, Cosmic Cube)?
No

Does the design immobilize figures or prevent turn-taking (Blob, Spider-Girl, Diablo, Green Lantern Alan)?
No

Does the design move opponent's figures in a way that's easy to pull off and can move figures multiple spaces in multiple directions (Graviton, Magneto, Vulture)?
No

Does the design allow for moving friendly figures without taking turns, or for moving 2+ friendly figures while still taking a turn (Martian Manhunter [I], Green Lantern John, Angel)?
No

Does the figure allow for two figures, one of them being a wide range of possible figures, to both attack on a single Order Marker (Zombie, Robot, Iron Patriot, Ms. Marvel, Rocket [II], Martian Manhunter [II], Nebula, Baby Groot, Havok)?
No

Does the design offer any sort of passive boost outside of a narrow set of figures (Star-Lord, Sage, Brainiac 5, Captain America, Batman [III])?
No

Does the design help keep your allies alive just by being nearby (Daring
Decoy, Aaron Cash, Jocasta, Weather Wizard)?
Thunderbolt just helps Johnny stay alive.

Is it OK for the design to have defensive abilities that could make it essentially unkillable in some matchups or endgame situations (Cosmic Cube, Healing Factor, Master Martial Artist)?
You may have to break engagement with Thunderbolt in order to attack Johnny.

If the figure has auto-destroy powers or powers that can force the opponent's figures to attack each other, are they balanced for strong opposing figures and/or boosts that can make the powers more reliable (Puppet Master, Psycho-Man, Enchantress)?
N/A

Is the figure likely to earn its value many times over by either running out alone at the start of a battle (pre-eval Crow, Solomon Grundy) or by sitting in the startzone until the end of a battle (Arnim Zola, Silk Spectre)?
Johnny needs protection for that to happen. We should test with protection units.

Will synergies in the design create concerns for future designs (Mad Thinker, pre-eval Enchantress, Star-Lord)?
No

Does the design combo particularly well with one of the design concerns above (Magma)?
No

Consistency checklist

Spoiler Alert!

Are the character’s name and secret identity listed in a consistent format with the rest of the project? If the character shares a name and/or secret identity with another character is it properly clear whether or not they are the same character?
Check

Consider the listed Species. Are the design’s power level, point level, and statistics (life, move, range, attack, and defense numbers) within the established range for that species? If it’s an outlier, is there thematic justification for this?
Check

Consider the listed Uniqueness. Does the power text properly reflect whether the figure is a Hero or a squad, and whether it is Event, Unique, Uncommon, or common? If it’s Event, are the powers written with consideration for Event Hero rules? If it’s Uncommon, are the powers written to avoid stacking? If it’s common, are the powers written with this in mind?
Check

Consider the Class and Personality. For each, is it a reuse? If so, is the character thematically consistent with other members of that Class or Personality? If not, is there a preexisting Class or Personality that would fit as well that could be used instead? Are there any existing synergies with that Class or Personality that are undesirable or that this Design would create that would be undesirable for preexisting members of that Class or Personality?
Check

Consider the listed Size. If the figure is double based, is it Large or Huge? Is the chosen miniature’s physical size consistent with other miniatures in the chosen size category?
Check

Consider the listed Height. If you stack hexes up next to the figure, does the number listed for the height match up the layers of stacked hexes that match the miniature’s physical height?
Not sure, since I do not have the figures.

Consider the listed Life number. Is this number consistent with other figures of the same species?
Yes but I think we should lower the Life on Thunderbolt.

Consider the listed Move number. Is this number consistent with other figures of that power level?
Check

Consider the listed Range and Attack numbers. Is this number consistent with other figures that use the same type of weapon or power to attack?
Check

Consider the listed Defense number. Is this number consistent with other figures of the same or similar species and with the same or similar armor or other defensive equipment?
Check

Does the figure have Super Strength? If it does or doesn’t, was this determined on the standard of that character demonstrating three things: 1. The ability to throw a car 2. The ability to survive a fall from a tall building and 3. The ability to knock back another person when punching them?
Check

Examine all of the special powers. Are there other powers that fit the same theme already in existence in the project? If so, can they be reused? If they can’t, can those other powers be used as a basis for the mechanics and wording?
Check

Examine any movement powers. Do they keep the figure’s speed consistent with other figures of their species and power level?
Check

Examine any offensive powers. Do they keep the figure’s offensive potential consistent with other figures with the same powers and power levels or skills and weaponry?
Check

Examine any defensive, healing, or other tanking powers. Do they keep the figure’s survivability consistent with other figures of the same powers or power level or species and armor class?
Check

Examine any leadership powers. Do they exceed the activation potential of the best existing leaders? If so, is there thematic justification for this?
Check

Consider any powers that reference darkness, electrical, figure movement, fire, gas, ice, kryptonite, light/sensory, magical, poison, psychic, stealth, or water-based abilities. Do these behave in similar ways to other powers of this type, including mentions of immunities?
Check

Is it clear for all special powers what phase of the turn and how they are triggered, what phase of the turn they are active in, and when and how they cease being active?
Check

Are special powers listed in game, round, and turn order?
Check

If a special power includes a D20 roll, does it make sense to list a number by the title?
Check

If a power is being reused, are the title and wording copied accurately?
Check

Has the power title or a very similar one been used before with vastly different mechanics?
Check

[IAmBatman]

Zatanna doesn't specify enemy Unique Heroes, unfortunately (I'm terrible at factoring in cheese). Should Sole Command go on Thunderbolt instead? She can't negate Event Heroes.

[Tornado]

She can make the T-Rex no power!
Hmm, may have to consider fixing that. That feels like an unnecessary mechanic to have to design around.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Tornado

She can make the T-Rex no power!
Hmm, may have to consider fixing that. That feels like an unnecessary mechanic to have to design around.

As her LD, I would be just fine changing her to opponent's Unique Heroes. You all would just need to propose that and vote it through.

[Ronin]

Not what I'm seeing....

EPIWDNIM 17
Start the game with 3 black Negation Markers on this card. After taking a turn with Zatanna, if you have at least 1 Negation Marker on this card, you may choose any opponent's unique figure adjacent to Zatanna. Roll the 20-sided die, subtracting 3 from the roll if the chosen figure has the Magical Defense special power. If you roll 17 or higher, place a Negation Marker on the chosen figure's Army Card and remove all unrevealed Order Markers from it. All of that figure's special powers are negated for the entire game.

At least in Johnny's case, I wouldn't worry over much about a way to negate him that costs > 200 points anyway, though, unless that thing were also really great for Thunderbolt in some other way.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Not what I'm seeing....

At least in Johnny's case, I wouldn't worry over much about a way to negate him that costs > 200 points anyway, though, unless that thing were also really great for Thunderbolt in some other way.

Well, thank goodness for that.

In other news, I've enrolled in the School for Kids Who Can't Read Good ....

[Tornado]

You already cut the cheese.