The Book of King Ghidorah

[quozl]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

Not a fan of having such negative powers as the Head Markers on an Event Hero like this. If he goes down early cause you loose a head on the first roll, that's basically losing a third of your army. In this case it is rare enough that you will have to cost him as if he has Triple Attack and that's just gonna make it worse when you lose a head.

That's only true if he's attacking Huge figures.

[Tornado]

Exactly why I did not want two head markers or for the head loss to be variable but that is what others wanted so I went with that.


Edit: Good point quozl but as King of the Monsters he should do good against huge figures, consistently.


Regardless, I am OK testing it out to see how it goes.

[tcglkn]

I took it to mean he could only attack the same figure if it was huge. That's essentially just gonna turn him into a Huge figure counter draft which makes him even worse.

[quozl]

Originally Posted by tcglkn

I took it to mean he could only attack the same figure if it was huge. That's essentially just gonna turn him into a Huge figure counter draft which makes him even worse.

It does mean that but you'll just spread out your figures to make sure he doesn't get multiple attacks.

I do think "lose a head after 7 wounds" works fine too.

[Tornado]

He has a really good ranged explosion attack, so hopefully he can soften up a more normal army as they try to close on him. His Wing power will be better against more normal armies as well.
Hard to say without testing him.

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah, limited triple attack feels a bit strange here. I don't know theme of like, any of these big monsters so keep that in consideration.

I think a few more balanced options would be...
Plain triple attack with a lower attack number (Like 5 or so?).
If the cutting-off-the-hydra-heads is necessary, then make it a bit EASIER to do, and not as big a detriment to Ghidorah. Instead of losing a whole attack in his triple attack, could always subtract an attack die for the rest of the game or something. Especially since he'll use his two other abilities on his other two turns, it might not be a big deal.


I think my preference is to not lose the heads (From a mechanical standpoint, not a theme one) if that's workable. Keeping these big beasties as consistent as possible I think is the best way to balance them.

[Karat]

Originally Posted by quozl

It does mean that but you'll just spread out your figures to make sure he doesn't get multiple attacks.

I do think "lose a head after 7 wounds" works fine too.

I definitely think this approach would work better mechanically and thematically.

[Tornado]

I always want to include the theme so I want a head to come off but he does not lose a head every battle either. I just think if that head loss(or losses) is set to a static number it will give the design consistency.
I am cool with opening up the triple attack to all. That will give him a ton more firepower overall. Would want to try it at 6 to start.

[Lord Pyre]

Yeah keeping the "losses" at a set amount of wounds would help the consistency as well.

[Tornado]

NAME = KING GHIDORAH
SPECIES = KAIJU
UNIQUENESS = EVENT HERO
CLASS = INVADER
PERSONALITY = CRUEL

SIZE/HEIGHT = HUGE 20

LIFE = 15

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 7

POINTS = 1000?

THREE HEADED MONSTER
When King Ghidorah attacks with a normal attack, he may attack two additional times or one additional time if there are 7 or more wound markers on this card.

WING LIGHTNING BOLTS
Once per round, instead of attacking, you may roll 6 combat dice. For each skull rolled, choose a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of King Ghidorah to receive a wound. You may not choose the same figure more than once, unless that figure is huge.

GRAVITY BEAMS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 7. Attack Special.
King Ghidorah can only use this special attack once per round. Choose a figure to attack. Roll 8 attack dice against the chosen figure, and 4 dice against all figures adjacent to the chosen figure. After using this special attack, for each destructible object destroyed in that attack, each defending figure receives an additional wound. Ghidorah is not affected by this special attack.

FLYING
SUPER STRENGTH

[IAmBatman]

I mean, since this guy basically gets his name from the hydra, I really like the head theme and the reuse of the head markers. I don't think losing his ability to triple or even double attack is bad overall -- I think it happening randomly on an unlucky roll and being super swingy is bad.

I think having him lose a head when he has X wounds and another when he has Y wounds lets him be much more consistent.

I kind of like the idea, also thematically, of him being a figure that is at his strongest early, often feeling overpowered, but that you can wear down over time, as opposed to a figure that feels weak early and charges up. Basically the bizarro Godzilla. I think that contrast would make their match up sing.

[Arkham]

Here's what I'd suggest, based on feedback:

THREE HEADED MONSTER
When King Ghidorah attacks with a normal attack, he may attack:
• 2 additional times if there are no more than 4 Wound Markers on this card; or
• 1 additional time if there are 5-9 Wound Markers on this card.

WING LIGHTNING BOLTS
Instead of an attack, you may reveal an "X" Order Marker on this card to roll 6 combat dice. For each skull rolled, choose a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of King Ghidorah to receive a wound. You may not choose the same figure more than once, unless that figure is huge.

GRAVITY BEAMS SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 7. Attack Special.
King Ghidorah can only use this special attack once per round. Choose a figure to attack. Roll 8 attack dice against the chosen figure, and 4 dice against all figures adjacent to the chosen figure. After using this special attack, for each destructible object destroyed in that attack, each defending figure receives an additional wound. Ghidorah is not affected by this special attack.

Every 5 wounds inflicted, he loses a head, thus attacks one fewer time. 15 wounds = dead.

Instead of an attack on WLB, will allow it to be traded in for one of his attacks early on.