Heroscapers
Go Back   Heroscapers > Official Valhalla HeroScape > Competitive Armies Discussion
Competitive Armies Discussion Discuss, critique, and build ideas for tournament-caliber armies.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #13  
Old October 28th, 2015, 12:26 PM
kolakoski's Avatar
kolakoski kolakoski is offline
worthless thread clother plotting in his secret island lair
 
Join Date: July 15, 2008
Location: USA - NY - NYC
Posts: 5,901
Images: 3866
Blog Entries: 336
kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Well met!

Roman/Warlord/Soldier armies have been among my faves since I began playing. The 10th Reg. for range, and the Romans for the great variety of Warlords available - including the latest, the Azurite Warlord.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old October 28th, 2015, 12:58 PM
The Silver King The Silver King is offline
 
Join Date: September 26, 2015
Location: USA - CA - Los Angeles
Posts: 146
The Silver King is surprisingly tart
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

I haven't played competitively yet, and me and my younger brother/niece whom I most often play with usually play draft mode, but the times we have done pre-made armies, I like to use a hybrid Viper army. 4 squads of Venocs, 1 Armoc, good ole Mittens, the Zettian Guards, and Syvarris.

I usually start by positioning Syvarris and the guards on some high ground, to be my last resort team. Moving them first also usually brings my enemy closer to me in the mean time. Then I send out wave after wave of Venocs as shock troopers, usually getting at least 3 frenzy rolls per game. After my enemy's army has been softened up, I send the Armocs and Mittens to beat them down some more. Depending on the outcome I either send Syvarris to finish the job, or if the D20 has been bad to me, I separate him and the Guards to different high grounds so they don't end up dying altogether to some group-killing special attacks and fight to the last man.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old October 28th, 2015, 05:43 PM
nate the dawg's Avatar
nate the dawg nate the dawg is offline
 
Join Date: March 3, 2010
Location: USA - TX - Wichita Falls
Posts: 1,536
nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski View Post
Well met!

Roman/Warlord/Soldier armies have been among my faves since I began playing. The 10th Reg. for range, and the Romans for the great variety of Warlords available - including the latest, the Azurite Warlord.
I'm with kolakoski. I love lots of army builds for competitive play, but Marcus-led Legionnaires with some 10th Regiment and another warlord is hands-down my favorite to play with.

Honorable mentions go to Viper swarms, Zombie hordes, and the occasional Cyprien + Phantom Knights with a ranged special attacker.

WORST. PALADIN. EVER.

Overall Tourney Record: ....I don't even remember anymore!
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old October 30th, 2015, 03:26 PM
Foudzing's Avatar
Foudzing Foudzing is offline
Online HS Seasons 3 and 7 Champion
 
Join Date: June 17, 2010
Location: France - Paris
Posts: 1,483
Images: 1
Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

When it comes to competitive I like to play squads who involves A LOT of decisions to take per turn. My favorites and the ones I got the most success with are the Trons. Certainly not the funniest squads (especially to play aginst lol) but they involve a lot of decisions to take and they are strong, it's a combo which usually pays off when it comes to wins games.
Other common squads I had success with are Greenscales, Cathars Spearmen and Deathreavers.

I also absolutely love Raelin, it's a hero that is only very strong if very well played.
Some games play Raelin well is easy, but some games it's requires a lot of skill and I love Raelin in those games, either she's in my side or against me.
I also love Krav Maga for the same reason, although it's to a lesser extent with them. They were some games where I destroyed an incredile (~350) amount of point with the Kravs only because I played the whole game in order to get that incredible lategame with the Kravs. They can also be played early game or mid game, it's an incredibly versatile squad.

But I overall I am comfortable using any army as long as it's well constructed and don't pair up against a very bad machup. When we play Bring 2 (each player brings 2 premade armies, then choose what to play by picing into the pool of 4 armies) I have a way better winrate using my opponent's armies than mine.

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old October 30th, 2015, 03:41 PM
Foudzing's Avatar
Foudzing Foudzing is offline
Online HS Seasons 3 and 7 Champion
 
Join Date: June 17, 2010
Location: France - Paris
Posts: 1,483
Images: 1
Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski View Post
Well met!

