The Book of Iceman (AoA)

[Tornado]

Yea

[Yodaking]

yea

[Arkham]

This passes.

[Arkham]

Nobody playing Iceman's armies vs. me.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Iceman (AoA)

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Army Test 1 @260
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Iceman(260), Cyclops(240), Colossus(315), Sabretooth(270), Angel(90) (1175)
vs.
Fantastic Four(1000), Jason(175) (1175)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:


Vapor Trail:
R2T1: places snow tile under himself.
R2T2: places 1 snow under Cyclops(map height), and a water under both Human Torch and Mr. Fantastic.
R2T2: 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic.
R2T3: 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic.
R3T1: places ice under both himself and Mr. Fantastic.
R3T1: fails roll on Human Torch, 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic, kills him.
R3T3: 1 wound on Human Torch.

Shatter:


Notes:
R1T1: Mr. F rolls a 3.
R1T2: Mr. F rolls a 12. Human Torch puts 1 wound on Sabretooth.
R1T3: Mr. F rolls a 13. Mr. F puts 2 wounds on Colossus(botch + 1 auto).
R1T3: Cyclops(+1) takes 1 wound from LEA, puts 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic. Sabretooth moves and puts 1 wound on Thing with VS.
R2T1: Cyclops(+1) kills Jason. Colossus puts 3 wounds on Invisible Woman(botch).
R2T1: Mr. F rolls a 9. Thing(+3) avoids LEA, puts 1 wound on Colossus.
R2T2: Thing(+3) puts 1 wound on Colossus.
R2T3: Cyclops(+1) puts 1 wound on Mr. Fantastic. Colossus kills Invisible Woman(botch).
R2T3: Mr. F rolls a 3. Puts 1 wound on Cyclops(+1).
R2end: Jason fails roll.
R3T1: Sabretooth puts 2 wounds on Thing(botch).
R3T1: Thing puts 4 wounds on Sabretooth.
R3T2: Cyclops(+1) puts 2 wounds on Human Torch(botch). Sabretooth puts 1 wound on Thing with VS, then heals 1 wound.
R3T3: Colossus takes 1 wound from Thing's RWD. Puts 1 wound on Thing. Then is killed by Thing's RWD. Sabretooth heals 1 wound.
R3T3: Human Torch takes 1 wound from LEA, puts 2 wounds on Cyclops and Iceman with Fo4.
R3end: Jason fails his roll.
R4T1: Thing(+4) puts 1 wound on Sabretooth. Angel then moves Sabretooth to avoid 2nd attack.
R4T2: Sabretooth kills Human Torch.
R4T2: Thing puts 1 wound on Sabretooth.
R4T3: Sabretooth kills Thing with VS.


Iceman with 3/5 wounds, Sabretooth with 2/7 wounds, and Angel with 1/4 wounds.

Nice back and forth that saw a bit of poor luck on the Fantastic Four's side roll wise. I think that may have been the deciding factor, as Thing came up short attack wise, and there were several botches. Jason didn't do anything and never came back. Iceman's unblockables definitely helped for the Mutant army.

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Army Test 2 @260
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Iceman(260), Cyclops(240), Blob(165), Magneto II(375) (1040)
vs.
Professor X(220), Psylocke(250), Omega Red(300), Sage(190), Stepford Cuckoo(80) (1040)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:


Vapor Trail:
R1T2: places a snow tile under Cyclops.
R2T2: fails unblockable on Psylocke.
R2T3: avoids LEA, puts water under Psylocke and snow under himself for height.
R3T1: places ice under Sage.
R3T1: 1 wound on Omega Red.
• fails unblockable on Sage.
R3T2: places ice under Omega Red.
R3T2: fails unblockable on Omega Red.

Shatter:
R1T2: would take 3 wounds from Psylocke, but instead takes 2 and shatters.
R2T1: Iceman is placed on water.

Notes:
R1T1: Sage enhances Omega Red.
R1T3: Omega Red(+1) puts 4 wounds on Blob on 2nd attack(+1, botch).
R1end: Omega Red takes 1 wound.
R2T1: Cyclops puts 2 wounds on Psylocke(+1). Blob puts 2 wounds on Psylocke(auto, botch).
R2T1: Psylocke puts 2 wounds on Blob with Psychic Knife, kills him. Omega Red(+2) puts 3 wounds on Magneto, then heals 1 wound. Omega Red puts 1 more wound on Magneto.
R2T2: Sage kills Magneto(+1).
R2T3: Cyclops(+1) takes 1 wound from Psylocke's MMA.
R2end: Omega does not take a wound.
R3T1: Cyclops(+1) kills Psylocke.
R3T2: Cyclops puts 1 wound on Omega Red(+1) with his SA.
R3T2: Sage puts 1 wound on Cyclops(+1).
R3T2: Omega Red kills Cyclops.
R3T3: Sage kills Iceman(botch).


