The Book of Miek

[AlexH12]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

I'll grab the initial here.

Awesome! Can't wait for the tests!

[Ericth74]

I'll try to get it done by Monday

[AlexH12]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

I'll try to get it done by Monday

Nice! What armies are you thinking of running?

[Ericth74]

Originally Posted by AlexH12

Nice! What armies are you thinking of running?

Still working on it, any suggestions? Assuming all will be run with Korg.

[AlexH12]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

Still working on it, any suggestions? Assuming all will be run with Korg.

Korg, Meggan, and Stan Lee are the obvious picks. Not sure what else would work with them, maybe look at Korg's playtests. It's been too long for me to remember what those armies were

[MrNobody]

Figures that can ignore Miek’s friendly fire (like Jason, for example) seem like solid picks.

[IAmBatman]

There's an argument for him with like Korg, Captain America, and some Talons.

[Ericth74]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Miek

Version tested:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = MIEK

SPECIES = SAKAARAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = GLADIATOR
PERSONALITY = VENGEFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 200

WARBOUND
While Miek is adjacent to at least one friendly Gladiator, add 1 to his Attack and Defense numbers. After Miek defends against an attack from an opponent's figure, you may move one Gladiator figure you control.

CHEMMING
When rolling for initiative, you may add 1 to your roll for each Unique Gladiator Hero you control engaged with an enemy figure.

NEVER STOPPING
At the end of your player turn, Miek must move adjacent to an enemy figure within 3 clear sight spaces that was attacked by a friendly figure this player turn, if possible, then roll an unblockable attack against each figure adjacent to him. Roll each die separately.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

Army Test
Map: Custom Map - Elm Street
Units: 810 pts - Korg, Miek, Meggan, Baron Zemo 170 VS 810 pts - Wrecking Crew, Skrull Infiltrator

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R3T2 Wrecker 1 wound - Never Stopping
R3T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R4T1 Piledriver 1 wound
R4T2 Piledriver 3 wounds(dead)
R4T3 Bulldozer 1 wound
R5T2 Thunderball 2 wounds
R5T3 Thunderball 4 wounds(dead)



Warbound: Helped quite a bit with both Meggan and Korg being Galdiators.

Chemming: Added to initiative in almost every round.

Never Stopping: Did 2 wounds, 1 to Wrecker and 1 to his teammate Korg.

Meggan picks Korg as her target.
R1 - Both teams start moving forward.
R2 - Thunderball drops a tree on Korg, doing a wound. Meggan attack Wrecker but misses from range. Wrecker puts a wound on Korg. Miek moves forward.
R3 - Zemo's team adds 2 to Initiative because of Chemming. Meggan gains Korgs powers and attacks down on Wrecker, doing 1 wound. Miek moves and rolls an unblockable against Wrecker and Korg but misses both. Piledriver attacks Miek, who blocks it. Meggan gains Korgs powers and attacks down on Wrecker doing 3 wounds. Miek puts a wound on Wrecker and Korg via Never Stopping, but misses Piledriver. Meggan attacks down on Wrecker, doing a wound and taking him out. 2rd order marker was on Wrecker. Korg attacks Piledriver doing 2 wounds. Miek rolls and misses Korg and Pilepriver with Never Stopping. Bulldozer attacks Meggan doing a wound. Thunderball attacks Korg from range doing a wound.
R4 - Plus 3 to Initiative roll. Miek attacks down on Piledriver doing 1 wound. Piledriver attacks up on Korg who blocks it. Miek again attacks down on Piledriver doing 3 wounds to remove hi from the game. Thunderball attacks Korg from range doing 2 wounds to take him out. Miek moves adjacent to Meggan and attacks up on Bulldozer doing a wound. Thunderball attacks Miek from range and does a wound.
R5 - Plus 2 to Initiative roll. Thunderball hits Zemo for a wound from range. Miek attacks down on Thunderball rolling 5 skulls but Thunderball somehow rolls 5 shields to block it. Bulldozer hits Miek for 3 wounds, leaving him with 1 life left. Bulldozer attacks Miek who blocks it. Zemo X-Markers Thunderballs turn. Miek attacks down on Thunderball doing 4 wounds, taking out Thunderball.
R6 - Plus 2 to Initiative roll. Bulldozer attacks down on Miek rolling 6 skulls on 6 dice, taking the Gladiator out. Zemo moves closer to Bulldozer and attacks up from range doing 1 wound. Bulldozer attacks Meggan doing 1 wound to her. Bulldozer puts a 3rd wound on Meggan. Meggan puts 1 more wound on Bulldozer. Zemo cancels out Bulldozers last turn.
R7 - Bulldozer kills Meggan. Zemo takes out Bulldozer.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Baron Zemo 1 wound/3 life left