Roman/Warlord/Soldier armies have been among my faves since I began playing. The 10th Reg. for range, and the Romans for the great variety of Warlords available - including the latest, the Azurite Warlord.
I played a lot of those armies and came to the conclusion that playing both Romans and 10th Reg in the same army is not good. The added versatility is not worth the added the OM trickiness at all.
Basically having a screen for the 10th Reg kinda waste one of their power, they're strong enough to not need a screen. You better play something which is good against range with 10th reg, or play them with Raelin to protect them more against range. Romans help them more against melee which is an overkill.
About Marcus, the 6-move is really great because it helps them a lot against range, but as the +1 attack aura is not usable without Romans (on most maps), and this aura is also almost useless against range, paying 100 points just for the +1 move is very expensive.

And (kinda unfortunately) when you look for the strongest army, having only one common squad will be the right choice 95% of the time.

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old October 30th, 2015, 04:49 PM
kolakoski's Avatar
kolakoski kolakoski is offline
worthless thread clother plotting in his secret island lair
 
Join Date: July 15, 2008
Location: USA - NY - NYC
Posts: 5,901
Images: 3866
Blog Entries: 336
kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun kolakoski is a penguin with a machine gun
Re: Favourite Competitive army's


Well met!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Foudzing View Post

I played a lot of those armies and came to the conclusion that playing both Romans and 10th Reg in the same army is not good. The added versatility is not worth the added the OM trickiness at all.

In a pure Power game, agreed. With larger point values, and/or "casual" play, you can afford 2-3 squads of 10th and a few interesting Warlords with 2-3 squads of Romans, and/or Raelin.

Basically having a screen for the 10th Reg kinda waste one of their power, they're strong enough to not need a screen. You better play something which is good against range with 10th reg, or play them with Raelin to protect them more against range. Romans help them more against melee which is an overkill.

It depends. They can use a screen versus screens. Brutes/Goblins can be a problem. As can Deathreavers.

About Marcus, the 6-move is really great because it helps them a lot against range, but as the +1 attack aura is not usable without Romans (on most maps), and this aura is also almost useless against range, paying 100 points just for the +1 move is very expensive.

Marcus also gives +1 to Attack to adjacent 10th (Soldiers), so setting up a pod of 10th with him makes sense.

And (kinda unfortunately) when you look for the strongest army, having only one common squad will be the right choice 95% of the time.

But not the most fun.
Playing mostly 10th + Marcus, or mostly Romans + Marcus + various Warlords, works for me.


Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old October 31st, 2015, 08:13 AM
Foudzing's Avatar
Foudzing Foudzing is offline
Online HS Seasons 3 and 7 Champion
 
Join Date: June 17, 2010
Location: France - Paris
Posts: 1,483
Images: 1
Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla Foudzing is inducted into the Halls of Valhalla
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foudzing View Post

Basically having a screen for the 10th Reg kinda waste one of their power, they're strong enough to not need a screen. You better play something which is good against range with 10th reg, or play them with Raelin to protect them more against range. Romans help them more against melee which is an overkill.

It depends. They can use a screen versus screens. Brutes/Goblins can be a problem. As can Deathreavers.
I would prefer 100% 10th reg against Brutes, Goblins or Deathreavers. There is not a huge difference between full 10th reg or mix in this machup tho.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foudzing View Post

About Marcus, the 6-move is really great because it helps them a lot against range, but as the +1 attack aura is not usable without Romans (on most maps), and this aura is also almost useless against range, paying 100 points just for the +1 move is very expensive.

Marcus also gives +1 to Attack to adjacent 10th (Soldiers), so setting up a pod of 10th with him makes sense.
Setting up a pod will be impossible on most maps except if you're playing against full melee.

Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old October 31st, 2015, 10:30 AM
NecroBlade's Avatar
NecroBlade NecroBlade is offline
"our design team knows what it's doing"
 
Join Date: November 22, 2006
Location: KY - Louisville
Posts: 21,431
Images: 186
Blog Entries: 21
NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth NecroBlade is a man of the cloth
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Anything and everything. I tend to steer away from the really top level stuff (Q9, Stingers, Raelin, 4th) more often than not because I already know those units are good. I want to see how I can do with other units. You will very rarely see me play the same thing twice, too. There is a ton of variety to Heroscape, especially with VC in the mix.

That said, my favorite types of armies to build and play are probably the solid melee bonding types. Romans + Warlords, Death Chasers, Dreadguls, Knights + Champions; mostly melee, but usually with a ranged support piece.


