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Old June 18th, 2020, 03:08 PM
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll

In line with my suggested change to the Orc version of cave dweller, what if we had a power that upped the ante; change the move bonus to 2 instead of 1 (with a base move of 4) and the attack bonus to 2 (with a base attack of 4). It is actually a negative power most of the time, but positive powers are easier to word and keep track of. It would make him cheaper and emphasize the impact of daylight compared to the orcs.

We could call it Cave Dweller 2 and call the other power Cave Dweller 1. @Chris Perkins @Shiftrex


Also looks like I need to update the OP and thread title. This is part of Fellowship A

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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll

Ooh, I like that.
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Old June 18th, 2020, 03:29 PM
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll

I'm on board with making this figure (and possibly moria orcs / goblins as well) heavily map dependent (i.e. depended on shadow) - in fact I like it quite a lot.

When thinking about which figures in HoME we want at the B+ and higher power levels for double-blind competitive tourneys, it's important to not have too many squads crack those rankings and I think this is a good way to make these figures quite powerful in the right scenario but still have no effect on the meta of Classic Scape w/ HoME.
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll

Totally agree, if the majority of our stuff is B ranked, itll be attractive as fun additions to the game. Also, it's probably easier to gain acceptance for an event if our stuff is lower powered on average, though that isnt necessarily our goal.
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

What exactly does an editing checklist involve? Don't know that terminology.

I think the card is quite good as-is. I might want to up the point total a bit (seems like being more expensive than the ice troll would be good, even though ice troll gets bonding with arrows - maybe 90 or 95 points?). Otherwise I'm happy with the card though
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

90 points is fine with me. I'll make that change later

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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

On board for 90 here as well. Can always drop down if need be.
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

Here is C3V's editing checklist. We need to answer each question. Generally someone posts the list with their own answers in bold, and any questions that are more obvious or might require a change to the card are highlighted in bold red.

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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

So who goes through it then? Lol
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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

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Updated for OP.

(CARD IMAGE)

NAME = MORIA CAVE TROLL
GENERAL = UTGAR
SPECIES = TROLL
UNIQUENESS = UNCOMMON HERO
CLASS = BRUTE
PERSONALITY = FEROCIOUS
SIZE/HEIGHT = LARGE/7?

LIFE = 6
MOVE = 4
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 2
POINTS = 85


CAVE DWELLER 2
If this Moria Cave Troll moves over at least three contiguous dungeon or shadow spaces, you may add an additional 1 space to his move. When attacking an adjacent figure that is on a dungeon or shadow space, this Moria Cave Troll rolls 2 additional attack dice.

TOUGH
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack, this Moria Cave Troll always adds 1 automatic shield to whatever is rolled.



Character Bio: (taken from Tolkien Gateway, I think we should do something like this for Bios instead of writing original stuff)

". . . For the moment they are hanging back, but there is something else there. A great cave-troll, I think, or more than one. There is no hope of escape that way."

― Gandalf, The Bridge of Khazad-dûm

A race of monstrous creatures found in caverns and dark places.The Cave-trolls are known from an encounter with the Fellowship of the Ring as they passed through Moria, but were evidently found elsewhere in Middle-earth, too. These trolls, along with Orcs and perhaps other creatures, were originally sent to inhabit Moria by Sauron some five hundred years before the War of the Ring.

The cave-trolls of Moria were of huge size with a skin of dark green scales, and flat, toeless feet. The fact that Gandalf was able to recognise the creature he encountered in Moria specifically as a cave-troll strongly suggests that this appearance was shared by others of the kind.


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Re: The Workbook of Cave Troll - Design (Fellowship A)

One person can volunteer to do it all or we can just answer questions as we have time until they're all answered

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