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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: 1000 pts - Captain America 240, Korg, Miek, Meggan, Zombie VS 1000pts - Trinity

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R1T3 Superman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R1T3 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T1 Superman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T1 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T2 Superman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T3 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R4T2 Batman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R5T1 Wonder Woman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R5T2 Wonder Woman 3 wounds
R5T3 Wonder Woman 1 wound - Never Stopping



Warbound: Only used while Korg was alive.

Chemming: Helped win initiative in round 2.

Never Stopping: Did 10 wounds, but 4 were to a friendly figure in Korg.

Cap starts with the Amulet, Meggan pick Korg.
R1 - Wonder Woman uses a Marker. Superman attacks Zombie who blocks it. Korg attacks Superman and its blocked. Miek moves forward and misses both Korg and Superman with Never Stopping. Zombie takes 4 wounds from Superman. Meggan attacks Superman from range and its blocked. Miek puts a wound on Superman and Korg.
R2 - Wonder Woman uses a marker. Cap throws his shield at Superman and a tree, both are blocked. Miek puts a wound on Superman and Korg with Never Stopping. Zombie attacks Superman but its blocked, and heals a wound. Miek misses both Korg and Superman with Never Stopping. Superman attacks Zombie and its blocked. Korg attacks Superman and its blocked. Miek does a wound to Superman and Korg with Never Stopping. Superman flattens Zombie with an attack of 7 and Zombie blanks hit roll. Korg hit Superman for 1 wound. Miek hits Korg for 1 wound with Never Stopping. Superman attacks Korg but its a rock wall and takes a wound himself.
R3 - Wonder Woman uses a marker. Cap attacks Superman and Sups blocks it. Miek misses Sups and Korg with Never Stopping. Superman kills Korg. Meggan hits Superman from range and takes him out. Batman moves 3 JLA markers to Wonder Woman and order Markers to Batman. Batman attacks Miek but its blocked.
R4 - Wonder Woman uses a JLA marker. Batman attacks down on Cap from height, Cap takes a wound. Cap attacks Batman who blocks it. Miek puts a wound on Batman with Never Stopping. Batman attacks Cap, who blocks it. Miek misses Batman with Never Stopping. Cap kills Batman. Batman moves Markers to Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman moves.
R5 - Wonder Woman uses a JLA Marker. Wonder Woman attack Cap who blocks it. Cap attacks Wonder Woman doing a wound. Miek puts a wound on Wonder Woman with Never Stopping. Wonder Woman kills Cap. Miek attacks Wonder Woman doing 3 wounds to her. Wonder Woman attacks Miek for 3 wounds. Meggan attacks Wonder Woman from range, she blocks it. Miek puts a wound on Wonder Woman with Never Stopping to end the game.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Meggan Full 4 life, Miek 3 wounds/2 life left.

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Army Test
Map: Custom Map - Royal Wakadan Forest
Units: 1000 pts - Captain America 240, Korg, Miek, Meggan, Zombie VS 1000 pts - Luke Cage, Songbird, Daredevil 200, Ronin 180, Spider-Man 250

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R3T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R3T3 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R3T3 Ronin 1 wound - Never Stopping
R4T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping(dead)
R4T2 Luke Cage 1 wound - Never Stopping(dead)
R4T2 Ronin 1 wound - Never Stopping

Warbound: Helped some when Korg was alive.

Chemming: Add to rolls in a couple of rounds. Helped win initiative in one round.

Never Stopping: Did 6 wounds, unfortunately 3 were to his teammate Korg.