Omega Red with 3/7 wounds. Professor X, Sage, and Stepford Cuckoo all unwounded.

Blob fell a bit early, but overall Professor X's team just had the edge the whole way through. Magneto wasn't as a big of a factor as Nobody hoped, so the team sort of fell apart from there Cyclops' army fell around him. Iceman was able to dish out a couple wounds, but ultimately in the end he was denied a 2nd shatter since he was the only figure remaining.

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Army Test 3 @260 (re-adjusted Iceman team rematch)
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units:
Iceman(260), Cyclops(240), Blob(165), Cable(275) (1040)
vs.
Professor X(220), Psylocke(250), Omega Red(300), Sage(190), Stepford Cuckoo(80) (1040)

Spoiler Alert!

Normal Attack Damage:


Vapor Trail:
R1T2: places snow under Cyclops.
R2T1: places water under Psylocke, and snow under Cable.

Shatter:


Notes:
R1T1: Sage enhances Omega Red.
R1T2: Omega Red(+2) puts 1 wound on Blob.
R1T3: Cyclops puts 1 wound on Omega Red.
R1T3: Omega Red(+2) puts 3 wounds on Blob(+1, botch).
R1end: Omega Red takes 1 wound.
R2T1: Sage kills Blob(+1, botch), then enhances Psylocke. Psylocke then puts 3 wounds on Cyclops.
R2T1: Cyclops avoids LEA, then rolls a 7 skulls SA on Omega Red and Sage, killing both. Cable(+2) puts 1 wound on Psylocke(+1).
R2T2: Dazzler places 1 marker on Psylocke. Cable(+2) puts 2 wounds on Psylocke(-1 +1) in 2 attacks.
R2T3: Cyclops(+1) puts 1 wound on Psylocke(-1 +1). Cable(+2) kills Psylocke(-1 +1) in 2 attacks.
R3T1: Cyclops(+1) puts 1 wound on Professor X.
R3T2: Professor X reveals his X to block Cyclops' attack. Cable(+2) puts 1 wound on Professor X in 2 attacks.
R3T3: Cuckoo(+1) puts 1 wound on Cyclops(+1).
R4T1: Cyclops puts 2 wounds on Cuckoo(+1). Dazzler places a marker on Cuckoo. Cable kills Cuckoo.


Cyclops with 4/5 wounds. Cable, Iceman, and Dazzler unwounded.

This is about the opposite of the previous match, a huge SA from Cyclops wrecked Omega Red and Sage early, which dictated the rest of the match as Psylocke struggled to defend from range. Iceman didn't play as much of a factor here.

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NOBODY'S THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Had a good time with Iceman! His ability to place height for Cyclops and friends was super useful, and I imagine it will be with Magneto (AoA) as well.

Had some bad luck in the second game, with Blob and Magneto taking big hits and falling early. But then I had some great luck in the third, with Cyclops getting a massive Optic Destruction in.

[MrNobody]

Had a good time with Iceman! His ability to place height for Cyclops and friends was super useful, and I imagine it will be with Magneto (AoA) as well.

Had some bad luck in the second game, with Blob and Magneto taking big hits and falling early. But then I had some great luck in the third, with Cyclops getting a massive Optic Destruction in.

[japes]

Nobody beat you with Iceman...well Iceman is obviously over powered.

[MrNobody]

I had a few moments where Arkham coached me to make better plays. He's definitely better at this than I am.

[japes]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I had a few moments where Arkham coached me to make better plays. He's definitely better at this than I am.

All in good fun...I'm sure you are better than me as well.

[Karat]

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Iceman II


Version Tested

Spoiler Alert!

NAME = ICEMAN
SECRET IDENTITY = BOBBY DRAKE *Crossover*

SPECIES = MUTANT
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = REBEL
PERSONALITY = COLD

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 6
RANGE = 6
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 260

VAPOR TRAIL
Start the game with 2 ice tiles, 2 single-hex snow tiles, and 2 water tiles on this card. After moving, you may place any number of tiles from this card onto any land spaces Iceman moved over this turn, as long as the tile and any occupying figure still fit normally onto that space. When a figure within 6 clear sight spaces of Iceman that does not have the Ice Resistance special power starts its turn on an ice, snow, or water tile, you may immediately roll an unblockable attack die against that figure.

ICE RESISTANCE
Slippery Ice and Heavy Snow only count as 1 space when moving. Add 1 to Iceman's defense while on an ice or snow space.

SHATTER
Anytime Iceman receives two or more wounds, you may ignore all but two of those wounds and remove Iceman from the battlefield even if he is not destroyed. After any Order Marker is revealed on an Army Card, if Iceman is not destroyed, you may place him on an empty ice, snow, or water space.

