Suggestions for the C3V

[Knox]

Originally Posted by Tmac2200

I think that's fair. I do have a follow up question though, does C3V have any interest in using Revna, Volarak, or maybe a different new general in their future designs? Would SoV accept units using those generals?

I'm unaffiliated with VC but my guess would be no. Nothing from AoA is canon bc AoA didn't release.

And I'm fairly confident no one affiliated with VC wants to run into legal trouble for stealing AH's IP. All VC customs should be original

[Tai-Pan]

What does C3V learn from AoA?

Could the door open for unpainted miniatures? I know I have expanded my collection by at least 150 miniatures by using Nolzurs, Deep Cuts and other unpainted miniatures.

Or is unpainted a reason AoA failed and something to be avoided to ensure success going forward?

I think painted miniatures must continue, but to expand options with unpainted really is an interesting question.....

[AMIS]

Originally Posted by Tai-Pan

What does C3V learn from AoA?

Could the door open for unpainted miniatures? I know I have expanded my collection by at least 150 miniatures by using Nolzurs, Deep Cuts and other unpainted miniatures.

Or is unpainted a reason AoA failed and something to be avoided to ensure success going forward?

I think painted miniatures must continue, but to expand options with unpainted really is an interesting question.....

I hope not...AoA failed and you can argue it was mismanagement of the campaign all you want but without painted mini's it's not heroscape.

[caps]

Originally Posted by Tai-Pan

What does C3V learn from AoA?

Could the door open for unpainted miniatures? I know I have expanded my collection by at least 150 miniatures by using Nolzurs, Deep Cuts and other unpainted miniatures.

Or is unpainted a reason AoA failed and something to be avoided to ensure success going forward?

I think painted miniatures must continue, but to expand options with unpainted really is an interesting question.....

It is unclear how the venn diagram of "people angry about unpainted Heroscape" and "people that use C3V" overlap. However, we've long been aware that there will come a day that restricting ourselves to only prepainted will no longer be viable.

We're talking about it.

Originally Posted by Knox

I'm unaffiliated with VC but my guess would be no. Nothing from AoA is canon bc AoA didn't release.

Yeah, this. As far as I'm concerned, Revna, Volarak, and Thormun (as a general) don't exist. As far as I can tell many others inside VC feel the same way.

[IAmBatman]

I'm not following how using Revna or Volarak would be any different from a legal perspective than using Jandar or Utgar is.

[Knox]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I'm not following how using Revna or Volarak would be any different from a legal perspective than using Jandar or Utgar is.

Yeah those were two separate comments.

1. Volarak and Revna are not canon bc of the failure of AoA, and I think C3V introducing new factions would not be helpful

2. The actual designs from AoA are AH's IP, and a lot more concerning to re-use than just the templates provided by classic heroscape (with custom designs)

[brak88]

I'd prefer if things/idea/custom rules for SOV just basically remained as was before AoA. Maybe if there's straight up no realistic painted options anymore it can be looked into, but keep things going as normal is my preference personally.

Maybe consider five figure squads or multi life squads, but definitely don't need Revna, too similar to Valkrill and Utgar, or Volarak, too similar to Ullar and Aquilla. Maybe if the new generals had a more signature feel to them they could be needed.

[Taeblewalker]

Originally Posted by brak88

I'd prefer if things/idea/custom rules for SOV just basically remained as was before AoA. Maybe if there's straight up no realistic painted options anymore it can be looked into, but keep things going as normal is my preference personally.

Maybe consider five figure squads or multi life squads, but definitely don't need Revna, too similar to Valkrill and Utgar, or Volarak, too similar to Ullar and Aquilla. Maybe if the new generals had a more signature feel to them they could be needed.

Agreed.

[Vydar_XLIII]

I am only expressing my personal opinion. My personal opinion does not reflect the opinions of and path forward for the C3V group as a whole.

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Revna and Volarak are not canon and ought to remain that way. [EDIT: This extends to the new species and planets as well.]

Multi-life squads pose a logistical issue that is not easy to solve without manufacturing a set of bases and wound markers exclusively for this purpose. If an acceptable way around this is found, I see no reason why this couldn't happen, should a design warrant it.

Similarly, I think that 5 figure squads and the "Integrated" species are ideas that could be used should a design warrant it.

Personally, I do not have any interest in finding "official" proxy sculpts for released AoA cards through the C3V. Other members may think differently. My gut feeling is that this will happen regardless of whether it has a C3V stamp on it or not.

I also think that C3V and SoV should put up a united front on these issues. Meaning, for example, that if C3V chooses not to design Revna and Volarak units, the SoV will not accept them either.

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Again, just my own personal thoughts. I would; however, like to hear more unique opinions on the painted/unpainted issue. I think there are good points to be had on both sides of this issue.

[SchismaticSounds]

Yes, I think he was suggesting these unused ones as possible new vc

[Mat2424]

Originally Posted by SchismaticSounds

Yes, I think he was suggesting these unused ones as possible new vc

Yes it could be so cool for this price for new C3V.

[XThorSavageX]

I really hope that this link works. As I am a little bit of a boomer. I had this designed/commissioned with intention of creating a figure for one of our favorite factions Aquilla. I have been sitting on it for a bit…


I know there’s been quite a debate as far as finding the right miniature that would suit for the faction. Whether we go dwarf, insect, or Native American but I think this one really suits.

But I believe you guys know what I’m referencing an AQUILLA FLAG BEARER.


Skills I would leave it up to you guys as I am sure there’s already talks as far as what you guys want out of the figure. But I would just love to have this missing piece added to the game and trust that y’all would get it dialed in! As I didn’t want to submit a soV because figuring out abilities and points is beyond me.

I think this is a good way that we can have a figure that anyone can have access to. As it is a 3-D model.( I know I know , but hear me out)

Being that it is a 3-D model and an STL file it would be a FREE download and infinite amount of figures can be printed. It’s 2023 and the ability for 3-D manufacturing is insane. The quality and some of the companies that use 3-D manufacturing is crazy to think about.

People already 3D print some of the harder to find units that have been released prior and are either hard to find and/or expensive

And with the fact of it being unpainted, there is certain figures that were exclusive and repaints, too. Not saying to open up the doors to all unpainted figures but for something that I believe a gap is missing and lots of people would love to see I think this fills the gap! And it’s not completely uncharted territory.

Even as we can upon the release of AoA (rip) that’s the route that all the figures were going to be, unpainted. I know it wasn’t the popular idea in the work but this figure would be free access to it and with many people being in the heroscape Facebook group offering 3D services I think that people wouldn’t mind paying the cost of 3D model if they don’t have access to local printer. And if they want to pay more for a painted option again there is people in the group that I’m sure can offer a service.

As far as a 2 space, if that is an issue the other c3v flag bearer is as well so it blends in with that.


All I’m saying is give him a chance.

Hope y’all enjoy. We would love to see it!


Ps if a name hasn’t been chosen I would love to see Thorin Thunderbelly or something with Thor ��


https://imgur.com/a/aI68Sy4