Cap gets Zombies Amulet. Meggan picks Korgs stuff.
R1 - Lots of movement. Luke kills a tree.
R2 - Cap attacks a Tree of Death doing 2 wounds. Zombie does 2 wounds to Luke Cage. Ronin misses Cap. Cage hits Zombie for a wound. Songbird puts a wound on Zombie. Spider-Man puts 3 wounds on Zombie. Daredevil puts 3 wounds on Cap. Cage kills Zombie.
R3 - Cap attacks Daredevil who blocks it. Ronin puts 2 wounds on Korg. Cage puts a wound on Korg. Miek puts a wound on Korg via Never Stopping. Spider-Man webs up Korg and attacks him but its blocked. Korg attacks Ronin, who blocks it. Miek moves adjacent to Korg and Ronin and put wounds on both of them via Never Stopping. He also takes a LEA from Luke Cage. Ronin puts a wound on Korg. Cage puts the 5th wound on Korg.
R4 - Cap puts a wound on Daredevil. Daredevil takes Cap out. Cage attacks Korg who blocks it. Korg attacks Cage and does a wound. Miek puts wounds on Korg, Cage and Ronin, removing Korg and Cage from the game. Spider-Man webs up Miek and does 2 wounds to him. taking him out.
R5 and 6 - The remaining Crime Fighters hunt down and kill Meggan. Megan does take out Ronin.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Full 5 life Spider-Man and Songbird, Daredevil 1 wound/3 life left

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 200 seems right. Will be better with more Gladiators/Warbound figures. He may also shine in an army with a bit of range to tie down/screen an opponent and get unblockables without doing damage to his buddies.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Miek is an interesting guy. He was able to do a lot of wounds with Never Stopping, too bad almost half was friendly fire. I found that I didn't attack very often with his normal attack. It seemed like a better idea to attack with someone else and hope to roll unblockables. As I said there is some risk in that as he easily hurts his teammates. It made for some interesting decisions and made we not want to stay adjacent to him even though he was giving and getting a bonus via Warbound. Chemming is a nice power but it didn't have a huge effect in these games. What hurts Miek and his Gladiators is their movement and lack of turn bonding/free movement. The Crime Fighter were able to swarm them pretty fast and take them out. Maybe a playtest with Martian Manhunter or another figure mover(Ms Marvel?) can help get them rolling faster. I think keeping him at 200 and moving to public playtesting should be fine.

[AlexH12]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Miek

Version tested:

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = MIEK

SPECIES = SAKAARAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = GLADIATOR
PERSONALITY = VENGEFUL

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 6

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 6

POINTS = 200

WARBOUND
While Miek is adjacent to at least one friendly Gladiator, add 1 to his Attack and Defense numbers. After Miek defends against an attack from an opponent's figure, you may move one Gladiator figure you control.

CHEMMING
When rolling for initiative, you may add 1 to your roll for each Unique Gladiator Hero you control engaged with an enemy figure.

NEVER STOPPING
At the end of your player turn, Miek must move adjacent to an enemy figure within 3 clear sight spaces that was attacked by a friendly figure this player turn, if possible, then roll an unblockable attack against each figure adjacent to him. Roll each die separately.

SUPER STRENGTH

FLYING

Army Test
Map: Custom Map - Elm Street
Units: 810 pts - Korg, Miek, Meggan, Baron Zemo 170 VS 810 pts - Wrecking Crew, Skrull Infiltrator

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R3T2 Wrecker 1 wound - Never Stopping
R3T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R4T1 Piledriver 1 wound
R4T2 Piledriver 3 wounds(dead)
R4T3 Bulldozer 1 wound
R5T2 Thunderball 2 wounds
R5T3 Thunderball 4 wounds(dead)



Warbound: Helped quite a bit with both Meggan and Korg being Galdiators.

Chemming: Added to initiative in almost every round.

Never Stopping: Did 2 wounds, 1 to Wrecker and 1 to his teammate Korg.

