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Tornado June 6th, 2013 12:44 PM
The Book of Judge Death
 
The Book of Judge Death

C3G 2000AD PUBLIC EXCLUSIVE COLLECTION 12
DEATH AND DECEPTION

http://heroscapers.com/c3g/released/...eath_comic.png

Comic PDF

http://heroscapers.com/c3g/released/...Death_mini.png

Mini PDF

The figure used for this unit is a Heroclix figure from the Indy set.
Its model number and name are #092 / Judge Death.
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Character Bio -
(A twisted creature from another dimension, Judge Death reasoned that since all crime was committed by the living, that life itself was unlawful.
The turning point for Sydney was discovering the Sisters of Death. With their help he became the undead monster Judge Death, before repeating the procedure on three other Judges. They became Judge Fear, Fire, and Mortis - The Dark Judges.
Together they exterminated all life on their planet and renamed it Deadworld. When an dimensional traveler accidentally stumbled on Deadworld, Death killed him and took the technology for the Dark Judges. With it, he reasoned, they could eradicate life across other worlds and dimensions.) [comicvine]
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-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • N/A
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-Combinations and Synergies-

Incoming Synergy:
  • As an Undead, Judge Death has these Undead Synergies.
  • As a Dark Judge, Judge Death may be moved by Judge Fire's Purge the Sinners special power.
Outgoing Synergy:
  • Judge Death may activate an Undead Hero with his Death Sentence Special Attack. Current Undead.
  • When Judge Death is destroyed, you may place him on the card of any Unique Undead Hero you control with Death Never Dies special power. Current Unique Undead Heroes.
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-Immunities, Benefits, and Weaknesses-

ImmunitiesBenefitsWeaknesses_________________________________________________________________

-Strategy, Tactics and Tips-
  • As an Undead figure, Judge Death is vulnerable to certain abilities, such as Hawkman's Nth Metal Mace and Blade's Silver Weapons.
-Heroscapers Community Contributions-

Tornado June 6th, 2013 12:46 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
NAME = JUDGE DEATH
SECRET IDENTITY = SIDNEY DE'ATH

SPECIES = UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = DARK JUDGE
PERSONALITY = MALEVOLENT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 295

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 2.
Unique figures may not roll more than 1 defense die and Common figures may not roll defense dice against this special attack. Androids, Undead, and destructible objects roll defense dice normally. After revealing a numbered Order Marker on this card, if Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

DEATH NEVER DIES
When Judge Death is destroyed, you may remove all markers, including Order Markers, from this card and place him on the card of any Undead Unique Hero you control. After Judge Death has been destroyed, when a figure with Judge Death on its card attacks and destroys an opponent's figure that is not an Android, Undead, or destructible object, you may immediately replace the destroyed figure with Judge Death.

DIMENSIONAL TELEPORT
At the end of each round, if Judge Death is on the battlefield and there are two or fewer Wound Markers on this card, you may place him on any empty space on the battlefield. When Judge Death is moved with Dimensional Teleport, he may not be placed adjacent to an opponent's figure and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.


Tornado June 6th, 2013 12:49 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
http://mestadelsbilder.files.wordpre...ath_super1.jpg
Original design. Playtests 1&2
Spoiler Alert!

2nd version
Spoiler Alert!

Karat June 6th, 2013 01:00 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Subscribed :up:

Karat June 6th, 2013 01:10 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
I wonder if this can't be trimmed down a bit.

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When attacked by this special attack, Unique Heroes may not roll more than 1 defense die and Squad figures may not roll defense dice.Squad figures cannot roll defense dice when attacked with this special attack. Unique heroes attacked with this special attack cannot roll more than 1 defense die. Androids, Undead, and Destructible Objects roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

For pasteability:

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When attacked by this special attack, Unique Heroes may not roll more than 1 defense die and Squad figures may not roll defense dice. Androids, Undead, and Destructible Objects roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

Also, now that I'm thinking about it, what if Common or Uncommon Heroes are attacked by this Special? Perhaps we should address that.

Red Eyed Jedi June 6th, 2013 01:13 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Looking good T-Spinny!

Should Death Never Dies remove all markers, or just wound markers. Thanos, Doomsday, Grundy, all come back with other markers on them, seems like he should as well.

:Edit: good point Karat. Maybe it should be common instead of squads, and isn't uncommon the same as Unique when referred to on powers?

