The Book of Hank Pym

[Ronin]

He already did the checklists.

yea

[MrNobody]

This passes, thanks y'all.

Originally Posted by johnny139

"You may draft this figure into the same army with any other Hank Pym figures that are Scientists that do not share a size." seems equally clear and is a little trimmer.

Coming from a player perspective, I think I'd be confused by that. The use of "additional" in the lengthier wording helps a lot IMO. But I'm also not hugely opinionated, can always just FAQ it either way.

[japes]

Originally Posted by mrnobody

this passes, thanks y'all.

coming from a player perspective, i think i'd be confused by that. The use of "additional" in the lengthier wording helps a lot imo. but i'm also not hugely opinionated, can always just faq it either way.

liar!!!!!

:d

[MrNobody]

Originally Posted by japes

liar!!!!!

:d

I used the Pym Particles on my opinions. I’m now tinily opinionated!

[IAmBatman]

Minor typo. Excited for this one!

Originally Posted by MrNobody

NAME = HANK PYM
SECRET IDENTY = N/A

SPECIES = MUTATE
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = SCIENTIST
PERSONALITY = INSECURE

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 2
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = 90

PYM PARTICLES
You may draft this figure into the same army with any other Hank Pym figures that are Scientists. None of the additional Hank Pym figures may share a size. While this Hank Pym has an Avengers Marker on his Army Card, these Hank Pym figures are also considered to have an Avengers Marker on their cards. Start the game with this figure on the battlefield. Only one of your Hank Pym figures can be on the battlefield at a time. If another Hank Pym you control would be destroyed, instead place two Wound Markers on this card and immediately replace the Hank Pym you control with another Hank Pym in your army, if possible. If this Hank Pym is destroyed, all Hank Pym figures in your army are destroyed.

SIZE CHANGE
Instead of taking a turn with a Hank Pym you control, you may switch it with another Hank Pym figure in your army and take a turn with the other Hank Pym. Switched figures will not take any leaving engagement attacks. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may take a turn with whichever Hank Pym you control.

ROBOTICS ENGINEERING
At the end of a round, you may choose an Android or Cyborg Hero adjacent to this Hank Pym. Remove or place 1 Wound Marker on the chosen figure’s card.

[MrNobody]

Updated, thanks!

[tcglkn]

Wording still fits but at a 6.2 so trimming would be nice.

[Ronin]

You could shorten

While this Hank Pym has an Avengers Marker on his Army Card, these Hank Pym figures are also considered to have an Avengers Marker on their cards.

Down to

While there is an Avenger Marker on this card, these Hank Pym figures are also considered to have an Avenger Marker on their cards.

(Which I'm pointing out mainly because we have Avenger Markers and not Avengers Markers)

Have we considered replacing all the instances of "Hank Pym figures" with "Hank Pyms"? Still reads clearly enough to me, and I'm not anticipating any Hank Pym spells or anything.

[MrNobody]

Thanks Ronin! Definitely shaves a few words off.

PYM PARTICLES
You may draft this figure into the same army with any other Hank Pyms that are Scientists. None of the additional Hank Pyms may share a size. While there is an Avenger Marker on this card, these Hank Pyms are also considered to have an Avenger Marker on their cards. Start the game with this figure on the battlefield. Only one of your Hank Pyms can be on the battlefield at a time. If another Hank Pym you control would be destroyed, instead place two Wound Markers on this card and immediately replace the Hank Pym you control with another Hank Pym in your army, if possible. If this Hank Pym is destroyed, all Hank Pyms in your army are destroyed.

SIZE CHANGE
Instead of taking a turn with a Hank Pym you control, you may switch it with another Hank Pym in your army and take a turn with the other Hank Pym. Switched figures will not take any leaving engagement attacks. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, you may take a turn with whichever Hank Pym you control.

ROBOTICS ENGINEERING
At the end of a round, you may choose an Android or Cyborg Hero adjacent to this Hank Pym. Remove or place 1 Wound Marker on the chosen figure’s card.