Meggan picks Korg as her target.
R1 - Both teams start moving forward.
R2 - Thunderball drops a tree on Korg, doing a wound. Meggan attack Wrecker but misses from range. Wrecker puts a wound on Korg. Miek moves forward.
R3 - Zemo's team adds 2 to Initiative because of Chemming. Meggan gains Korgs powers and attacks down on Wrecker, doing 1 wound. Miek moves and rolls an unblockable against Wrecker and Korg but misses both. Piledriver attacks Miek, who blocks it. Meggan gains Korgs powers and attacks down on Wrecker doing 3 wounds. Miek puts a wound on Wrecker and Korg via Never Stopping, but misses Piledriver. Meggan attacks down on Wrecker, doing a wound and taking him out. 2rd order marker was on Wrecker. Korg attacks Piledriver doing 2 wounds. Miek rolls and misses Korg and Pilepriver with Never Stopping. Bulldozer attacks Meggan doing a wound. Thunderball attacks Korg from range doing a wound.
R4 - Plus 3 to Initiative roll. Miek attacks down on Piledriver doing 1 wound. Piledriver attacks up on Korg who blocks it. Miek again attacks down on Piledriver doing 3 wounds to remove hi from the game. Thunderball attacks Korg from range doing 2 wounds to take him out. Miek moves adjacent to Meggan and attacks up on Bulldozer doing a wound. Thunderball attacks Miek from range and does a wound.
R5 - Plus 2 to Initiative roll. Thunderball hits Zemo for a wound from range. Miek attacks down on Thunderball rolling 5 skulls but Thunderball somehow rolls 5 shields to block it. Bulldozer hits Miek for 3 wounds, leaving him with 1 life left. Bulldozer attacks Miek who blocks it. Zemo X-Markers Thunderballs turn. Miek attacks down on Thunderball doing 4 wounds, taking out Thunderball.
R6 - Plus 2 to Initiative roll. Bulldozer attacks down on Miek rolling 6 skulls on 6 dice, taking the Gladiator out. Zemo moves closer to Bulldozer and attacks up from range doing 1 wound. Bulldozer attacks Meggan doing 1 wound to her. Bulldozer puts a 3rd wound on Meggan. Meggan puts 1 more wound on Bulldozer. Zemo cancels out Bulldozers last turn.
R7 - Bulldozer kills Meggan. Zemo takes out Bulldozer.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Baron Zemo 1 wound/3 life left

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Army Test
Map: City Park
Units: 1000 pts - Captain America 240, Korg, Miek, Meggan, Zombie VS Army2

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R1T3 Superman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R1T3 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T1 Superman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T1 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T2 Superman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R2T3 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R4T2 Batman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R5T1 Wonder Woman 1 wound - Never Stopping
R5T2 Wonder Woman 3 wounds
R5T3 Wonder Woman 1 wound - Never Stopping



Warbound: Only used while Korg was alive.

Chemming: Helped win initiative in round 2.

Never Stopping: Did 10 wounds, but 4 were to a friendly figure in Korg.

Cap starts with the Amulet, Meggan pick Korg.
R1 - Wonder Woman uses a Marker. Superman attacks Zombie who blocks it. Korg attacks Superman and its blocked. Miek moves forward and misses both Korg and Superman with Never Stopping. Zombie takes 4 wounds from Superman. Meggan attacks Superman from range and its blocked. Miek puts a wound on Superman and Korg.
R2 - Wonder Woman uses a marker. Cap throws his shield at Superman and a tree, both are blocked. Miek puts a wound on Superman and Korg with Never Stopping. Zombie attacks Superman but its blocked, and heals a wound. Miek misses both Korg and Superman with Never Stopping. Superman attacks Zombie and its blocked. Korg attacks Superman and its blocked. Miek does a wound to Superman and Korg with Never Stopping. Superman flattens Zombie with an attack of 7 and Zombie blanks hit roll. Korg hit Superman for 1 wound. Miek hits Korg for 1 wound with Never Stopping. Superman attacks Korg but its a rock wall and takes a wound himself.
R3 - Wonder Woman uses a marker. Cap attacks Superman and Sups blocks it. Miek misses Sups and Korg with Never Stopping. Superman kills Korg. Meggan hits Superman from range and takes him out. Batman moves 3 JLA markers to Wonder Woman and order Markers to Batman. Batman attacks Miek but its blocked.
R4 - Wonder Woman uses a JLA marker. Batman attacks down on Cap from height, Cap takes a wound. Cap attacks Batman who blocks it. Miek puts a wound on Batman with Never Stopping. Batman attacks Cap, who blocks it. Miek misses Batman with Never Stopping. Cap kills Batman. Batman moves Markers to Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman moves.
R5 - Wonder Woman uses a JLA Marker. Wonder Woman attack Cap who blocks it. Cap attacks Wonder Woman doing a wound. Miek puts a wound on Wonder Woman with Never Stopping. Wonder Woman kills Cap. Miek attacks Wonder Woman doing 3 wounds to her. Wonder Woman attacks Miek for 3 wounds. Meggan attacks Wonder Woman from range, she blocks it. Miek puts a wound on Wonder Woman with Never Stopping to end the game.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Meggan Full 4 life, Miek 3 wounds/2 life left.