Arena of the Valkyire - Help create Heroscape's next Master Set!
Trade List
C3V Brainstorm
never not funny
Pepperony - 14/09/13
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old October 31st, 2015, 10:37 AM
mtl1998 mtl1998 is offline
 
Join Date: June 13, 2013
Location: USA-IN-Marion
Posts: 587
mtl1998 rolls all skulls baby! mtl1998 rolls all skulls baby! mtl1998 rolls all skulls baby! mtl1998 rolls all skulls baby! mtl1998 rolls all skulls baby!
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Quote:
Originally Posted by NecroBlade View Post
Anything and everything. I tend to steer away from the really top level stuff (Q9, Stingers, Raelin, 4th) more often than not because I already know those units are good. I want to see how I can do with other units. You will very rarely see me play the same thing twice, too. There is a ton of variety to Heroscape, especially with VC in the mix.

That said, my favorite types of armies to build and play are probably the solid melee bonding types. Romans + Warlords, Death Chasers, Dreadguls, Knights + Champions; mostly melee, but usually with a ranged support piece.
I'm in 100% agreement with you. Melee bonding squads are my favorite. My favorite armies tend to lack range, so sometimes I tweak them to make them more competitive. (I like the Krav a lot.)

Capuans are another favorite.

If you're not rolling for Stinger Drain, you're not living.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old October 31st, 2015, 02:38 PM
nate the dawg's Avatar
nate the dawg nate the dawg is offline
 
Join Date: March 3, 2010
Location: USA - TX - Wichita Falls
Posts: 1,536
nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness nate the dawg wears ripped pants of awesomeness
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foudzing View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foudzing View Post

Basically having a screen for the 10th Reg kinda waste one of their power, they're strong enough to not need a screen. You better play something which is good against range with 10th reg, or play them with Raelin to protect them more against range. Romans help them more against melee which is an overkill.

It depends. They can use a screen versus screens. Brutes/Goblins can be a problem. As can Deathreavers.
I would prefer 100% 10th reg against Brutes, Goblins or Deathreavers. There is not a huge difference between full 10th reg or mix in this machup tho.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foudzing View Post

About Marcus, the 6-move is really great because it helps them a lot against range, but as the +1 attack aura is not usable without Romans (on most maps), and this aura is also almost useless against range, paying 100 points just for the +1 move is very expensive.

Marcus also gives +1 to Attack to adjacent 10th (Soldiers), so setting up a pod of 10th with him makes sense.
Setting up a pod will be impossible on most maps except if you're playing against full melee.
That's what the free bonding turn granted by the Romans is for. You send your Legionnaires forward with another warlord, but Marcus is only bonded with in order to get him in the middle of a bunch of redcoats.

WORST. PALADIN. EVER.

Overall Tourney Record: ....I don't even remember anymore!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old November 3rd, 2015, 01:08 AM
Scaperedude's Avatar
Scaperedude Scaperedude is offline
 
Join Date: November 19, 2014
Location: USA - UT - Provo
Posts: 571
Scaperedude rolls all skulls baby! Scaperedude rolls all skulls baby! Scaperedude rolls all skulls baby! Scaperedude rolls all skulls baby!
Re: Favourite Competitive army's

Lately I've actually been having quite a bit of success and fun with one 440 point army which consists of-

Raelin(RotV) (80)
Seige (120)
Warforged Soldiers(x3) (240)
(440 Points)

I'm looking for a good 60 point unit to help back up this melee army, so if you have a suggestion I would love to hear I'm considering Zetacron, but I'm not sure.

H E R O S C A P E
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old November 3rd, 2015, 01:17 AM
Dysole's Avatar
Dysole Dysole is offline
PuppetMaster & #2 Ranked CoNner
 
Join Date: March 17, 2008
Location: Oregon Eugeneish area
Posts: 17,602
Images: 262
Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer Dysole is a wielder of the Ban Hammer
Options

With VC I recommend Elaria the Pale. Without it, I'd probably go Tarns + Isamu or Theracus + Marcu.

~Dysole, finding the Tarns really underrated
Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Heroscapers > Official Valhalla HeroScape > Competitive Armies Discussion


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Competitive Army Guidance: Need Help Making An Army? Heroscaper62 Competitive Armies Discussion 69 July 9th, 2011 03:06 PM
Most Competitive Army I Hate Atlaga Competitive Armies Discussion 17 May 2nd, 2011 03:22 PM
Post your favourite army you have used? Tivendord Competitive Armies Discussion 28 August 31st, 2009 10:55 PM
Me vs. a competitive army... DBC Competitive Armies Discussion 3 August 5th, 2008 09:53 PM
hi its me again Vydar_191 and what is your favourite army Vydar_191 HeroScape General Discussion 8 December 31st, 2007 05:41 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:41 PM.

Heroscape background footer

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.