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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
Sunnywood looks like a fun map. Looks like a face sticking out its tongue in the second picture.
Conflict Chernobyl is my favorite. Never played with Glyphs, but would be interesting. I use all parts of the map often enough. That bushy-height area off to the left is a good spot to camp a commander needing LOS and/or ranged attackers, with the water giving a little distance between that figure and those in the center. Had Echo with Human Torch's range and her normal 6 Move ring-around-the-rosey with the water against a full life Thing for the win in a Miek test. I feel like all maps are pretty repetitive to an extent, but this one feels less repetitive than Dark Dimension, and more exciting than Mogo, as examples. Destructible Objects really change how this map plays. A lot of fun options open up when you have all these non-opponent "figures" all over the battlefield to interact with. Can't remember the last C3G game I played without them. |
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map?
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So.. larger footprint (not smaller) is preferable? And no glyphs? Are glyphs not used at all, or does C3G have its own set? Start zone separation is pretty well understood on the Classic side. Is there consensus on the ideal separation for C3G? I'll get out of the way, but I'm very interested to see where this converation goes. |
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As for map size. Being small isn't always an issue. I do a lot of testing on Conflict Chernobyl, but mostly because the matches are short and sweet, and play is predictable on it. But I also find it boring, as the games seems to play out the same way. Control the center height or snipe from the side height. |
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
I think with Sunnywood and Underwood in particular, there's a lot of potential for turn one and two star zone bombing.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
Would love to see this conversation pick back up.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
Fwiw, I'm definitely not a map expert. It does seem Conflict Chernobyl is pretty close between start zones too. I think it's a *little* more blocked off in terms of ability to block LOS from attackers, but no great shakes in terms of differences.
I'd guess you probably have more map authority than just about anyone in these parts, so definitely don't feel like you have to hide in the background! We'd definitely benefit from hearing your thoughts. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
Yeah I would say we don't have any real map experts here. If you look at our limited number of released maps vs our vast number of released(and on deck) figure designs.
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
I think part of what may slow startzone bombing on Conflict Chernobyl is that the center section with jungle plants feels like the safest place on the map to be, so a lot of players may hesitate to push past that or feel like it's a risky endeavor.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
What's interesting for me is I feel completely differently about playtesting versus competitive gameplay.
In playtesting, I want that consistent feel of the map with fewer variables that might affect the costing of a unit. In competitive gameplay, I like having more tactical outlets that can give me a chance to even the playing field if the army match ups aren't in my favor. I feel like rather than adding to "randomness" these additions reward the more tactical player. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
Never really thought about it but I agree with that.
Probably why most of my testing has been on like three maps. Cannot even remember my original before Island Plane Crash. City Park is my current go to. Really need to try Elm Street. Never played Chernobyl except maybe at the Con. |
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What Makes A Good Map?
I'm back once again, with a somewhat off-topic post. Apologies. It kind of relates, at least. Right?
What kinds of maps do you like? Come vote in the ScapeCon II Map Contest! I know this is C3G, but that doesn't mean you can't pick your favorites. There are three brackets, and you can vote for as many (or as few) maps as you want. Thanks for taking a look. Bracket 1 Bracket 2 Bracket 3 |
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Re: What Makes A Good (Competitive) C3G Map? (Con. Chernobyl
I voted
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