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Re: Wyvern & Lava
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It seems to be boiling down to "Which phrase should be errata-ed in?" A: If the Wyvern dies upon landing, then its chosen figure is not Talon Grabbed. or B: Talon Grab takes place regardless of whether or not the Wyvern survives landing. EDIT: Also, "seems...seems...seems." We need more synonyms. Seem: assume, be suggestive of, convey the impression, create the impression, give the feeling of, give the idea of, have the appearance of, have the aspects of, have the earmarks of, have the features of, have the qualities of, hint, imply, insinuate, intimate, look, look as if, look like, look to be, make a show of, pretend, resemble, show, show every sign of, sound, sound like, strike one as being, suggest That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons, even death may die. Heroes of StarWars 'Scape / North Carolina 'Scapers |
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Re: Wyvern & Lava
If I had to rule on this I would say that it is doable. The reason is that you do not roll for lava until you stop. At this point you have ended your move and must place the grabbed figure and then roll the D20. This is not a ruling, just my reasoning that I would be using if such a question required a ruling.
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Re: Wyvern & Lava
I thought Ry was mostly addressing Oncara's very different question. (You can't land on the guy you're moving.)
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Is the "chosen" vs. "affected" thing a valid comparison? For some reason, I keep thinking in my mind that it makes sense to compare it here, but when I try and spell out an argument, I got nothing. Like battle reports? Click Tourney Reports (New 10/21/2012 - Cutters / Brutes!) KC's Maps Click KC's Customs Scaper of the Week #57 |
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Actually, I think the debate is answered a few posts back where someone quoted the lava rules:
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Ah, but Talon Grab reads:
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Which comes first?
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Re: Wyvern & Lava
Well how about this: can a unit with SLITHER keep moving after it moves onto molten lava, if it survives the molten lava damage roll? I think the answer is yes. Molten Lava is treated like water, and SLITHER means you don't have to stop on water, so it means you don't have to stop on lava either (but you do have to roll for death of course).
I think this demonstrates that the molten lava damage roll is (or should be) considered "before" the "end of movement". Because the movement phase might not be over. So I stand by the Wyvern should roll for lava first. If it survives, it can place the chosen figure. Last edited by Grim; February 18th, 2010 at 05:41 PM. Reason: rules mistake |
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I beleive you guys have already arrived at the correct interpretation, the one supported by the rules and the timing mechnics in the game. Now, it is just a matter of accepting it. |
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Re: Wyvern & Lava
Heh. Follow-up fun:
Molten Lava is treated like water except for the lava damage roll. Greater Ice Elemental turns water to ice. If a GIE moves onto molten lava and survives hot lava death, those lava spaces and any adjacent are considered ice, right? From that point forward, right? No more lava damage rolls, RIGHT? Last edited by Grim; February 18th, 2010 at 05:41 PM. Reason: rules mistake |
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Re: Wyvern & Lava
Schreodinger's Wyvern
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