[MrNobody]

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Hank Pym

Army Test 1
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (970): Hank Pym (90), 11th Doctor (160), Vision (285), Raza Longknife (195), Nebula (240)
Team 2 (970): Captain America (240), Hawkeye III (220), Deadpool (285), Hawkgirl (225)

Pre-game thoughts: Trying him out just on his own first, to make sure his best build isn’t just hanging out with robots.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Deadpool inflicts 3 wounds on the Doctor
-Vision inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Hawkeye inflicts a wound on the Doctor

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Wibbly-Wobbly, Timey-Wimey
-Hawkgirl takes out the Doctor, sending the Sonic Screwdriver flying
-Hawkeye inflicts a wound on Raza
-Vision picks up the Sonic Screwdriver
-Vision inflicts 3 wounds on Deadpool over 2 attacks
-Raza inflicts 3 wounds on Hawkgirl

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Raza takes out Hawkgirl
-Cap inflicts 3 wounds on Vision, sending the Sonic Screwdriver flying
-Vision inflicts a wound on Cap
-T2 had OM2 on Hawkgirl, so they lose a turn
-Vision takes out Deadpool
-T2 had OM3 on Deadpool, so they lose a turn
-Raza heals a wound

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Cap takes out Vision
-Cap takes out Raza with 2 attacks
-T1 had OM2 on Vision, so they lose a turn

Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Cap inflicts 4 wounds on Nebula
-Nebula inflicts 3 wounds on Cap with attacks and Vengeful Strikes
-Nebula heals a wound and Hank heals another for her

Round 6: T2 wins initiative
-Cap inflicts 2 wounds on Hank
-Nebula takes out Cap
-T2 had OM2 on Cap, so they lose a turn
-Hawkeye takes out Hank
-Nebula inflicts a wound on Hawkeye
-Nebula heals a wound

Round 7: T2 wins initiative
-Hawkeye inflicts 2 wounds on Nebula
-Nebula inflicts 2 wounds on Hawkeye with a lucky Vengeful Strike
-Hawkeye takes out Nebula


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 0 wounds inflicted
Robotics Engineering: 1 wounds healed (1 from Nebula)

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Hawkeye (3/4 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: Not worried about this being the optimal build. It’s just too much of a hassle to get your bots to Hank while he’s sitting in the SZ, and leaving it makes him much more vulnerable. You could maybe do a pod build with something like Jocasta and John Stewart, but even then I feel like Hank is probably the weak link there. Good to know!

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Army Test 2
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (790): Hank Pym (90), Ant-Man (Pym) (30), Giant-Man (180), Fire Ant Swarm x4 (40), Iron Man (Avengers) (270), Jocasta (180)
Team 2 (790): Patriot (140), Hawkeye (Kate) (140), Stature (160), Speed (160), Vision (Jonas)

Pre-game thoughts: Some potentially fun interactions here, with Vision as an Android and Stature as a Huge figure.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Tony inflicts a wound on Stature
-Hank switches to Ant-Man form

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-Kate inflicts a wound on Jocasta
-Tony inflicts 2 wounds on Patriot
-Hawkeye inflicts a wound on Tony
-Stature inflicts a wound on Tony
-Tony takes out Kate
-Jocasta inflicts a wound on Patriot

Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Ants advance
-Tony inflicts a wound on Patriot
-Jocasta absorbs 3 wounds meant for Tony, inflicting a wound on Stature
-Stature takes out Jocasta
-T1 had OM3 on Jocasta, so they lose a turn
-Patriot inflicts a wound on Tony

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Ants advance
-Tony takes out Patriot
-Hank switches to Giant Man
-Giant-Man inflicts a wound on Vision
-Vision uses Solar Beams to inflict a wound on Giant-Man
-Giant-Man inflicts 2 wounds on Vision
-Stature takes out Tony
-Giant-Man takes out Vision
-Stature takes out an Ant Swarm

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Stature inflicts 2 wounds on Giant-Man
-Hank switches to Ant-Man
-Stature takes out an Ant Swarm
-Hank switches to Giant-Man
-Giant-Man inflicts 2 wounds on Speed

Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Hank switches to Ant-Man
-Stature takes out 2 Ant Swarms
-Hank switches to Giant-Man
-Giant-Man lands on the Glyph of Wannok
-Giant-Man uses the Wannok to inflict a wound on Speed

Round 6: T1 wins initiative
-Giant-Man inflicts a wound on Stature
-Giant-Man takes out Stature
-Giant-Man takes out Speed


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 0 wounds inflicted
Pym Particles: 0 figures prevented from destruction
Robotics Engineering: 0 wounds healed

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Hank Pym (0/4 wounds), Ant-Man, Giant-Man (3/4 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: Some solid defense rolls at the end helped Hank pull out the win, but I feel like this was a pretty close game.

