War of the valkyrie. epic heroscape campaign for 6 players

[rihnoswirl]

hi guys. im working on an epic campaign for heroscape. its gonna be called war of the valkyrie and is going to have around 20 - 25 scenarios. its also gonna support up to 6 players. i hope to have it done by middle of august.

[Scapemage]

Cool! SOunds fun!

[Fedex worker]

Wow! That sounds cool. Is it going to be like a dungeon type campaign?

[rihnoswirl]

Originally Posted by Fedex worker

Wow! That sounds cool. Is it going to be like a dungeon type campaign?

no it is gonna be each player is one of the valkyrie generals ( ullar, einar etc) at the start its just jandar and utgar but later in the game they can gain different alliances whereas the players begin to make teams and form the alliance. also it wont always unravel like the official text. in one game it might be utgar and vydar against everyone else, as in the next it might be jandar and aquilla against everyone else. you will also be able to purchase different weapons and artifacts to boost your army.
i will give you more info later

[Uchiha Blood]

Originally Posted by rihnoswirl

no it is gonna be each player is one of the valkyrie generals ( ullar, einar etc) at the start its just jandar and utgar but later in the game they can gain different alliances whereas the players begin to make teams and form the alliance. also it wont always unravel like the official text. in one game it might be utgar and vydar against everyone else, as in the next it might be jandar and aquilla against everyone else. you will also be able to purchase different weapons and artifacts to boost your army.
i will give you more info later

The only problem I can foresee is that if the players do go with the normal storyline, it doesn't matter how many points the Utgar player gets he only gets 1 turn per OM versus 5 turns per OM. He would have to play the map really well.

[Scapemage]

Originally Posted by rihnoswirl

no it is gonna be each player is one of the valkyrie generals ( ullar, einar etc) at the start its just jandar and utgar but later in the game they can gain different alliances whereas the players begin to make teams and form the alliance. also it wont always unravel like the official text. in one game it might be utgar and vydar against everyone else, as in the next it might be jandar and aquilla against everyone else. you will also be able to purchase different weapons and artifacts to boost your army.
i will give you more info later

Visual Interpretation:

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only the green saber is blue
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There's no concept. Generals magically go away and come back during a war..... not too realistic.

[Warlord Alpha]

Originally Posted by scapemage921

There's no concept. Generals magically go away and come back during a war..... not too realistic.

???

I think you need to read that again, I don't think you understand what he was saying (although to be fair, Rhinoswirl your description isn't the best). He seems to be saying that basically it is a generic 6-way free for all, except each player is a Valkyrie general and only 2 of them start on the map at once. Then more people join and make alliances and stuff, so it might be 2v2v2 or 3v3 with like Utgar, Jandar, and Ullar fighting Einar, Aquilla, and Vydar or something like that.

[Scapemage]

Originally Posted by Warlord Alpha

???

I think you need to read that again, I don't think you understand what he was saying (although to be fair, Rhinoswirl your description isn't the best). He seems to be saying that basically it is a generic 6-way free for all, except each player is a Valkyrie general and only 2 of them start on the map at once. Then more people join and make alliances and stuff, so it might be 2v2v2 or 3v3 with like Utgar, Jandar, and Ullar fighting Einar, Aquilla, and Vydar or something like that.

But If that's the case? Generals would be constantly switching teams, and since when does Jandar fight WITH Utgar? According to the original, Master Set 1 Setting, it should be Utgar, Einar, and Vydar against Jandar and Ullar (Add Aquilla to even it out).

[Warlord Alpha]

Originally Posted by scapemage921

But If that's the case? Generals would be constantly switching teams, and since when does Jandar fight WITH Utgar? According to the original, Master Set 1 Setting, it should be Utgar, Einar, and Vydar against Jandar and Ullar (Add Aquilla to even it out).

That's part of the fun of a free-for-all. Betraying your teammates and being devious is tons of fun.

And as for the storyline, see the bolded part. Rhino acknowledges that it won't always unfold like the original, that's part of the point. You are the Valkyrie general making the decisions is the whole point.

Also, since when was it Utgar, Einar, and Vydar against Jandar and Ullar? Wasn't it always just Utgar vs. everyone else?

[rihnoswirl]

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[rihnoswirl]

[/quote]But If that's the case? Generals would be constantly switching teams, and since when does Jandar fight WITH Utgar? According to the original, Master Set 1 Setting, it should be Utgar, Einar, and Vydar against Jandar and Ullar (Add Aquilla to even it out).[/quote] no. jandar and utgar can never be on one team. in the start its just a two player campaign where jandar and utgar are fighting whith certain rules. for instance the first scenario called through the valley gives jandar sir dupuis and 200 points defending against an orc ambush in the soulrazor canyon. the winning player gets control of the area and also gets experience to their army. this can be used to bribe the other generals into alliances, buy weapons ( credit to aliasqtip for his awsome weapon cards) or collect artifacts for their heroes or army. the alliance factor is also a tactical point in the game. for example: if you are playing jandar, ullar is a wery cheap allie since their families have been friends for generations, as utgar has to pay much more to gain ullars allegiance. the experience is also a fun thing. lets take scenario 5 i believe for an example. utgar is laying asiege to idona castle and has 800 points and the reinforcement rules (explained later) as jandar has drake (rotv), airborne elite, and 400 points. if jandar wins, he gets much more experience since he had a harder battle than utgar would have gotten if he won. and some times the players in an alliance are not even on teams (actually they really are but they play with their own turns) as in scenario 6 i think. there jandar has just been attacked by utgar in the avorice stand. aquilla sees this and sends her forces to help jandar. this makes aquilla an interesting allie since she will only be joining jandar.

[Scapemage]

Originally Posted by Warlord Alpha

That's part of the fun of a free-for-all. Betraying your teammates and being devious is tons of fun.

And as for the storyline, see the bolded part. Rhino acknowledges that it won't always unfold like the original, that's part of the point. You are the Valkyrie general making the decisions is the whole point.

Also, since when was it Utgar, Einar, and Vydar against Jandar and Ullar? Wasn't it always just Utgar vs. everyone else?

No, back in the gold 'ole days, in the times of the Rise of the Valkyrie, when the war was just beginning, it was Utgar, Einar, and Vydar vs. Jandar and Ullar. It didn't change until Swarm of the Marro.