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Old April 6th, 2021, 01:30 PM
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Re: vegie's C3V/SoV Power Rankings

I'm moving Kuthnak up to A- after he had a great performance in the Peoria tournament this weekend. boromir took Kuthnak, Deathchasers x6, Nerak, MBS to a dominant win over infectedsloth's Dwarves x4, Ulfrid, Darrak, Johnny Shotgun Sullivan and a solid win over vegie dad's Knights x3, Sir Gilbert, Krug, Marro Warriors. Two wins over very solid melee bonding standbys.

boromir's build was only 500 points at a 515 point tournament; not a huge amount to sit but still significant. More significant because it's a great 500 point army for any tournament. Easily viable at 450 cutting a squad of Chasers. I was of the opinion that Kuthnak was at his best with Chasers before, since whirlwinds of 5 attack are insane, and I think I hold by that even more. MBS and Nerak are much more natural pairings for what Kuthnak backed Orcs want to do than the Orc Champion bonders. I've never loved Grimank with Kuthnak, since they kind of want to do opposite things. Grimnak wants to keep your Orcs alive and use those Orcs as physical protection around him, Kuthnak wants to send your Orcs in as missiles. Nerak is good for protecting the Deathchasers while they wait for the right missile opportunity to open up, and MBS puts pressure on your opponent from range. It's a much more natural combination, although the disengage from Heavies or Blades is definitely missed.

My original opinion on Kuthnak was that you can learn to play around him. This was really an opinion developed after two games; I played against him once against my dad and got demolished, then played against BodaciousBlood and fared a lot better after having some experience on how to deny the whirlwinds. Kuthnak can be played around, you can deny the whirlwind, but when you play around him you often open the Deathchasers to punish you in a different way. It's more complicated than playing around explosion attacks but it opens up your army in a similar way. And unlike explosion attacks, your opponent doesn't need an order marker to activate a Kuthnak bomb, they can just use it when there's an opportunity and decline it when there isn't.
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