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Army Test 3
Map: Island Plane Crash (Glyph of Wannok)
Units: Team 1 (1,080): Hank Pym (100), Yellowjacket I, Yellowjacket II (190), Captain America (240), Hulk II (430)
Team 2 (1,080): Fantastic Four (1,000), Mass Master (80)

Pre-game thoughts: Hoping to get some versatility out of the Shrink Ray: Shrinking dangerous enemies, using it to avoid LEAs, and tossing shrunken people to places they can’t climb back up.

Cap is Hulk’s Rival, Hulk is Pym’s Obsession.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Hank switches to Yellowjacket I (YJ1)
-YJ1 inflicts a wound on Reed with his SA
-YJ1 shrinks Reed
-Sue inflicts a wound on YJ1, causing him to drop the Shrink Ray
-Reed picks up the Shrink Ray
-Hulk takes a LEA from Johnny
-Hulk takes out Sue

Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Cap throws his shield, inflicting 2 wounds on Johnny
-Hulk takes out Reed, causing him to drop the Shrink Ray
-T2 had all their OMs on Reed, so they lose a whole round
-Hank switches to YJ2
-YJ2 picks up the Shrink Ray
-YJ2 inflicts a wound on Johnny
-Hulk takes out Johnny

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-YJ2 takes out Jack
-Hulk inflicts a wound on Ben
-Ben inflicts a wound on Hulk
-Hulk inflicts 3 wounds on Ben
-Ben inflicts 3 wounds on Hulk

Round 4: T1 wins initiative
-Cap takes out Ben


Special power usages:
Normal attack: 0 wounds inflicted
Pym Particles: 0 figures prevented from destruction
Robotics Engineering: 0 wounds healed

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Hank Pym (0/4 wounds), Yellowjacket I (1/4 wounds), Yellowjacket II (0/4 wounds), Captain America (0/5 wounds), Hulk (5/7 wounds)

NOTE: I played Jungle Pieces as Obstacles, allowing Hulk to interact with them. It allowed him to advance a bit quicker and get a good toss in.

Post-game thoughts: Ouch. A big win here, but I don’t feel like it totally came down to the Pyms. Cap-boosted Hulk feels absolutely deadly, and the ability to displace figures and leap around was always going to be especially effective against the F4. This mostly felt like a Hulk game with Pym and Cap as backup.

Medium Yellowjacket still kinda sucks, he just loses his gun way too easily. Big YJ, however, has always been a really solid unit, and Pym Prime does a lot to minimize his main downside, making him even better.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: He had 2 decent wins once I actually started using the other Pym forms, but I really feel like he wasn’t a huge factor in Game 3. I’d like to keep him at 90 points, but not really sure what we could do to nerf him if he’s coming in overpowered, other than maybe dropping the Engineering. Ideas welcome.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I really enjoyed this one! I was surprised by how many useful tactics you could pull off.

Only slightly irritating part is the way that the Size Change mechanic conflicts with Ant-Man needing an OM reveal to control his ants. It would be nice to get rid of that on Ant-Man, but it’s a not-insignificant change and I wouldn’t fight too hard for it.

Definitely think Ant-Man and Yellowjacket II are our ones to focus in on during testing. Giant-Man is okay, but YJII just fills the role better. YJI is unfortunately just kinda sucks - Shink Ray feels like just as much of a liability as a benefit. Maybe he could shine with a protector unit though.

Speaking of which, Jocasta feels like a natural pairing here, so it would be cool to see more of her in testing. I'm interested to see if anyone can get more out of Robotics Engineering than I ended up doing.

[Arch-vile]

Rough luck for the F4 there! Sounds like the design is working well though. We're already talking through some Ant-Man wording changes so now is the time for an update if any.

[MrNobody]

Yeah, Hulk really smashed in that match. I think it’s already a great matchup for him, but he also was getting some great rolls.

My honest stance on the Ant-Man issue is that I’d be glad if an Inner Sanctum person wanted to propose it while changes to the power were already going on, but I’m also not going to fight for it if someone feels it’s an issue. Mainly just think that opening up the Ant-Men to more of the Avengers OM hub synergies is generally a good thing, especially if they’re now being limited to common Insects only.