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Old February 19th, 2013, 04:32 PM
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

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Congratulations Dok on the first SOV approved creation!

Here's a question that I hope I didn't miss the answer to elsewhere:
Does Zombie Rises Again stop working after the last Zombie Hulk is destroyed? My intuition goes both ways on this. My first intuition is that powers on cards don't work unless the (or at least one) figure is still alive, a la Marcus Decimus Gallus's Soldier Leadership; unless an exception is specified on the card a la Thanos' Rejected By Death. My second intuition, however, is that if this were the case it would be useless to draft only one copy of the Zombie Hulk. Maybe both my intuitions are correct and I'm overthinking it . . .
The ZH card says "any Undead Savage..." so your destroyed ZH(s) can come back into play.
I realize that the FAQ for this unit clarifies that this is indeed correct...but is this the right explanation? Marcus says all soldiers receive +1 move, but this ability is not applicable if Marcus has been destroyed. What in the Zombie Hulk's wording differentiates 'Zombie Rises Again' so that the ability is still active even when the card has been destroyed?
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Old February 19th, 2013, 05:53 PM
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

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Congratulations Dok on the first SOV approved creation!

Here's a question that I hope I didn't miss the answer to elsewhere:
Does Zombie Rises Again stop working after the last Zombie Hulk is destroyed? My intuition goes both ways on this. My first intuition is that powers on cards don't work unless the (or at least one) figure is still alive, a la Marcus Decimus Gallus's Soldier Leadership; unless an exception is specified on the card a la Thanos' Rejected By Death. My second intuition, however, is that if this were the case it would be useless to draft only one copy of the Zombie Hulk. Maybe both my intuitions are correct and I'm overthinking it . . .
The ZH card says "any Undead Savage..." so your destroyed ZH(s) can come back into play.
I realize that the FAQ for this unit clarifies that this is indeed correct...but is this the right explanation? Marcus says all soldiers receive +1 move, but this ability is not applicable if Marcus has been destroyed. What in the Zombie Hulk's wording differentiates 'Zombie Rises Again' so that the ability is still active even when the card has been destroyed?
I would assume it will still be okay. My thinking if a zombie "bites" a large figure it would just come back as a large zombie, as if it were to happen in real life
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

If a zombie hulk kills a small/medium figure, do you place a zombie of morindan there? I don't see it on the card, but is/was there any intent on that happening? It just makes sense to me because they would get "infected"
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

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If a zombie hulk kills a small/medium figure, do you place a zombie of morindan there? I don't see it on the card, but is/was there any intent on that happening? It just makes sense to me because they would get "infected"
It's a reasonable house rule, of course, but no, that isn't how it normally works.
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

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If a zombie hulk kills a small/medium figure, do you place a zombie of morindan there? I don't see it on the card, but is/was there any intent on that happening? It just makes sense to me because they would get "infected"
It's a reasonable house rule, of course, but no, that isn't how it normally works.
Thanks doc! I figured as much. I'm not sure how involved you were in ZH creation, but did that ever cross their minds to include a power to do that? Being a zombie, it's basically just begging to have the power to do that
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Old April 12th, 2013, 06:19 PM
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If a zombie hulk kills a small/medium figure, do you place a zombie of morindan there? I don't see it on the card, but is/was there any intent on that happening? It just makes sense to me because they would get "infected"
It's a reasonable house rule, of course, but no, that isn't how it normally works.
Thanks doc! I figured as much. I'm not sure how involved you were in ZH creation, but did that ever cross their minds to include a power to do that? Being a zombie, it's basically just begging to have the power to do that


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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

No, just revised.

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Old April 12th, 2013, 06:56 PM
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

Yes, the original design was Good Pig's. I re-worked it and then it got nominated for SoV (not sure by who, but not GP or myself).

EDIT: Trianx did the nominating. And here's Good Pig's original. There's some significant changes, obviously, but by no means was the idea originally mine.

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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

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Old April 12th, 2013, 09:53 PM
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Nothing to be embarrassed about. People tend to call it my design more often than they call it Good Pig's, probably just because I post more than he does. It's definitely shared credit (credit is shared in the SoV display thread) but it's also more him than me IMO.
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

I played the Zombie Hulks for the first time today. My build was:

300 Zombies of Morindan x5
120 Zombie Hulk x2
30 Guilty McCreech
450

It's not the strongest build by any means, but the Z-Hulks bring a lot of strategy to the table. When revealing an OM on an unengaged Hulk, you get to move 6 Zombies plus that Hulk! I only ever put my Order Marker 1 on a Zombie Hulk, if I knew my opponent would have to disengage to reach them. The Hulks proved particularly effective at helping destroy Raelin. I had one Hulk behind a Zombie screen, then that Hulk rushed out to engage Raelin. On turn 2, my Zombies were able to attack a 2-defense Raelin.

The Krav, Q9, or another big ranged squad probably helps a Zombie army more than a couple Hulks. But I found they were effective and I still need to learn how to counter them using a melee army.
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Re: The Book of the Zombie Hulk

The Zombie Hulk offers synergy to other Zombie Hulks thorough Horde Shriek. Just a suggestion, should that be listed under the Synergy Offered and/or Synergy Received sections?

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