___________________________________________________________

Army Test
Map: Custom Map - Royal Wakadan Forest
Units: 1000 pts - Captain America 240, Korg, Miek, Meggan, Zombie VS 1000 pts - Luke Cage, Songbird, Daredevil 200, Ronin 180, Spider-Man 250

Spoiler Alert!

Damage Dealt: R3T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R3T3 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping
R3T3 Ronin 1 wound - Never Stopping
R4T2 Korg 1 wound - Never Stopping(dead)
R4T2 Luke Cage 1 wound - Never Stopping(dead)
R4T2 Ronin 1 wound - Never Stopping

Warbound: Helped some when Korg was alive.

Chemming: Add to rolls in a couple of rounds. Helped win initiative in one round.

Never Stopping: Did 6 wounds, unfortunately 3 were to his teammate Korg.

Cap gets Zombies Amulet. Meggan picks Korgs stuff.
R1 - Lots of movement. Luke kills a tree.
R2 - Cap attacks a Tree of Death doing 2 wounds. Zombie does 2 wounds to Luke Cage. Ronin misses Cap. Cage hits Zombie for a wound. Songbird puts a wound on Zombie. Spider-Man puts 3 wounds on Zombie. Daredevil puts 3 wounds on Cap. Cage kills Zombie.
R3 - Cap attacks Daredevil who blocks it. Ronin puts 2 wounds on Korg. Cage puts a wound on Korg. Miek puts a wound on Korg via Never Stopping. Spider-Man webs up Korg and attacks him but its blocked. Korg attacks Ronin, who blocks it. Miek moves adjacent to Korg and Ronin and put wounds on both of them via Never Stopping. He also takes a LEA from Luke Cage. Ronin puts a wound on Korg. Cage puts the 5th wound on Korg.
R4 - Cap puts a wound on Daredevil. Daredevil takes Cap out. Cage attacks Korg who blocks it. Korg attacks Cage and does a wound. Miek puts wounds on Korg, Cage and Ronin, removing Korg and Cage from the game. Spider-Man webs up Miek and does 2 wounds to him. taking him out.
R5 and 6 - The remaining Crime Fighters hunt down and kill Meggan. Megan does take out Ronin.

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Full 5 life Spider-Man and Songbird, Daredevil 1 wound/3 life left

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: 200 seems right. Will be better with more Gladiators/Warbound figures. He may also shine in an army with a bit of range to tie down/screen an opponent and get unblockables without doing damage to his buddies.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Miek is an interesting guy. He was able to do a lot of wounds with Never Stopping, too bad almost half was friendly fire. I found that I didn't attack very often with his normal attack. It seemed like a better idea to attack with someone else and hope to roll unblockables. As I said there is some risk in that as he easily hurts his teammates. It made for some interesting decisions and made we not want to stay adjacent to him even though he was giving and getting a bonus via Warbound. Chemming is a nice power but it didn't have a huge effect in these games. What hurts Miek and his Gladiators is their movement and lack of turn bonding/free movement. The Crime Fighter were able to swarm them pretty fast and take them out. Maybe a playtest with Martian Manhunter or another figure mover(Ms Marvel?) can help get them rolling faster. I think keeping him at 200 and moving to public playtesting should be fine.

Thanks for the tests! I'm glad you got mostly good results out of him, but I can definitely see where movement could be an issue. I might implement some more bonding with Hulk when the time comes
Also, what army did you play against in the second test?

[Ericth74]

@AlexH12
JLA Trinity - Superman Wonder Woman and Batman

I updated my test info, good catch.

[AlexH12]

If we're all good here, I propose we move to Public Playtesting.

[IAmBatman]

yea