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Re: Justice League Dark Brainstorming
Both
@IAmBatman
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@laughing matter
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Re: Justice League Dark Brainstorming
I like the ideas for Shade, and I always felt like my design was still a little half-baked, but I like Mr Nobody's version quite a bit. I think something like this would be very good with the JLD synergy we're thinking of here.
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Edit: I also made the resurrection power remove all markers form the card because I think that if it only took away OM's he'd still have all the wounds on his card and just immediately die again, lol! life's short, why not make an impact on the world? make some peoples lives better, have a few good laughs, and then when it's all over go out with BANG! |
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I think he needs at least some range. He can shoot energy and makes that one big fist construct. Range 3-4 is perfect imo. I want to keep the power name as Madness Vest, to leave the option open for the Ditko version, who has a different M Vest. Is there a reason why standing next to an Insane ally would boost his attack against non-Insane enemies? I don't recall anything like that ever happening, but I could be wrong there. I like adding Unstable, I almost did it myself. Maybe it would be good to also add Troubled? Crazy Jane, Mento, etc are the kinds of people Shade would end up fighting/helping, and it would be kind of cool to have some cross-pollination with the Vertigo properties. I also like the change to just an attack boost instead of attack+defense, that makes sense I think, although I think maybe a +2 to attack could be justified, instead of just +1. I don't like changing it to 2 blanks, honestly. Even rolling 6 attack dice (Base+2) he's only going to be rolling an average of 1 blank per roll. I'd like him to have at least a decent chance of using his big power, especially if you're throwing OMs on him. With this draft I feel like he'd always need Zatanna II, which isn't really my goal. I'm aiming for a fun solo unit that can play well on his own, but meshes with the JLD too. I'm not a huge fan of the Madness Stream power either forcing teleportation or a wound. In the very early issues of the comic he basically gets tugged along by the Stream. But even by the end of the American Scream arc he has much better control of it, and doesn't have to go when it calls him. Past that, the whole concept of the Stream is played up much less as the series becomes more sedentary in Hotel Shade. I also don't really remember the Madness Stream ever really hurting anybody, so I don't know if it should be able to inflict wounds. Also, what is X defined as? Good call on the Wound Marker thing in Metan Possession, I just wrote the wrong thing. Honestly I think there needs to be a choice between Metan Possession and Madness Stream. I went with Metan Possession because I feel like it represents the whole Milligan run, whereas I think the Madness Stream is more of an early issues thing. So with all that in mind, here's my thoughts. I'm not totally against some sort of Madness Stream power, but I also don't think it's absolutely essential. Quote:
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