IAmBatman June 6th, 2013 01:22 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Karat (Post 1825120)
I wonder if this can't be trimmed down a bit.

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When attacked by this special attack, Unique Heroes may not roll more than 1 defense die and Squad figures may not roll defense dice.Squad figures cannot roll defense dice when attacked with this special attack. Unique heroes attacked with this special attack cannot roll more than 1 defense die. Androids, Undead, and Destructible Objects roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

For pasteability:

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When attacked by this special attack, Unique Heroes may not roll more than 1 defense die and Squad figures may not roll defense dice. Androids, Undead, and Destructible Objects roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

Also, now that I'm thinking about it, what if Common or Uncommon Heroes are attacked by this Special? Perhaps we should address that.
Uncommon Heroes and Unique Heroes are treated the same under the rules, so the mention of Unique Heroes covers Uncommons. That said, Unique Squads and Common Heroes are not covered in the text. Event Heroes, presumably, are left out on purpose I'd break down the first line (I like the condensed version) based on Unique figures and Common figures instead of Unique Heroes and Squad figures.

The reference to Destructible Objects is not needed because, like Event Heroes, there's nothing in the power that specifically affects them, so no exception needs to be made for them. Destructible Objects are not Squad figures or Unique Heroes. Nor are they Unique figures or Common figures.

Tornado June 6th, 2013 01:26 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Great points. We need to lump common heroes in with squads or unique heroes. I am leaning towards squads.

Removing all the markers was intended to limit how awesome the power is REJ. I am all for allowing OMs to stay on as long as it does not drive up his cost.
I like that all markers are removed in case there is a 'negative' marker on his card. I guess we could make it all markers except OMs.

EDIT: Thanks Bats. All squads are lumped together, regardless of Unique or Common. Nice call on the DOs.

We can just make it Unique and Common. That sounds straight forward enough.

Karat June 6th, 2013 01:37 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Not sure there would be a good way to distinguish between all other markers and OMs. I'd say just remove all or just wound markers would be simpler.

Incorporating Bats' suggestion for you:

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When attacked by this special attack, Unique Heroesfigures may not roll more than 1 defense die and SquadCommon figures may not roll defense dice. Androids,and Undead, and Destructible Objectsfigures roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

For pasteability:

DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
When attacked by this special attack, Unique figures may not roll more than 1 defense die and Common figures may not roll defense dice. Android and Undead figures roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with this special attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.

dok June 6th, 2013 01:56 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
The current version doesn't cover Common Heroes at all; they would roll defense dice normally. That doesn't seem intentional.

Assuming Event Heroes being exempt is intentional, I would phrase it this way:
DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
Common and Squad Figures do not roll defense dice, and Unique Heroes may not roll more than 1 defense die, when attacked by Death Sentence Special Attack. Androids, Undead, and Destructible Objects roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with Death Sentence Special Attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.
(You can make it "Unique and Event Heroes" if that wasn't intentional. Event Heroes have a lot of life, usually, so they're not terribly vulnerable to this attack either way.)

Test build:

290 JD
290 Solomon Grundy
320 Frankenstein
900

SG doesn't need OMs until Frank is dead, becuase both Frank and JD can activate him. JD can be put on Solomon Grundy so you can never really get him out of the game until everyone is dead.

The obvious weakness of the army is that it's three melee heroes, with no real protection against ranged attacks, only one special attack, no autowounders, and no ability to move opponent's figures. At higher point totals these are the things I would try to address. No need for more undead figures IMO.

Karat June 6th, 2013 02:00 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Dok, see the wording edit above your post, it would cover Common-Unique Heroes and Squad figures. Just saying ;)

dok June 6th, 2013 02:03 PM
Re: The Book of Judge Death (Design Phase)
 
Yeah, you ninja'ed me. Sorry, I was doing other things.

It's just a question of where you want unique squad figures to fall. If that's not a big deal, than sure, it gets simpler. I'd then go with:
DEATH SENTENCE SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 1. Attack 3.
Common figures do not roll defense dice, and Unique figures may not roll more than 1 defense die, when attacked by Death Sentence Special Attack. Androids, Undead, and Destructible Objects roll defense dice normally. If Judge Death destroys a figure with Death Sentence Special Attack, you may immediately take a turn with any other Undead Hero you control.


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