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I guess it also comes down to the fact that I am willing to trust God's omniscience, (all-knowingness), over my fractured, limited point of view and ability to reason. I'm willing to trust his "Because I said so." and you aren't. Regarding why Christ had to die, I've stated it as best I can. I think the communication problem is my fault, since you still seem to be confused, but I tried to articulate it as best I can and honestly can't really think of a better way to explain it that you'll understand. I'm deeply sorry about that. |
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Tournament Armies Played - C3VRP - Customs - Trades I'm Krug in the Paradox Keep and Augamo on the Sacred Tundra. |
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I would like to point out that not all Christians think homosexuality is as bad as it used to be considered, especially considering there's little to no mention of it in the New Testament.
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My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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Homosexuality is just God allowing us to freely choose. |
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I don't believe that God created people to be homosexuals. The Bible does talk about God "giving them over" also translated as "abandoning" people to homosexuality in Romans. That is, God gives them free will and allows them to engage in homosexuality, but those actions still invoke judgment.
Even if there is a genetic component to homosexuality, that still wouldn't make it okay in my opinion. Certain genes increase the probability that individuals will murder others, or rape others. That doesn't mean that murder or rape is okay. Also, after the fall, sin ruptured creation in very real ways, introducing disease and sickness into the world, including genetic diseases such as hemophilia and other genetic maladies. In which case, it is possible, in my mind, that the genes that lead to a person's affinity for a certain immoral behavior, whatever it may be, were not part of God's original intent but were instead a consequence of sin's effects on creation. Even if homosexual attraction is genetically influenced, it would only increase the temptation of such activity, and such temptation should be resisted. ~Anonymous, not wanting to continue the homosexuality debate, because he's already had it before on this forum, and he doesn't think it should be the primary focus of the discussion. |
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Regarding "Original sin caused disease, etc." I find it baffling that people believe that the universe was changed so radically by something so insignificant as the actions of people. Our planet has been here for billions of years, and we have been here for a tiny fraction of that. I'm sure the dinosaurs had diseases long before we were here. But I realize I'm talking about scientific evidence for an Earth that wasn't made last Tuesday, so some folks simply won't agree.
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Removing the hocus pocus from why God let people kill him on a cross...
The only way that humanity could be saved st this point was to sacrifice a pure one. None existed. God decided that his offspring (Jesus) would be the only suitable sacrifice. At this point Jesus is born and lives purely for God. The people kill him, and Jesus calls it the sacrifice for humanity. Now historically, Jesus was being persecuted and was going to be killed. Jesus just decided that he'd call himself a sacrifice (it was the old you cant fire me I quit gag). My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. |
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Also, likening homosexuality to murder, rape and diseases is the most offensive thing I've read on this site. How dare you? However, I now know your opinions, that logic won't change your mind, and that I can put you down as a religious bigot. Quote:
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LazyO, your replying to my having given a neutral answer to a question. Any reason?
(This was the homosexuality bit, not my description of Jesus' death). My customs. NE Ohio Tourney - TBA SW Ohio Tourney - NHSD 550 points AotV - Colliding the minis of AotP with the world of HS. Last edited by flameslayer93; January 14th, 2014 at 09:06 PM. Reason: My position on homosexuality isnt needed to be discussed here ^.^ |
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Also, the Church's stance on most of the stuff in genesis is that it could very well be legend, we aren't sure as the human authors that wrote genesis weren't there to experience what happened and as a result genesis is just supposed to be a way to guide us to certain truths God has revealed to us. That is why the Church can believe in both, genesis tells us God created man because he loves us and wants to share his love, evolution just tells us a way he might have created us. |
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Lazy, I view homosexuality as a moral violation of God's law. So are rape and murder, so is theft, so is heterosexual lust, so is disobeying your parents. It's not the same sin as rape or murder, but it carries with it the same punishment, because at root it is a rejection of God's law. I don't believe it is caused by genetics, but if it is caused by genetics, I don't believe that God put it there, and I was explaining how even if it was genetically influenced as you asserted it would not be God's intention. I think it should be noted that I only answered the question after you repeatedly raised the issue over multiple posts. I suspect you may have guessed that since I believe the Bible is true, I might not agree with homosexuality. So I think the idea that "Now I know what you really stand for!" is a little bit disingenuous. It's not as though I went out of my way to raise the issue and was looking for an opportunity to bring it up. You were the one who kept pushing the issue. I simply responded to your questions after you prodded me multiple times.
If my fidelity to God's word makes me a religious bigot in your book, there's not really much I can do about it, but I'm not going to lie and say that I don't believe God's word, because in the end he's the one I'll have to answer to, not you. I think at this point, I've elucidated God's standards for sexual activity multiple times, and the fact that violating those standards does result in emotional and spiritual effects. You reject that premise. That's fine. I don't see much point in repeating the same thing I've stated multiple times to you and PGS earlier in the thread. I've tried to conduct myself in a respectful way throughout. I hope at the very least, that this thread caused you to think about these issues more fully, and I hope that someday you come to know the God who is just, who is good, and who loves you. |
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