FLYING

Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? Hard to say but seems about right.
- Give a brief overview. Thisnwas an absolute slaughter. The Atlanteans just could not get their feet under them but Iceman managed to be useful regardless.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Iceman II, Ocean Master, Palace Guards, Namor, Aqualad Garth, Hydro-Man (1,100) vs Cap, Ms. Marvel, Gamora, Nightcrawler (1100)

Spoiler Alert!

Ocean Master is a King. Cap, Ms. Marvel, Gamora, and Nightcrawler are Avengers.
R1
Aquarians have Initiative. IN T3 Marvel blasts away Aqualad.
R2
Avengers have initiative. In T1 Cap took out a Guard. T2 Nightcrawler took out 2 Guards and Marvel one shot Ocean. T3 Nightcrawler took out the last Guard and gave Namor a wound and Marvel gave Namor a wound, and Iceman flew in leaving a Vapor Trail putting Himself on Snow, Marvel and Nightcrawler on Ice and Namor on Water and hits Marvel for 1 and takes 1 from her Best Defense.
R3
Avengers have Initiative. T1 Cap takes out Namor, OM on Namor. T2 Marvel takes a wound for starting on a Ice Tile and gives Iceman 2 wounds, OM on Namor. T3 Gamora finished off Iceman.
R4
Aquarians have initiative. In T1 Cap gives Hydro 2 wounds. T2 Hydro unleashes a Tidal Wave giving Cap and Marvel a wound each, and Gamora finished off Hydro.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Avengers won with Marvel bearing 3/5 wounds, Cap bearing 2/5 wounds and Nightcrawler and Gamora unwounded.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 250ish?
- Give a brief overview. Thisnwas very nearly another Slaughter. Colossus nearly.singlehandedly turned the tide. Iceman's biggest usefulness was as a wounded target for Colossus here.
Map: Conflict Chernobyl
Units: Iceman II, Sabretooth II, Wild Child, Colossus II, Shadow Cat II (1,190) vs Nightwing, Starfire, Raven, Superboy (Kon-El), Red Robin, Arsenal (1,190)

Spoiler Alert!

Red Robin brought Bolas.
R1
Rebels have initiative. In T3 raven moved up giving Sabretooth a wound and Arsenal Bolas'd Kitty.
R2
Titans have initiative. In T1 Arsenal Bolas's Sabertooth and gives Wild Child 2 wounds, and Sabretooth and Wild Child heal. In T2 Arsenal uses his last bolas on Sabretooth and gives him 2 wounds knocking it off. In T2 Nightwing gives Wild a wound and Kittty Phases, and Colossus moves up pummeling Arsenal and Wild Child gives Nightwing 2 wounds and heals. In T3 Starfire finished off Wild, and Iceman disengages leaving a Vapor Trail and taking 2 wounds.
R3
Titans have initiative. In T1 Supes finished off Sabretooth, Raven took one from ice and used it to finish Sabertooth, and Nightwing gives Iceman a wound, and Colossus moves up choosing Iceman giving Starfire 3 wounds. In T3 Colossus Ice finishing off Starfire and giving Supervoy a wound.
R4
Rebels have initiative. In T1 Colossus moves up choosing Iceman and giving Superboy 2 wounds, and Superboy takes a wound from the Vapor Trail and gives Colossus 2 wounds, Raven absorbs 2 wounds from Nightwing and transfering 1 to Iceman, and Nightwing gives Colossus a woundnwith his Escrima. In T2 Colossus chooses Iceman and finishes off Superboy, OM on Superboy. In T3 Colossus moves up choosing Iceman ad giving Raven 3 wounds, OM on Superboy.
R5
Rebels have Initiative. In T1 Colossus chooses Iceman and finishes off Raven, and Red Robin moves up failing to Bolas Colossus and Nightwing finishes off Collossus and Iceman and gives Kitty 2 wounds knocking the Bolas off. In T2 OM on Colossus. In T3 Red Robin finished off Kitty after Bolasing her.
Who won and how many wounds did they have? Titans won with Nightwing and Red Robin unwounded.

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Seems maybe just a little bit high. I might consider dropping down to 250, but he's plenty draftable.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: He's fine for what he does. Hard to get good use out of though but planned expansion will help with that. Worked best as a wound target for Colossus for me.

[Arkham]

Looking to wrap this up in the next day or two. Here's the current breakdown:
@260 4-4
Close loss.
Close win.

Close/Medium loss.

Medium win.
Medium win.

Medium/Big loss.

Big loss.
Big win. (near non-factor)

I played in every game, 3 with him, and 5 against him. Felt fine right at 260.

[Arch-vile]

Agreed, looking good.

[tcglkn]

Looks good to me so far.