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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
Sweet thanks! Yeah Asia has a lot more firepower than Domon, but no defensive abilities, so they kind of even out a little bit (Even though Asia is a 100 points more).
Happy he's fun, that's the biggest thing. If he's still hot in the next tests we can raise his points or something again. |
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Re: Master Asia - Vote for Editing
Yeah even if you literally read it as "1 plus shields" not having the plural 's' feels wrong.
This passes to editing. |
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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
Awesome, thanks! Sounds about right where he needs to be. I'm not worried about a few losses, his main Gundam will be a good upgrade for him anyway. Shifty is also signed up so I'll give him some time to finish that up before moving on here.
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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: MASTER ASIA VERSION TESTED
Spoiler Alert!
Team Test Map: KAMAR-TAJ Units: Trickster (Axel) (70), Flash (Barry) (JL) (270), Atom (JL) (100), Shining Gundam (280), Master Asia (280) (1000) vs Baron Heinrich Zemo (180), Enchantress (320), Executioner (340), Radioactive Man (160) (1000) Unit Summary: I failed to use the Gundam healing on Flash effectively here. Master Asia and the Shining Gundam were a strong combo that easily could’ve prevailed with a bit more help from their allies or a swing or two in end game. Game Summary
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___________________________________________________________ Team TestMap: KAMAR-TAJ Units: Shining Gundam (280), Master Asia (280), Batman (JL) (230), Wonder Woman (JL) (310) (1100) vs Batman (Outsiders) (220), Geo-Force (280), Katana (150), Black Lightning (150), Metamorpho (300) (1100) Unit Summary: Another game where Master Asia and Shining Gundam tore it up early but their allies couldn’t finish things in end game. Game Summary
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___________________________________________________________ UNIT SUMMARY: He’s a big scary beatstick, but if you can outlast him, he’s not so bad. Feels about right where he’s at.
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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: MASTER ASIA VERSION TESTED
Spoiler Alert!
Team Test Map: Conflict Chernobyl Units: Zemo, Asia, Shining Gundam, Deadshot, Heatwave vs Leonardo, Michelangelo, Donatello, Raphael, Splinter Unit Summary: Used Asia as a strong master of evil, taking advantage of the reposition abilities and strong normal attack to get through the big defense numbers that turtles have. Very effective at tanking the damage. Game Summary
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Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Master Asia (4 life), and Heatwave (full life). ___________________________________________________________ Team TestMap: Conflict Chernobyl Units: Shining Gundam, Master Asia, Ironman, Black Panther (Shuri) vs Human Torch, The Thing, Invisible Woman, Mr. Fantastic Unit Summary: Game where I was able to control the pacing pretty well with a mobile flying unit and the Mech got an opportunity to move adjacent to invisible woman. Mech went down on a surprise whiff but Master Asia himself held out very well. Game Summary
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Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Master Asia (3 life remaining), Black Panther (full life) ___________________________________________________________ UNIT SUMMARY: Awesome offensive power on this unit and pretty tanky with the boosted stats that Asia gives. I think the strongest part of the build is the ability to reposition slower moving melee units on maps that have water or terrain that requires them to take the long way around. Definitely beatable and prone to whiffs but feels like a good amount of action economy for the investment of points here. Enjoyed playing it, even whiffing Shining Finger didn't feel too horrible because I was consistently putting out unblockables and throwing around a big normal attack. The ability to reduce defense with a d20 and then automatically reduce defense with a special attack was pretty helpful in getting wounds through on heavily defended targets.From Splash: Master Asia is definitely a fearsome opponent. The first matchup was bad for the TMNT since Zemo got to trash turns, so I don't think it was in the cards anyway. I think the combo in the Shining Gundam just has too much offensive output against most teams, 2nd game FF had a harder time and Thing got some whoppers in. The potential for -4 defense is scary, but rare enough. The Death by Shing Finger has already been tested for. I think the power lies in Master Asia's last ability getting a constant -2 and moving figures about, both in and out of mech. After taking out his mech you still have him to fight and the damage die add up. Just based off these games, the main thing is I think his last SA should be once per round, reducing the placement and defense reduction potency. I might also suggest he be costed at 300-320, either instead of that or if he's real strong anyway. |
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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
Yeah he did his part in each test
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
I don't think a slight cost bump would hurt him any (he felt strong enough in my two losses with him). But I don't think he's OP or anything either.
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: Master Asia - Public Testing
So his win ratio is 4-5 which is solid. These last two wins weren't blowouts or anything, and sounds like the map was half of the issue with the water placement, which is an issue for any thrower really. Sounds like one of the most potent comboes is the vulcan defense breaker and master cloth, so my plan is to limit the Shining's power to only work on normal attacks. Since that's Domon's suit, and he doesn't have any special attacks, it makes sense anyway. So that combo will be nerfed and should be good going forward.
All that said, he'll get more testing with his personal Gundam which is up next for me, so he'll have more eyes on him either way. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another tweak or two to get him to mesh well with Master Gundam. I propose we move to Editing |
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Re: Master Asia - Vote for Editing
yea
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Re: Master Asia - Vote for Editing
Yea
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Re: Master Asia - Vote for Editing
1+ shields is correct, as it's a plural number of things. ("One or more".)
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Re: Master Asia - Vote for Editing
I don't believe it actually is plural in this context though.
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