Public Design Workshop

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by Ericth74

For the Hyperactivity power, what about something simple like everytime any order marker is revealed he may move one space. Similar to Jason, you could add some caveats like, doesn't take leaving engagements or can't end his turn engaged.

Yeah that’s the direction we were discussing basically.

[Ronin]

If we're gonna do a hyperactivity out-of-turn movement type power on Impulse (which I really like!), I do think it'll need to somehow encourage him to be in different places from one turn to the next. Otherwise, he's probably apt to run at whoever he most wants to tie up and just use his hyperactivity to stay close to em.

[LordVenoc]

Maybe something like:

TRUST YOUR IMPULSE
Whenever an opponent reveals an order marker on a card they control, you may immediately move Impulse 3 spaces. When Impulse is attacked, if he did not move at least one space this turn, he rolls 3 fewer defense die.

It doesn't necessarily fix the using him to tie someone down as he could just use it to kind of circle his opponent, but it does force the movement a bit more.

Or even literally tie it to his defense with something like:

TRUST YOUR IMPULSE
Whenever an opponent reveals an order marker on a card they control, you may immediately move Impulse 3 spaces. When Impulse is attacked, add 1 for each space moved away from his starting space this turn.

Less elegant, but also less punitive.

[MrNobody]

We could tie his movement into the showboating speed stuff you mentioned earlier;

TRUST YOUR IMPULSE
Whenever an opponent reveals an order marker on a card they control, you may immediately move Impulse 3 spaces. If Impulse ends this movement engaged with a figure he was not engaged with at the start of the turn, that figure must subtract 1 from its attack for the remainder of that player's turn.

So he can see somebody is about to act then gets a chance to intercept them, but he can't keep targeting the same guy over and over.

[LordVenoc]

I like that, but against an army with just a few big pointers, he will likely opt to just stay put if there's no one close by to switch engagement to. I do really like that version though, as it makes him a fun support figure, even outside Titans.

I like the engagement phrasing you have there, so you could do something like:

TRUST YOUR IMPULSE
Whenever an opponent reveals an order marker on a card they control, you may immediately move Impulse 3 spaces. If Impulse ends this movement engaged with a figure he was engaged with at the start of the turn, he rolls X fewer defense die when attacked this turn.

I think whether we take the encouragement the direction of supportive power (like you put) or tied to his own status (like the option I had) will probably depend on how we want him to play with Titans, especially Titan defensive pods.

[MrNobody]

My big thought is that I'd want to avoid cheese where he can get a bonus for moving by just pacing the same 2 spaces over and over. He should be changing location, not just moving. So something more like your 2nd option or mine.

My problem with this newest suggestion is that I think it would lead to him only really wanting to move when he's engaged. If my Impulse is unengaged and on height, why do I want to move him into an engagement with an opponent's figure before that opponent takes a turn? Tie-down I guess, but I still feel like it'll lead to him standing around a lot of the time.

What about a straight auto-wounder?

TRUST YOUR IMPULSE
After an opponent reveals a numbered Order Marker on an Army Card that opponent controls, you may immediately move Impulse up to 3 spaces. If Impulse ends this move engaged with one or more enemy figures that he was not engaged with at the beginning of this move, you may immediately choose one figure that Impulse is engaged with and roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 16 or higher, the chosen figure receives 1 wound.

I also don't see a problem with the defense booster idea if that's what you want to go for.

[IAmBatman]

If it's auto wounding, make it on your own turn. Honestly, I prefer it on your own turn if possible, because it's a bit close to turn interruption if you're doing it on your opponent's Order Marker.

[LordVenoc]

Making it on your turns feels off with the idea of reducing his move and this power kind of "splitting the difference" so to speak. I personally dislike the auto-wound power. Impulse has such a large move and there are multiple movement supporting powers in the Titans that it would feel way to easy to set up. I like the general direction of a support piece, but I think that level of aggressive doesn't necessarily fit the child speedster dynamic for me.

[IAmBatman]

I might go "before an opponent reveals an Order Marker" for the trigger just to stop from direct turn interruption.

I'm not sure the wording was quite there but in terms of the metagame I think I most favor a version where he gets a defensive boost for extra moving around away from his initial spot. That version also lets you give him a defense of like 5 or so and drop Speed Dodge for something else.

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

I might go "before an opponent reveals an Order Marker" for the trigger just to stop from direct turn interruption.

I'm not sure the wording was quite there but in terms of the metagame I think I most favor a version where he gets a defensive boost for extra moving around away from his initial spot. That version also lets you give him a defense of like 5 or so and drop Speed Dodge for something else.

The “after an opponent reveals an OM” language I’m pretty sure is copied from the Walkers and stuff like that.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

The “after an opponent reveals an OM” language I’m pretty sure is copied from the Walkers and stuff like that.

Oye, why am I always responsible for making the worst changes and establishing the messiest precedents? Somebody keep me away from the designs!!

OK, I guess it didn't break anything, though. Still, if it's on an opponent's Order Marker, I think you want to keep the effect pretty light if you can.

[LordVenoc]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I pulled the language I used from Jason and Michael Myers. I think I preferred in terms of versions:

Defense Boost>Attack Reduce>Defense Lost>Auto Wound

But that's obviously just one opinion. Defense boost for moving from original I just wasn't sure how to best write it in fitting with house style.

Also, here was what I had for Freddy Freeman. Still working on something for Sivana. He's kinda hard to nail down, I think.

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = CAPTAIN MARVEL
SECRET IDENTITY = FREDDY FREEMAN
SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHAMPION
PERSONALITY = BRASH

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS =

LIEUTENANT MARVEL
If there is not another Human Captain Marvel in your army, for the remainder of the game if you control at least one:
Interloper, you may treat this figure’s class as Interloper instead of what is listed.
Titan, you may treat this figure’s class as Titan instead of what is listed.

SOLOMON AND MERCURY
Before rolling defense dice for Captain Marvel, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 13 or higher, roll 2 additional defense dice. After rolling, you may immediately move Captain Marvel 3 spaces. Captain Marvel does not take leaving engagement attacks when moving with Solomon and Mercury.

APOLLO
After taking a turn with Captain Marvel, if there is at least one unrevealed order marker on this card you may remove one wound marker from this card.

SHARED POWER OF SHAZAM!
After revealing an Order Marker on this card or any Human Captain Marvel card you control, if you control more than one Human Captain Marvel, you must roll the 20-sided die before taking your turn. If you roll 6 or lower, you cannot use any powers on any Human Captain Marvel Army Card you control for the remainder of your turn. If you roll 7 or higher, you may take a turn with any Human Captain Marvel you control.


SUPER STRENGTH
FLYING

Potential Update to Power of Shazam:
Immediately after revealing an Order Marker on the card of any figure you control that is a Human Captain Marvel or that has this special power, before taking a turn, you must roll the 20-sided die once for all cards you control with this special power. If you roll 6 or lower, that figure cannot use any special powers this turn. If you roll 7 or higher, you may instead take a turn with any figure you control that is a Human Captain Marvel or that has this special power.